Well, then you disagree with Jesus who stated in Matt. 24:14 that THEN THE END WILL COME (70th week). And we see in the 70th week that the Angel preaches the Gospel, AND the Two-witnesses testify, AND the Saints are Martyred, yu disagree because it proves the Church is not in the earth at that time, and your understanding is ALL IMPORTANT, like all of us men, we tend to have that spirit of competitiveness. I was the same way until about 5 years ago when I prayed to God, "Father, why was I called to Prophecy/Preaching, and for 30 years now I still see the same thing, 100s of different understandings of Babylon, the 144,000, the Harlot, the Rapture, the Seven-Headed Beast etc. etc., why are we not all seeing the SAME TRUTH, because there is only ONE TRUTH Lord? And I got this, "You guys already know everything Ron." !! I knew then what the problem was, we as young Christians see these boos of Daniel, Revelation, Ezekiel etc. as being over our heads, so we read other MENS BOOKS, and we cling thus to Men's Traditions, and we never simply ASK God like we did whilst reading the Gospels, where we got instant answers from God (LOL). So, I forgot all ad reread all of those books, and simply asked God to show me, and He did, of course, the Holy Spirit leads us unto all truth, not other men. The Pharisees had the same problem, Jesus told them as much, that they could not see him in the scriptures, because they relied on Men's Traditions, and not the word of God, which wrote about him.
Mark 13, as I pointed out, is about the Disciples coming deaths, it is not about the 70th week. Matt. 24:1-14 has nothing to do with the 70th week either, that is another misconception. Verses 4-6 are about 70 AD and verses 7-14 are about the Church Age.
Most people will make their decisions before the Wrath starts, but the Anti-Christ GOES FORTH Conquering on the exact same day that Gods Wrath starts, he uses the chaos as a cloak to hide his intentions, while the world is dealing with the Rev. 8 asteroid strike (God's Wrath) he Conquers Israel and the whole Mediterranean Sea Region (THE MANY), he doesn't just Conquer Israel, we can see who all he conquers in Dan. 11:40-43, and we can also see that he is not allowed to conquer Moab, Ammon, and Edom, or Central and Southern Jordan (Think the Petra & Bozrah area where the Jews flee unto). So, the real tests only come AFTER God's Wrath has started. The TIMING of these things is very important and hard to understand tbh.
God Bless.
Mark 13, as I pointed out, is about the Disciples coming deaths, it is not about the 70th week. Matt. 24:1-14 has nothing to do with the 70th week either, that is another misconception. Verses 4-6 are about 70 AD and verses 7-14 are about the Church Age.
Most people will make their decisions before the Wrath starts, but the Anti-Christ GOES FORTH Conquering on the exact same day that Gods Wrath starts, he uses the chaos as a cloak to hide his intentions, while the world is dealing with the Rev. 8 asteroid strike (God's Wrath) he Conquers Israel and the whole Mediterranean Sea Region (THE MANY), he doesn't just Conquer Israel, we can see who all he conquers in Dan. 11:40-43, and we can also see that he is not allowed to conquer Moab, Ammon, and Edom, or Central and Southern Jordan (Think the Petra & Bozrah area where the Jews flee unto). So, the real tests only come AFTER God's Wrath has started. The TIMING of these things is very important and hard to understand tbh.
God Bless.
I don’t believe in the pre wrath rapture because I studied books about it. A pastor at the church I belonged too was teaching the pre trib rapture because he said that everyone wanted it..but he thought the rapture came at the end..but since people didn’t want to hear about it he didn’t teach it. Which I thought it was a shame because even though I didn’t know much except the pre trib postition..it didn’t seem right. Years later, I came across the pre wrath position and studied the Bible about it. The one part that really stops me believing it is that Jesus comes back once. You can’t have a pre trib rapture then.
Mark 13, Matthew 24 and Luke 21 all deal with the end times...
Matthew 24 starts out telling us its end times talk...
Matthew 24:3
As He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”
As He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”
God’s wrath doesn’t start at the beginning of the tribulation but the end at the opening of the 7th seal. The antichrist has already been a factor and has stopped the sacrifice of the rebuilt Jewish temple. The tests came before God’s wrath not after.
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