Is it enough to just believe in Jesus?

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Mem

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There are family names such as Jonson, Michaelson, or Adamson which people come to understand those attached to them as belonging to the family lineage of Jon, Michael, and Adam. I've yet to meet anyone of the Godsons but having heard of it, it generates a wonder how they've managed to obtain that surname. Anyway, in these cases, believing in the son implies a belief in the father, i.e. one might receive the son, who might "come calling" at their door, in his father's name, especially if he greets the answer to his knock, "Father sent me."
 
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Sure, maybe whittled down to the ones most idiocentric to your posts. I was a Thieme taper several decades ago and have copies of many of his written doctrines. It took a while for me to translate his teachings into everyday language.
Me too, about 1977 in TX. I learned but tired of him translating from the KJV to modern English and then from Greek when the need seemed negligible, which made the tapes longer than they needed to be IMO.

Whittling on CC posts might be too tedious, but I will add the acronym list to the website introduction,
(so thanks for that feedback/input :^)
 

Wansvic

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Or must you believe on his name? I read the KJV and have trouble with this. At the end of the Gospel According to John it says that the signs written about are there so that you might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you might have life through his name. The reading can be tricky unless I'm just being very careful about it, but it seems along with what is written about in John 3 it might be necessary to believe on his name, ie. it's not enough to just believe in Jesus. I think this is important. I also think this subject is important for recognizing that the KJV is the Holy Bible to be read as it's the most reasonable (the standard red letter edition, in my opinion) and if you believed through another Bible you might not actually be believing on his name since something could be changed.
John 20:31 states those who believe in Jesus MIGHT have life through his name. Many believe in Jesus. yet have not had their sins remitted. Scripture reveals sins are remitted upon belief and obedience to God's command of water baptism administered in the name of Jesus.

Those who believe in Jesus and His lifegiving sacrifice repent and submit to water baptism in the name of Jesus for remission of their sin. (Acts 2:38-42) The connection between the name of Jesus and remission of one's sins is found in the Acts 10 account as well:

"To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins...
Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days." Acts 10:43, 47-48


The account of Apostle Paul's water baptism confirms the same:
"And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord." Acts 22:16


The biblical record is explicit concerning the NT water baptism. Apostles administered water baptism in only one way; in the name of Jesus. This is because it was Jesus who was crucified for all mankind. And the spiritual reality of being buried with Him takes place in obedience to God's water baptism command. (Acts 2:4-41, 8:12-18, 9:17-18, 10:43-48, 19:1-7, 22:16, Rom. 6:3-6, Col. 2:12)
 
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John 20:31 states those who believe in Jesus MIGHT have life through his name. Many believe in Jesus. yet have not had their sins remitted. Scripture reveals sins are remitted upon belief and obedience to God's command of water baptism administered in the name of Jesus.
Not according to Jesus Himself. He said:

“"Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life.” (Joh 6:47 NKJV)

Not: "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life once he submits to baptism.

Those who believe in Jesus and His lifegiving sacrifice repent and submit to water baptism in the name of Jesus for remission of their sin. (Acts 2:38-42) The connection between the name of Jesus and remission of one's sins is found in the Acts 10 account as well:

"To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins...
Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days." Acts 10:43, 47-48
So you seem to be saying that these people had received the Holy Spirit as the apostles had, yet they hadn't had their sins forgiven. To me, the words are clear; they believed, then were baptized as the sign of Christ having forgiven and saved them.


The account of Apostle Paul's water baptism confirms the same:
"And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord." Acts 22:16
Paul certainly didn't mean that we can wash our sins away with water. The bible is clear that it is the blood of Jesus Christ that removes sin.



The biblical record is explicit concerning the NT water baptism. Apostles administered water baptism in only one way; in the name of Jesus. This is because it was Jesus who was crucified for all mankind. And the spiritual reality of being buried with Him takes place in obedience to God's water baptism command. (Acts 2:4-41, 8:12-18, 9:17-18, 10:43-48, 19:1-7, 22:16, Rom. 6:3-6, Col. 2:12)
Yes, once we are Christians we should follow our Saviour and be baptized.
 

Sipsey

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Me too, about 1977 in TX. I learned but tired of him translating from the KJV to modern English and then from Greek when the need seemed negligible, which made the tapes longer than they needed to be IMO.

Whittling on CC posts might be too tedious, but I will add the acronym list to the website introduction,
(so thanks for that feedback/input :^)
It was the 80’s when a friend introduced me to his tapes. I was working a factory job that allowed me to use earphones during my shift. His earlier tapes were my favorite. I spent a couple of years in a study taught by a co-worker that had read through the Bible 12 times at that point. He had gone to seminary to learn Greek and Hebrew. He opened up a world of study aids. It’s easy enough to understand, the application in everyday life is where the challenge lies.
 
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It was the 80’s when a friend introduced me to his tapes. I was working a factory job that allowed me to use earphones during my shift. His earlier tapes were my favorite. I spent a couple of years in a study taught by a co-worker that had read through the Bible 12 times at that point. He had gone to seminary to learn Greek and Hebrew. He opened up a world of study aids. It’s easy enough to understand, the application in everyday life is where the challenge lies.
Yes, and harmonizing disparate teachings, as the long thread about Understanding God's Election illustrates.
 
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Or must you believe on his name? I read the KJV and have trouble with this. At the end of the Gospel According to John it says that the signs written about are there so that you might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you might have life through his name. The reading can be tricky unless I'm just being very careful about it, but it seems along with what is written about in John 3 it might be necessary to believe on his name, ie. it's not enough to just believe in Jesus. I think this is important. I also think this subject is important for recognizing that the KJV is the Holy Bible to be read as it's the most reasonable (the standard red letter edition, in my opinion) and if you believed through another Bible you might not actually be believing on his name since something could be changed.
either that is the dumbest question posted here in quite awhile, OR, you are pfishing and trying to stir the pot