Is it enough to just believe in Jesus?

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Or must you believe on his name? I read the KJV and have trouble with this. At the end of the Gospel According to John it says that the signs written about are there so that you might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you might have life through his name. The reading can be tricky unless I'm just being very careful about it, but it seems along with what is written about in John 3 it might be necessary to believe on his name, ie. it's not enough to just believe in Jesus. I think this is important. I also think this subject is important for recognizing that the KJV is the Holy Bible to be read as it's the most reasonable (the standard red letter edition, in my opinion) and if you believed through another Bible you might not actually be believing on his name since something could be changed.
 
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Or must you believe on his name? I read the KJV and have trouble with this. At the end of the Gospel According to John it says that the signs written about are there so that you might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you might have life through his name. The reading can be tricky unless I'm just being very careful about it, but it seems along with what is written about in John 3 it might be necessary to believe on his name, ie. it's not enough to just believe in Jesus. I think this is important. I also think this subject is important for recognizing that the KJV is the Holy Bible to be read as it's the most reasonable (the standard red letter edition, in my opinion) and if you believed through another Bible you might not actually be believing on his name since something could be changed.
Believing in Jesus is synonymous with believing on his name. The way to believe in God is by directing our lives towards being in His likeness through being a doer of His character traits. For example, by being a doer of good works in obedience to God's law we testifying about His goodness, which is why our good works bring glory to Him (Matthew 5:16), and by testifying about God's goodness we are also expressing the belief that God is good, or in other words we are believing in Him. Likewise, the way to believe that God is a doer of justice is by directing our lives towards being in His likeness through being a doer of justice in obedience to Him, the way to believe that God is holy is by being a doer of His instructions for how to be holy as He is holy, and so forth. This is exactly the same as the way to believe in the Son, who is the radiance of God's glory and the exact likeness of His character.

This is why there are many verses that connect our belief in God with our obedience to Him, such as Revelation 14:12, those who kept faith in Jesus are the same as those who kept God's commandments. Likewise, the reason why there are many verses that say that the way to have eternal life is by believing in Jesus and many verses that the way to have eternal life is by obeying God's commandments is because God's commandments are His instructions for how to believe in Jesus, or in there words, obeying God's word is the way to believe in God's word made flesh. In addition, the names of God all reveal aspects of His character, so the way to believe on the name of Jesus is also by being in his likeness through being a doer of His character traits in accordance with the example of obedience to God's law that he set for us to follow.
 
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You believe in Jesus Christ. Have you confessed your sins and asked Jesus To come into your heart and be your personal savior. Get the water baptism.
You then need seek God, for the holy spirit. Which can be given to you by the laying on of hands by another person.
Being with Jesus Christ, is a fight for your life, your soul. The moment you accept Jesus Christ, is the moment the devil comes against you.

Even before the water baptism and holy spirit is given you, you will have all demonion, power and authority over all of the enemy.
 
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Or must you believe on his name? I read the KJV and have trouble with this. At the end of the Gospel According to John it says that the signs written about are there so that you might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you might have life through his name. The reading can be tricky unless I'm just being very careful about it, but it seems along with what is written about in John 3 it might be necessary to believe on his name, ie. it's not enough to just believe in Jesus. I think this is important. I also think this subject is important for recognizing that the KJV is the Holy Bible to be read as it's the most reasonable (the standard red letter edition, in my opinion) and if you believed through another Bible you might not actually be believing on his name since something could be changed.
To "believe on His name" is to believe that He is God, Lord, and Saviour through His atoning death on the cross. While we don't start out our Christian walk understanding all this, we should eventually get there. God in His grace holds us redeemed prior to our full understanding while He teaches and admonishes us toward it.

I know you're a fan of the KJV, but you might consider reading the relevant verses in a modern version or three to get a better sense of the meaning.
 
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To "believe on His name" is to believe that He is God, Lord, and Saviour through His atoning death on the cross. While we don't start out our Christian walk understanding all this, we should eventually get there. God in His grace holds us redeemed prior to our full understanding while He teaches and admonishes us toward it.

I know you're a fan of the KJV, but you might consider reading the relevant verses in a modern version or three to get a better sense of the meaning.
Do you think the Gospel According to John lays it out succinctly? I find my sister says that you need to "receive Jesus" and maybe other things, other people saying similar things possibly (I think these sayings might be popular in the "church"), while in the Gospel According to John it's believe on his name.

Thanks for the suggestion. I am just wary because I know how easily his name could be changed if someone changed the language. Like I think a minor alteration could indeed change things if someone wasn't careful, and there already seems to be a slant against the language. It's just a fear I have. I think the language in the KJV is very succinct.
 
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While it is good to be concerned about what it takes to be saved, it was never meant to be a difficult thing to do... I believe you are way overthinking it.
Read the accounts of conversions in the New Testament.
A person has to hear about Jesus and his sacrifice for all mankind, and believe in him. When you are convicted in your heart that you need Jesus in your life, make the decision to turn away from the "old" life... publicly confess that you believe in Jesus, be baptized (immersed in water) for forgiveness of sins, and start your new life in the body of believers.... when you are baptized, you will receive the indwelling Holy Spirit, as Jesus promised.
 

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While it is good to be concerned about what it takes to be saved, it was never meant to be a difficult thing to do... I believe you are way overthinking it.
Read the accounts of conversions in the New Testament.
A person has to hear about Jesus and his sacrifice for all mankind, and believe in him. When you are convicted in your heart that you need Jesus in your life, make the decision to turn away from the "old" life... publicly confess that you believe in Jesus, be baptized (immersed in water) for forgiveness of sins, and start your new life in the body of believers.... when you are baptized, you will receive the indwelling Holy Spirit, as Jesus promised.
Exactly. Very simple. This is how it always was.

As to the question of the OP, there are lots of people who believe in Jesus, or claim to do so, but are lost, for example most here would say mormons and jehovah's witnesses arent saved, despite believing in Jesus.
 
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To "believe on His name" is to believe that He is God, Lord, and Saviour through His atoning death on the cross. While we don't start out our Christian walk understanding all this, we should eventually get there. God in His grace holds us redeemed prior to our full understanding while He teaches and admonishes us toward it.

I know you're a fan of the KJV, but you might consider reading the relevant verses in a modern version or three to get a better sense of the meaning.
Yes, and believing in Jesus as Lord means wanting to cooperate with His will (JN 14:23),
which is taught in GW by the HS (JN 16:12-15), so saints will have hunger for learning GW (MT 4:4)
and behaving righteously like Christ, loving even enemies (MT 5:6&44).
 
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While it is good to be concerned about what it takes to be saved, it was never meant to be a difficult thing to do... I believe you are way overthinking it.
Read the accounts of conversions in the New Testament.
A person has to hear about Jesus and his sacrifice for all mankind, and believe in him. When you are convicted in your heart that you need Jesus in your life, make the decision to turn away from the "old" life... publicly confess that you believe in Jesus, be baptized (immersed in water) for forgiveness of sins, and start your new life in the body of believers.... when you are baptized, you will receive the indwelling Holy Spirit, as Jesus promised.
Yes, salvation is simple enough for a young soul to do by believing the Gospel (MT 19:14),
and for a saint to continue to do/believe (persevering) as more of GW is learned beyond the Gospel (MT 11:28-30).
 

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Or must you believe on his name? I read the KJV and have trouble with this. At the end of the Gospel According to John it says that the signs written about are there so that you might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you might have life through his name. The reading can be tricky unless I'm just being very careful about it, but it seems along with what is written about in John 3 it might be necessary to believe on his name, ie. it's not enough to just believe in Jesus. I think this is important. I also think this subject is important for recognizing that the KJV is the Holy Bible to be read as it's the most reasonable (the standard red letter edition, in my opinion) and if you believed through another Bible you might not actually be believing on his name since something could be changed.
To “believe on His name” means more than just acknowledging that Jesus exists or that He was a historical figure. In biblical terms, believing means trusting in, relying on, and committing oneself to Him as Lord and Savior.

In Hebrew culture, a name represented a person’s character, authority, and mission. When Scripture calls people to believe on “His name,” it means trusting in who Jesus is—the Son of God, the Messiah, and the only source of salvation.

For example, John 1:12 says:
“But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name.”
This verse links believing in Jesus’ name to receiving Him personally and becoming part of God’s family.


Acts 4:12 reinforces this truth:
“Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”
To believe on His name is to entrust your salvation to Jesus alone, rejecting self-righteousness, works-based salvation, or other means.


True belief in His name isn’t just words; it results in a transformed life. Jesus Himself said in John 14:15,
“If you love Me, keep My commandments.”
Faith that saves is always accompanied by obedience, love, and a desire to follow Christ.


1 John 5:13 affirms that believing in His name gives us assurance of eternal life:
“These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.”

Conclusion

To “believe on His name” means to fully trust in Jesus’ identity, authority, and redemptive work. It’s not just an intellectual belief but a personal, life-changing faith that leads to salvation, transformation, and eternal life.
 
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Or must you believe on his name? I read the KJV and have trouble with this. At the end of the Gospel According to John it says that the signs written about are there so that you might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you might have life through his name. The reading can be tricky unless I'm just being very careful about it, but it seems along with what is written about in John 3 it might be necessary to believe on his name, ie. it's not enough to just believe in Jesus. I think this is important. I also think this subject is important for recognizing that the KJV is the Holy Bible to be read as it's the most reasonable (the standard red letter edition, in my opinion) and if you believed through another Bible you might not actually be believing on his name since something could be changed.
When we read about the name of Jesus, or the name of God in the bible, it means far more than the label by which they are known. It means their whole character and being. For example, we read in Acts:

“"If we this day are judged for a good deed done to a helpless man, by what means he has been made well, "let it be known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by Him this man stands here before you whole. "This is the ‘stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.’ "Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."” (Ac 4:9-12 NKJV)

Those verses certainly don't mean that the man was healed by either he or the apostles repeating the name "Jesus," or that we are saved by using the name "Jesus" like a magic spell.
 
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Re: Is it enough to just believe in Jesus?

I would say NO because there are a number of believers mentioned in Matt
7:22-23 that Jesus is on track to reject for the simple reason that he and
they weren't chummy.

FAQ: Did Jesus ever instruct anyone to pray to himself?

REPLY: Yes.

Matt 11:28-29 . . Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I
will give you rest.

John 4:10-14 . .If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for
a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you living
water.

John 7:37 . . On the last and greatest day of the Feast, Jesus stood and
said in a loud voice; "If anyone is thirsty, let him come to me and drink."

When Jesus says "come" and/or "ask" he expects his audiences to
reciprocate with an RSVP.

John 5:39 . . .You diligently study the scriptures because you think that by
them you possess eternal life. These are the scriptures that testify about
me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life.

NOTE: Prayer can be thought of as rapport: defined as a friendly relationship
marked by ready communication and mutual understanding. It remains a
mystery to me how it happens that card-carrying Christians like those
described by Matt 7:22-23 fail to initiate an intimate, one-on-one, personal
association with the one man in Christianity that matters most.
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I am just wary because I know how easily his name could be changed if someone changed the language.
The name of Jesus is neither spelled nor pronounced, in other languages, the same as we do it in English.
Therefore it CANNOT BE that those 5 English letters are the meaning of the text, and are of any eternal consequence.

It isn't a matter of 5 English letters, it is a matter of knowing the MEANING BEHIND those letters.
Here's a common example of how language works:
If you are talking about your wife, and you call her by her "first name", or call her your "significant other", or your "better half", or your "spouse"... all of those refer to the same person. You can use different words to refer to the same person. The issue is not which word you use for your wife, but that you KNOW SHE IS YOUR WIFE, and that you LOVE HER.

CONCLUSION:
- Many good Christians in this thread have already explained that to believe in the "name of Jesus" means to believe in the "person of Jesus"... to understand who and what he is.
- Let's not make a simple thing overly complicated.

God Bless.
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Or must you believe on his name? I read the KJV and have trouble with this. At the end of the Gospel According to John it says that the signs written about are there so that you might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you might have life through his name. The reading can be tricky unless I'm just being very careful about it, but it seems along with what is written about in John 3 it might be necessary to believe on his name, ie. it's not enough to just believe in Jesus. I think this is important. I also think this subject is important for recognizing that the KJV is the Holy Bible to be read as it's the most reasonable (the standard red letter edition, in my opinion) and if you believed through another Bible you might not actually be believing on his name since something could be changed.
God, in as the Holy Spirit is like the wind and goes wherever no one else knows and leaves from there and goes elsewhere to do what? (John 3)
Gives new life in his risen Son to each person Father chooses to do, as Daddy, knows who are who and what is what forever in each person. Knows, everyone's motive to believing God in Son for them or not? Whether or not anyone is sincere or not. Then gives accordingly, after one does not give up on believing God in Son for them, risen for them.
Therefore, it is not up to me to tell you to believe or else attitudes of the flesh nature out in this world presently. "You" in and "You" out attitudes of people in religion. God saves, does this for us through Son's done work, making us all as if never sinned (Col. 1) by Son taking on the entire sin of the entire world once, it is done (John 19:30), the sin began at the first Adam. Christ the second Adam, that never sinned (A life giving spirit), against Father as all others have and might still do even if in belief, that be between God and each person personally first, getting their own salvation worked out between God and themselves each also, Not of any religion, to me at least! I see this presently and did not always as I was being made mature in Father and Son as Won as toy are too being made new too, thanking Father over it all for me at least
 
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What is the "GW" you keep referencing? Is it "God's word" ?

I'm trying to keep up, but all the acronyms get confusing....
Of course! That acronym should be common on a Christian chat forum,
along with OT, NT HS and JC and the bible book abbreviations.
I also find POS (plan of salvation) and GRFS (God's requirement for salvation) to be quite handy
when discussing the Gospel kerygma--and LIC (Love in Christ) is nice.
TTYL, HAND :^)
 

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Of course! That acronym should be common on a Christian chat forum,
along with OT, NT HS and JC and the bible book abbreviations.
I also find POS (plan of salvation) and GRFS (God's requirement for salvation) to be quite handy
when discussing the Gospel kerygma--and LIC (Love in Christ) is nice.
TTYL, HAND :^)
Maybe post these acronyms as a “post script” attached to the bottom of your post, so new readers won’t be thrown off.
 
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Maybe post these acronyms as a “post script” attached to the bottom of your post, so new readers won’t be thrown off.
I guess I could do that. Do you mean like this?:

Acronyms: GW = God's Word )Scripture), OT = Old Testament (Covenant), NT = New Testament, GN, EX, LV, NM, DT;MT, MK, ACTS, RM,
1CR, etc. = bible books, LGW = learn/ing GW (persevering), HS = Holy Spirit, JC = Jesus Christ (or Christ Jesus), TOJ = teachings of Jesus,
TOP = teachings of Paul (& Peter), POS = plan of salvation, GRFS = God's requirement for salvation, MFW = moral free will (volition),
KOTH = king of the hill (struggle), PP = propensity principle (logical reasons to believe in God), UMI = universal moral imperative (God's will), DOD = duo of desirables (heaven & hell), TULIP = God forces some sinners to do His will, KOG/H = kingdom of God/heaven, SOP = God's standard (normative) operating procedure, RC = Roman Catholicism, RE/BE = Roman/Byzantine empire or emperor, EP = evangelical protestant, LIC = Love in Christ.
 

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I guess I could do that. Do you mean like this?:

Acronyms: GW = God's Word )Scripture), OT = Old Testament (Covenant), NT = New Testament, GN, EX, LV, NM, DT;MT, MK, ACTS, RM,
1CR, etc. = bible books, LGW = learn/ing GW (persevering), HS = Holy Spirit, JC = Jesus Christ (or Christ Jesus), TOJ = teachings of Jesus,
TOP = teachings of Paul (& Peter), POS = plan of salvation, GRFS = God's requirement for salvation, MFW = moral free will (volition),
KOTH = king of the hill (struggle), PP = propensity principle (logical reasons to believe in God), UMI = universal moral imperative (God's will), DOD = duo of desirables (heaven & hell), TULIP = God forces some sinners to do His will, KOG/H = kingdom of God/heaven, SOP = God's standard (normative) operating procedure, RC = Roman Catholicism, RE/BE = Roman/Byzantine empire or emperor, EP = evangelical protestant, LIC = Love in Christ.
Sure, maybe whittled down to the ones most idiocentric to your posts. I was a Thieme taper several decades ago and have copies of many of his written doctrines. It took a while for me to translate his teachings into everyday language.