Is Christmas paganism?
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let me jump in here. shamah is Hebrew roots. a quick explanation of that= they think one has to keep the Law of Moses to be saved. they reject salvation by faith in Christ alone. they think Jesus was crucified on wed, and rose on the Sabbath, so one MUST keep the twilight fri. to twilight sat. Sabbath. they reject Christmas and Easter in favor of keeping the O.T. festivals of Isreal.
hope this sheds some light on things.
hope this sheds some light on things.
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I would so like my family to live as God shows us how to live. I would like our celebrations to be the ones that God gave us and showed us the way to truly celebrate them.
I am sure that there are some Christmas celebrations done in the spirit of the Lord.
The Christmas celebration in my family is around a dinner served with very expensive Christmas tableware. There is lots of whispered gossip and old resentments are relived. There is much competition and power struggle. The prayer is long and poetic, but the spirit of the Lord is missing.
I am sure that there are some Christmas celebrations done in the spirit of the Lord.
The Christmas celebration in my family is around a dinner served with very expensive Christmas tableware. There is lots of whispered gossip and old resentments are relived. There is much competition and power struggle. The prayer is long and poetic, but the spirit of the Lord is missing.
The Plain Truth About Christmas by David J. Stewart - After Nimrod's death, his so-called mother-wife, Semiramis, propagated the evil doctrine of the survival of Nimrod as a spirit being. She claimed a full-grown evergreen tree sprang overnight from a dead tree stump, which symbolized the springing forth unto new life of the dead Nimrod. On each anniversary of his birth, she claimed, Nimrod would visit the evergreen tree and leave gifts upon it. December 25th, was the birthday of Nimrod. This is the real origin of the Christmas tree."
This is from ancient Babylon and shows the rites described above...
This is from ancient Babylon and shows the rites described above...
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This could be right if not for all the warning about being deceived.
The one thing about being deceived that is universal is that those who are in this condition are convinced they are not.
I would argue that there is only One power that can free us from deception of the prince of this world. But first one must "Believe" in Him and that means believing in His Words.
"Man does not live by bread alone, but by every word which proceeds from the Mouth of God".
But what if the Word of God's instructions are contrary to religious traditions our family has been partaking of for centuries? Like Christmas?
Luke 12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
Just try and be truthful regarding the man made tradition of Christmas and see how you are treated by your "Brothers and sisters.
You want to see the division the Christ brings, just separate yourself from religious traditions of man and stick to His Word's and watch the scriptures come alive.
I think Eve was the first example of folks following their own mind when it comes to what is Holy and Good and what is not. By the Grace of God I have learned to defer to the judgment of God where Holy Days are concerned, not my own emotion or vision. I highly recommend relying on the Word of God over the traditions of man. It may not be the most popular move, but the freedom is worth it in this life. And I'm quite sure the Messiah won't be angry if I don't partake of a High Day created by man.
The one thing about being deceived that is universal is that those who are in this condition are convinced they are not.
I would argue that there is only One power that can free us from deception of the prince of this world. But first one must "Believe" in Him and that means believing in His Words.
"Man does not live by bread alone, but by every word which proceeds from the Mouth of God".
But what if the Word of God's instructions are contrary to religious traditions our family has been partaking of for centuries? Like Christmas?
Luke 12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
Just try and be truthful regarding the man made tradition of Christmas and see how you are treated by your "Brothers and sisters.
You want to see the division the Christ brings, just separate yourself from religious traditions of man and stick to His Word's and watch the scriptures come alive.
I think Eve was the first example of folks following their own mind when it comes to what is Holy and Good and what is not. By the Grace of God I have learned to defer to the judgment of God where Holy Days are concerned, not my own emotion or vision. I highly recommend relying on the Word of God over the traditions of man. It may not be the most popular move, but the freedom is worth it in this life. And I'm quite sure the Messiah won't be angry if I don't partake of a High Day created by man.
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Well you can either provide my words saying what you claim or can not. If you can not you have made false witness.
What other believe and do has no bearing on what I believe and do. A similar doctrine ere or there does not make me guilty of others errors. Im sure we can find a single doctrine the we both believe that Mormons believe, does that then make both of us guilty of their many errors?
What other believe and do has no bearing on what I believe and do. A similar doctrine ere or there does not make me guilty of others errors. Im sure we can find a single doctrine the we both believe that Mormons believe, does that then make both of us guilty of their many errors?
so, the catholic church overlaid the pagan solstice celebration with celebrating the birth of Christ ( yes, I know most of the scholars you do not trust say Jesus was born sometime in this month), and then overlaid a fertility festival with celebrating the Resurrection , is a bad thing.
while the catholics did a lot of bad things, these were not bad things. unless you think law keeping saves, and then these would not mean much.
oh yeah, you mocked the idea of salvation by belief in Christ alone. ' cry me a river........ remember? I do. God does.
while the catholics did a lot of bad things, these were not bad things. unless you think law keeping saves, and then these would not mean much.
oh yeah, you mocked the idea of salvation by belief in Christ alone. ' cry me a river........ remember? I do. God does.
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as I said, anyone can look up Hebrew roots , look back through your posts, and see if there is a match.
but. on a personal note, this makes me angry and sad. the world is getting more evil and satanic by the hour, the anti- Christ is getting closer, and the new world order is taking more and more control, and we fight over stupid stuff. because folks like you will not accept salvation by Grace and Faith.. in Christ.
this is not a game and not funny. you and needs to studyman chose to attack us who push Christ alone for salvation, we should stand together against the evil new world order, preach Christ , Lord and Savior, but, you and others would rather attack celebrating His birth and , most important , His Resurrection .
but. on a personal note, this makes me angry and sad. the world is getting more evil and satanic by the hour, the anti- Christ is getting closer, and the new world order is taking more and more control, and we fight over stupid stuff. because folks like you will not accept salvation by Grace and Faith.. in Christ.
this is not a game and not funny. you and needs to studyman chose to attack us who push Christ alone for salvation, we should stand together against the evil new world order, preach Christ , Lord and Savior, but, you and others would rather attack celebrating His birth and , most important , His Resurrection .
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ohh imagianry attack huh? Or is speaking against sin and pagan practice attacks? Let me guess saying we should all listen to what the Messiah says and act accoprdingly is works?
We should all do the will of the Most High if we name the Messiah... That inclusdes every word not just the ones that are easy.
We should all do the will of the Most High if we name the Messiah... That inclusdes every word not just the ones that are easy.
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Thank you, he is making false witness, he can not provide proof but he thinks people will read that and think he is being honest.
Psalms 31:3-6, "For You are my rock and my stronghold; For Your Name’s sake lead me and guide me. Bring me out of the net which they have hidden for me, For You are my stronghold. Into Your hand I commit my spirit; You have redeemed me, O יהוה Ěl of truth. I have hated those who observe lying vanities; But I trust in יהוה."
Psalms 31:3-6, "For You are my rock and my stronghold; For Your Name’s sake lead me and guide me. Bring me out of the net which they have hidden for me, For You are my stronghold. Into Your hand I commit my spirit; You have redeemed me, O יהוה Ěl of truth. I have hated those who observe lying vanities; But I trust in יהוה."
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