In your opinion do you believe world is about 6000 years old
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False. Mary definitely gave permission. Free will is THE primary mandate that God bequeathed to man.
The fundamental lie of Satan is that God is evil because this free will does not exist.
Luk 1:38
And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.
In fact this lie was likely the reason that 1/3 of the Angels rebelled, as Satan deceived them, the same why he deceived the woman.
BTW.....Adam was NOT DECEIVED, yet ate the fruit anyways. Which is why he is the primordial "type of Christ".
The fundamental lie of Satan is that God is evil because this free will does not exist.
Luk 1:38
And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.
In fact this lie was likely the reason that 1/3 of the Angels rebelled, as Satan deceived them, the same why he deceived the woman.
BTW.....Adam was NOT DECEIVED, yet ate the fruit anyways. Which is why he is the primordial "type of Christ".
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Probably so. Thats what was going on before the flood (and afterwards!).....inappropriate contact between men and angels.
And in ALL HISTORICAL CASES where this was happening, God rendered the most devastating of judgements.
Think Sodom as well. Those wicked men KNEW that the visitors were angelic beings, and desired them ("going after strange flesh") for what amounts to "life extension" purposes.
Similar situation was going on in Judges 19.....with a woman being the object of what? Adenochrome harvesting type of vivisection??? They KNEW what kind of horror took place. Why? Because it had happened in times past and the Israelites remembered it.
IMO.....these rites and practices are happening today. Including contact with fallen angels.
Which means.....judgement is at the very door. I cannot stress that enough.
And in ALL HISTORICAL CASES where this was happening, God rendered the most devastating of judgements.
Think Sodom as well. Those wicked men KNEW that the visitors were angelic beings, and desired them ("going after strange flesh") for what amounts to "life extension" purposes.
Similar situation was going on in Judges 19.....with a woman being the object of what? Adenochrome harvesting type of vivisection??? They KNEW what kind of horror took place. Why? Because it had happened in times past and the Israelites remembered it.
IMO.....these rites and practices are happening today. Including contact with fallen angels.
Which means.....judgement is at the very door. I cannot stress that enough.
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Why not include the whole dialogue?
Luke 1:26-38 (ESV)
26 In the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth, 27 to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David. And the virgin's name was Mary. 28 And he came to her and said, “Greetings, O favored one, the Lord is with you!” 29 But she was greatly troubled at the saying, and tried to discern what sort of greeting this might be. 30 And the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. 31 And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus. 32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. And the Lord God will give to him the throne of his father David, 33 and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of his kingdom there will be no end.”
34 And Mary said to the angel, “How will this be, since I am a virgin?”
35 And the angel answered her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy—the Son of God. 36 And behold, your relative Elizabeth in her old age has also conceived a son, and this is the sixth month with her who was called barren. 37 For nothing will be impossible with God.” 38 And Mary said, “Behold, I am the servant of the Lord; let it be to me according to your word.” And the angel departed from her.
In verse 31, it doesn't really seem to that Gabriel was asking for permission...? Seems more like a statement of fact...
"And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus."
Luke 1:26-38 (ESV)
26 In the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth, 27 to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David. And the virgin's name was Mary. 28 And he came to her and said, “Greetings, O favored one, the Lord is with you!” 29 But she was greatly troubled at the saying, and tried to discern what sort of greeting this might be. 30 And the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. 31 And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus. 32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. And the Lord God will give to him the throne of his father David, 33 and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of his kingdom there will be no end.”
34 And Mary said to the angel, “How will this be, since I am a virgin?”
35 And the angel answered her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy—the Son of God. 36 And behold, your relative Elizabeth in her old age has also conceived a son, and this is the sixth month with her who was called barren. 37 For nothing will be impossible with God.” 38 And Mary said, “Behold, I am the servant of the Lord; let it be to me according to your word.” And the angel departed from her.
In verse 31, it doesn't really seem to that Gabriel was asking for permission...? Seems more like a statement of fact...
"And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus."
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She was told what was going to happen. Yes, she agreed to be be God's servant after she was
told what was going to happen. Her permission in this regard, however, was not sought.
26 In the sixth month, God sent the angel Gabriel to a town in Galilee called Nazareth,
27 to a virgin pledged in marriage to a man named Joseph, who was of the house of David.
And the virgin’s name was Mary. 28 The angel appeared to her and said, “Greetings,
you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you.”
29 Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be.
30 So the angel told her, “Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. 31 Behold,
you will conceive and give birth to a son, and you are to give Him the name Jesus. 32 He
will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give Him the throne of
His father David, 33 and He will reign over the house of Jacob forever. His kingdom will never end!”
34 “How can this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?”
35 The angel replied, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will
overshadow you. So the Holy One to be born will be called the Son of God. 36 Look, even
Elizabeth your relative has conceived a son in her old age, and she who was called barren
is in her sixth month. 37 For no word from God will ever fail.”
38 “I am the Lord’s servant,” Mary answered. “May it happen to me according to your word.” Then the angel left her.
told what was going to happen. Her permission in this regard, however, was not sought.
26 In the sixth month, God sent the angel Gabriel to a town in Galilee called Nazareth,
27 to a virgin pledged in marriage to a man named Joseph, who was of the house of David.
And the virgin’s name was Mary. 28 The angel appeared to her and said, “Greetings,
you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you.”
29 Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be.
30 So the angel told her, “Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. 31 Behold,
you will conceive and give birth to a son, and you are to give Him the name Jesus. 32 He
will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give Him the throne of
His father David, 33 and He will reign over the house of Jacob forever. His kingdom will never end!”
34 “How can this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?”
35 The angel replied, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will
overshadow you. So the Holy One to be born will be called the Son of God. 36 Look, even
Elizabeth your relative has conceived a son in her old age, and she who was called barren
is in her sixth month. 37 For no word from God will ever fail.”
38 “I am the Lord’s servant,” Mary answered. “May it happen to me according to your word.” Then the angel left her.
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I went through this for 10 pages.
However here is the correct translation from the Hebrews bible but first the KJV of 1 Peter 3:10, 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Hebrews translation to English is as follows
The day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night, and the heavens will suddenly pass away and the foundations will burn and melt and the earth and the deeds that were They will burn on it: 11 And now if all these will be consumed, how much more must you go
First thing to note is this hebrews translation says the foundations will melt where as the KJV says the elements.
Second thing to note, if you wish to search other translation, they say the foundation will disintegrate, which is a miss representation.
They will not disintegrate and be no more, they will melt turn to lava and consume the earth. And all the works of the earth.
This means the foundations are an eternal heavenly fire 😋
However here is the correct translation from the Hebrews bible but first the KJV of 1 Peter 3:10, 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Hebrews translation to English is as follows
The day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night, and the heavens will suddenly pass away and the foundations will burn and melt and the earth and the deeds that were They will burn on it: 11 And now if all these will be consumed, how much more must you go
First thing to note is this hebrews translation says the foundations will melt where as the KJV says the elements.
Second thing to note, if you wish to search other translation, they say the foundation will disintegrate, which is a miss representation.
They will not disintegrate and be no more, they will melt turn to lava and consume the earth. And all the works of the earth.
This means the foundations are an eternal heavenly fire 😋
20 Now the man called his wife’s name [h]Eve, because she was the mother of all the living.
He did not say she would be the mother of all the living....
This was before they were driven away from the garden. It makes it sound as if Adam and Eve had already had children. Otherwise, how would they even know about childbirth? Who would Eve have been the mother of? Why would God tell Eve that he was going to greatly multiply her pain in childbirth, if she had never experienced it?
He did not say she would be the mother of all the living....
This was before they were driven away from the garden. It makes it sound as if Adam and Eve had already had children. Otherwise, how would they even know about childbirth? Who would Eve have been the mother of? Why would God tell Eve that he was going to greatly multiply her pain in childbirth, if she had never experienced it?
Of course I don't disagree with them, they are scripture.... what I possibly disagree with is our understanding of that scripture...
all the verses in the New Testament are absolutely true... Eve was the mother of all those living, because from Noah on, there was no chance of anybody else from any other "bloodline" being alive. Adam and Eve were most certainly the creators of the lineage of Adam... no question...
This does not say that they were the only human beings that God created.
all the verses in the New Testament are absolutely true... Eve was the mother of all those living, because from Noah on, there was no chance of anybody else from any other "bloodline" being alive. Adam and Eve were most certainly the creators of the lineage of Adam... no question...
This does not say that they were the only human beings that God created.