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It does very much seem to say in Job 38:4-7 that the angels witnessed the creation of the universe.
"Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? Tell me, if you understand.
Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring
line across it? On what were its footings set, or who laid its cornerstone -
while the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy?"
"Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? Tell me, if you understand.
Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring
line across it? On what were its footings set, or who laid its cornerstone -
while the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy?"
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Days... we know from the word one day to the lord is like a thousand years. So there is no time space when God made all this 
Yes the light before the sun awesome huh We should know there was sin before Adam and Eve. Well Satan had already fallen and hell was prepared/made for Satan and his angels. For God so loved the world... behold the lamb of God that takes away the? SIN of the world.
The truth is there is much here that is not written so speculation will come in to play. As wonderful lol as speculation can be its very unwise to run with it. Space... always wondered why so black? Oh I LOVE the stars. When I was like 15 or so I had a dream. In this dream I see my self with a HUGE smile and as i am looking at my self he/me turns my head to the right looking up. Now I see all these starts and its not black but a deep dark blue. Then from the right to left these angles cross the sky singing.. this is where I lost. ANYONE here ever hear music from heaven? I called the person that ran the bible study to PLEASE pray I want that to happen again.
Oh I prayed begged ...haha still am. There is nothing like it. No music here even comes close. And at that time I never knew angels had wings unit that dream. I know to our Father this like happen just moments ago but to me its been like what 48 years have gone by.. sorry.. this was about space black. Why make so many planets.... is that the 2nd heaven the place where Abraham said he could not cross.. I don't speculation lol
Yes the light before the sun awesome huh We should know there was sin before Adam and Eve. Well Satan had already fallen and hell was prepared/made for Satan and his angels. For God so loved the world... behold the lamb of God that takes away the? SIN of the world.The truth is there is much here that is not written so speculation will come in to play. As wonderful lol as speculation can be its very unwise to run with it. Space... always wondered why so black? Oh I LOVE the stars. When I was like 15 or so I had a dream. In this dream I see my self with a HUGE smile and as i am looking at my self he/me turns my head to the right looking up. Now I see all these starts and its not black but a deep dark blue. Then from the right to left these angles cross the sky singing.. this is where I lost. ANYONE here ever hear music from heaven? I called the person that ran the bible study to PLEASE pray I want that to happen again.
Oh I prayed begged ...haha still am. There is nothing like it. No music here even comes close. And at that time I never knew angels had wings unit that dream. I know to our Father this like happen just moments ago but to me its been like what 48 years have gone by.. sorry.. this was about space black. Why make so many planets.... is that the 2nd heaven the place where Abraham said he could not cross.. I don't speculation lol
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God has only told us what we need to know...
He hasn't made everything be known to us cos our feeble minds are incapable of grasping all His knowledge
Isn't the bible filled with riddles and cryptic hidden messages? They're known as metaphors.
Jesus spoke in parables as well. They can be very cryptic and contain hidden messages too...
Deciding on whether to take it literally or metaphorically is already a speculation in itself...
Job 38 tells us that the angels rejoiced when God laid the foundations of the earth...
Revelation tells us that there was a war in heaven that resulted in the fall of Lucifer...
Im struggling to understand how this war and fall of Lucifer could have all occurred in the space of only 7 days.
And I'm yet to hear a decent explanation for it either... Any suggestions?
He hasn't made everything be known to us cos our feeble minds are incapable of grasping all His knowledge
Isn't the bible filled with riddles and cryptic hidden messages? They're known as metaphors.
Jesus spoke in parables as well. They can be very cryptic and contain hidden messages too...
Deciding on whether to take it literally or metaphorically is already a speculation in itself...
Job 38 tells us that the angels rejoiced when God laid the foundations of the earth...
Revelation tells us that there was a war in heaven that resulted in the fall of Lucifer...
Im struggling to understand how this war and fall of Lucifer could have all occurred in the space of only 7 days.
And I'm yet to hear a decent explanation for it either... Any suggestions?
To be fair, you've missed the discussion which is why your going off track...
Anyhow if your willing to use the metaphor of God's light then logic would follow that darkness is also the metaphor for evil.
God flushes away the evil with his light... Its a theme that is repeated time and time again
All your doing is speculating on what is metaphorical and what is literal. Which is what we all do.
I can see that and admit it... Can u?
Anyhow if your willing to use the metaphor of God's light then logic would follow that darkness is also the metaphor for evil.
God flushes away the evil with his light... Its a theme that is repeated time and time again
All your doing is speculating on what is metaphorical and what is literal. Which is what we all do.
I can see that and admit it... Can u?
Days... we know from the word one day to the lord is like a thousand years. So there is no time space when God made all this Yes the light before the sun awesome huh We should know there was sin before Adam and Eve. Well Satan had already fallen and hell was prepared/made for Satan and his angels. For God so loved the world... behold the lamb of God that takes away the? SIN of the world.
The truth is there is much here that is not written so speculation will come in to play. As wonderful lol as speculation can be its very unwise to run with it. Space... always wondered why so black? Oh I LOVE the stars. When I was like 15 or so I had a dream. In this dream I see my self with a HUGE smile and as i am looking at my self he/me turns my head to the right looking up. Now I see all these starts and its not black but a deep dark blue. Then from the right to left these angles cross the sky singing.. this is where I lost. ANYONE here ever hear music from heaven? I called the person that ran the bible study to PLEASE pray I want that to happen again.
Oh I prayed begged ...haha still am. There is nothing like it. No music here even comes close. And at that time I never knew angels had wings unit that dream. I know to our Father this like happen just moments ago but to me its been like what 48 years have gone by.. sorry.. this was about space black. Why make so many planets.... is that the 2nd heaven the place where Abraham said he could not cross.. I don't speculation lol
Yes the light before the sun awesome huh We should know there was sin before Adam and Eve. Well Satan had already fallen and hell was prepared/made for Satan and his angels. For God so loved the world... behold the lamb of God that takes away the? SIN of the world.The truth is there is much here that is not written so speculation will come in to play. As wonderful lol as speculation can be its very unwise to run with it. Space... always wondered why so black? Oh I LOVE the stars. When I was like 15 or so I had a dream. In this dream I see my self with a HUGE smile and as i am looking at my self he/me turns my head to the right looking up. Now I see all these starts and its not black but a deep dark blue. Then from the right to left these angles cross the sky singing.. this is where I lost. ANYONE here ever hear music from heaven? I called the person that ran the bible study to PLEASE pray I want that to happen again.
Oh I prayed begged ...haha still am. There is nothing like it. No music here even comes close. And at that time I never knew angels had wings unit that dream. I know to our Father this like happen just moments ago but to me its been like what 48 years have gone by.. sorry.. this was about space black. Why make so many planets.... is that the 2nd heaven the place where Abraham said he could not cross.. I don't speculation lol
That dream you had sounds awesome... Im trying to imagine it but I'm thinking its glory is far greater than anything I can imagine.
Pondering the unknown is fun but people seem to get carried away and put all their eggs in one basket
Interestingly, the RCC has no specific interpretation of the creation.
So people who are claiming to be infallible are the ones who are the most fallible