If The Kingdom isn't here yet then what is JESUS CHRIST a King of?

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This place is a test …and you are failing.

You are running up to the door of Heaven …and turning around to look for excuses to continue eating from the wrong tree.

a child of satan's kingdom has no idea they have chosen temptation to leave GOD'S Plan of LIFE.

We are supposed to hate sin because it is an offence to our KING. Do you want to be a Citizen or not?

You bought the excuse that JESUS is an automatic free pass for Judgment. What you don’t realize is that to say you Believe in CHRIST is to LIVE IT.
James 4:10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.
James 4:11 Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.
James 4:12 There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?
 
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JESUS didn't want us Judging others when we were doing the same sins because it would make His Name look like a hypocrite ...i stand in The Light, i'm free to tell you want the deal is.
 
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is eating from the tree of knowledge about making our own definitions so we can live our own plans against the one GOD has for us?

do you honestly think The HOLY SPIRIT is willing to be in a human that is going to physically sin again in the future?
 

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Yes brother, When in Christ, that's all that's left... 2Co 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

2Co 5:16 From now on we recognize no one according to the flesh; even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we no longer know Him in this way.

Rom 6:6 knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin be done away with, so that we are no longer slaves to sin;

Gal 2:20 “I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me.

Rev 3:1b He who has the seven Spirits of God and the seven stars, says this: ‘I know your deeds, that you have a name that you are alive, but you are dead.'

All The Best!!
 
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Christ is the Lord of the living stones being made into the temple of God. He is our King in our hearts and minds while He left the earth as the Lamb slain and worthy to open the sealed book up in heaven. He is returning to earth as KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS in which He ALL the kingdoms of the world will be under His RULE OF IRON and every knee shall bow.

He is our Spiritual King and Lord always, He will be our Physical King and Lord when He and the armies of heaven return for the Lords Day (which ends one age and begins another when the Alive and remaining changed and the fowls of the air feast on the dead flesh bodies).

God uses the expression "when sun and moon go dark" a few times when one age/time/rule ends and a new one begins

Ezekiel 32:7 And when I shall put thee out, I will cover the heaven, and make the stars thereof dark; I will cover the sun with a cloud, and the moon shall not give her light.

Ezekiel 32:8 All the bright lights of heaven will I make dark over thee, and set darkness upon thy land, saith the Lord GOD.

Ezekiel 32:9 I will also vex the hearts of many people, when I shall bring thy destruction among the nations, into the countries which thou hast not known.

Ezekiel 32:10 Yea, I will make many people amazed at thee, and their kings shall be horribly afraid for thee, when I shall brandish my sword before them; and they shall tremble at every moment, every man for his own life, in the day of thy fall.

Ezekiel 32:11 For thus saith the Lord GOD; The sword of the king of Babylon shall come upon thee.


Let's try to come together in unity strive to find what we share, and give the devil a run for the money.
 
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Many are blind to JESUS Reigning now because they think there shouldn't be sin or evil during it.
JESUS gave us The Way to The Kingdom. He told us there would be tares in it:

Matthew 13:24-30
Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.

26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

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Many are blind to JESUS Reigning now because they think there shouldn't be sin or evil during it.
JESUS gave us The Way to The Kingdom. He told us there would be tares in it:

Do you believe that we can know and understand Christ is reigning now as the temple is built up while at the same time know and understand that He is not reigning as He would have here on earth if He had not been rejected and killed instead?

Surely EVERYONE understands the 'King of the kingdom proclaimed' being killed changed the course of events that would have taken place had He been accepted, right? And all who have come to faith ALREADY believes

John 15:15 Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you. 16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you. 17 These things I command you, that ye love one another.
18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. 19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.


When He returns THIS WORLD will be a different world, ruled by Christ with a rod of iron in which ALL the kingdoms of this world are become HIS.

I think we are all saying the same thing in one way or the other, at least I pray we are.
 
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JESUS' Sacrifice was Ultimate over animal sacrifice because It continues to whoever replaces their fallen life/blood with The Kingdom Life of JESUS.

OVERCOME the beast and become a Pillar of The Kingdom.

Rev 3:12
Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.​

GOD Gave the Jews a way to be Saved before His Son got here, but that changed after JESUS Fulfilled it. You can't claim to have Abrahamic Faith in The MESSIAH after He was physically here.
 
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JESUS' Sacrifice was Ultimate over animal sacrifice because It continues to whoever replaces their fallen life/blood with The Kingdom Life of JESUS.
And it was voluntary and in obedience. Set quite the example for us. First the giver of life, then giver of forgiveness through giving His own life for us. Blessed we are to be found in faith.
 
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The Kingdom Life/Light of JESUS is The Kingdom of The Body of CHRIST.

Choose LIFE or death. Choose The Kingdom of LIFE today!
 
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What makes you think JESUS will be your King in the Afterlife if you didn't bow to Him while He was Reigning?

You either welcome GOD'S Presence into your life now ...or you failed the test.
 
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You either have GOD'S Seal or the mark of the beast ...right now. What do you care more about: GOD or money? The 144,000 is all The Saved that have a Song in their Heart. Ask yourself why you don't know what the Song is about.
 

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You either have GOD'S Seal or the mark of the beast ...right now.

The mark of the beast is not right now. That only comes once the false prophet orders an image of the beast to be made, then he makes the image come to life and will kill those who will not worship that image and only after that does he issue out the mark.

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
Rev 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
Rev 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

None of that has happened yet.
 
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The mark of the beast is not right now. That only comes once the false prophet orders an image of the beast to be made, then he makes the image come to life and will kill those who will not worship that image and only after that does he issue out the mark.

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
Rev 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
Rev 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

None of that has happened yet.
Right, you gave The MESSIAH'S Covenant from Daniel's 70 Weeks to satan ... to believe your ridiculousness.
 

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Right, you gave The MESSIAH'S Covenant from Daniel's 70 Weeks to satan ... to believe your ridiculousness.

You're the one teaching things that are unbiblical. The mark is not right now and scripture proves that. That is just Preterism which is not a biblical doctrine.
 
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Do you think the 144,000 is literally 144,000 ethnic Jews that are virgins and have never lied? Seriously? ...never lied? that's impossible and you know it.

The Number is GOD saying He isn't loosing anyone that He Elected.
 
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i get it, you want your sins more than GOD.
Who doesn’t?

God became more real to me when I confessed to Him that I loved sin more than Him.

You know it was like He responded, “Oh good, someone who is telling me the truth and not hiding behind the fig leaves trying to convince Me that they want Me more than anything”.

In my earlier years, I would try to run after God and kept hitting a brick wall. Then I observed those who ran from God and sinned like the dickens and God was really sending the grace after them to draw them in. Here I was “trying” to be a good little God loving believer. At some point, I gave up and became and started to confess to God that I loved my flesh. Oh, sure, He knew full well I didn’t. I was just messed up and I needed a lot of help.

I found out that by continuing in sin, grace much more abounded. Oh yes, Paul asked the question, ”shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid, how shall we who are dead to sin, live any longer therein.?” Well, there was the answer, I wan’t dead to sin.

It says, “Reckon yourselves to be dead unto sin”. That line right there requires illumination. We can try to reckon until we are blue in the face, but sin will always be at the door knocking saying, “I am your cute little secret sin here, remember me, I’ve been knocking for a long time now, why are you keeping me waiting?”.

The more I meet people that say they have reckoned themselves to be dead unto sin and alive unto God, the more I see that they have more sin that they can handle. It’s because they are trying to live out the New Testament as if it’s the law, and by the law, no man shall be justified.

Right now, I am looking into the perfect law of liberty and seeing a whole new set of circumstances.

Fortunately, the only people that I am writing to, are the ones that know exactly what I am talking about.
 
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Who doesn’t?

God became more real to me when I confessed to Him that I loved sin more than Him.

You know it was like He responded, “Oh good, someone who is telling me the truth and not hiding behind the fig leaves trying to convince Me that they want Me more than anything”.

In my earlier years, I would try to run after God and kept hitting a brick wall. Then I observed those who ran from God and sinned like the dickens and God was really sending the grace after them to draw them in. Here I was “trying” to be a good little God loving believer. At some point, I gave up and became and started to confess to God that I loved my flesh. Oh, sure, He knew full well I didn’t. I was just messed up and I needed a lot of help.

I found out that by continuing in sin, grace much more abounded. Oh yes, Paul asked the question, ”shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid, how shall we who are dead to sin, live any longer therein.?” Well, there was the answer, I wan’t dead to sin.

It says, “Reckon yourselves to be dead unto sin”. That line right there requires illumination. We can try to reckon until we are blue in the face, but sin will always be at the door knocking saying, “I am your cute little secret sin here, remember me, I’ve been knocking for a long time now, why are you keeping me waiting?”.

The more I meet people that say they have reckoned themselves to be dead unto sin and alive unto God, the more I see that they have more sin that they can handle. It’s because they are trying to live out the New Testament as if it’s the law, and by the law, no man shall be justified.

Right now, I am looking into the perfect law of liberty and seeing a whole new set of circumstances.

Fortunately, the only people that I am writing to, are the ones that know exactly what I am talking about.
Consecration is forming to the Reborn Holy Image.

Consecration is the amount of our unconditional Surrender to GOD. (sold out to GOD)

Exodus 32:29a

Then Moses said, "Consecrate yourselves today to the LORD, that He may bestow on you you a blessing this day."

1 Chronicles 29:1a, 5b

King David said to all the assembly... "Who then is WILLING to consecrate himself this day to the LORD?"

Philippians 2:12

...continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his purpose.”

Let GOD Work in you with Fear and Trembling ...is you choosing the good Paths/Plans that GOD is Handing you ...you do them fearfully because it might go against what a fallen man wants to do. If you question if it came from GOD, just ask if it is a Bible supported act.