If The Kingdom isn't here yet then what is JESUS CHRIST a King of?

[riverhooks]

Ok peldom that's one . I know Oyster is on the Rock as well . Just a p.s. to your comment that "We know an unrighteous soul does not contain God in any form" In the sense of knowing that I don't. I would have to count God as not being omnipresent namely filling all things everywhere. The unrighteous soul may not contain "Christ working in you to will and to do " . I don't know the nuts and bolts How The Almighty Spirit does it but it is "separate from sinners" . He is Holy and He does fill all things everywhere.

 

[peldom10]

Ok peldom that's one . I know Oyster is on the Rock as well . Just a p.s. to your comment that "We know an unrighteous soul does not contain God in any form" In the sense of knowing that I don't. I would have to count God as not being omnipresent namely filling all things everywhere. The unrighteous soul may not contain "Christ working in you to will and to do " . I don't know the nuts and bolts How The Almighty Spirit does it but it is "separate from sinners" . He is Holy and He does fill all things everywhere.

Then what does this scripture mean....I stand at the door and knock...ready to come in........?.

 

[Ogom]

Sounds like a lot of confusion from your reformist theology. Seriously, I really don't want to go there > Back in the day we just took the Word of God literally. Colossians 1:13 Who hath delivered us from power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

the problem is, we can't take everything in the Bible literally, or it literally won't make sense... and will become untrue and without Spirit.

 

[riverhooks]

the problem is, we can't take everything in the Bible literally, or it literally won't make sense... and will become untrue and without Spirit.

Spoken like a true reprobate lol. If you are born-again All scripture is profitable for correction, reproof, and instruction in righteousness.

 

[riverhooks]

Well...call it as you wish.
Euphemisms are often used to express thoughts but, can be difficult to assemble in understanding.
If we are a repented soul, baptized and are living a righteous life one could be considered to be part of God's kingdom...when it comes.

You are in the Kingdom of God , now. According to the Bible peldom10. If you are are Christs. Colossians 1:12-13 12. Giving thanks to the Father which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son. :14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins : God said , I believe it , that settles it . Who is telling you not believe everything in the Bible ? Hath God said ? Would you would accept truth and move on . If you have forgiveness of sins. You are in Christ ergo you are in the kingdom per scripture.

 

[riverhooks]

Further you are a citizen of heaven, NOW. “Our citizenship is in heaven” "You are in the world but not of the world” You are Christs Body and members in particular. You are co-crucified , co-resurrected , co-ascended , co-seated with Christ in heavenly places. "You are kept by the power of God unto salvation". "All things work together for your good". And someday we will be like Him for we will see Him as He is . So you will just have to wait for with the rest of us to receive your glorified body and see Christs return in the clouds with power and great Glory.

 

[peldom10]

I believe you have missed the point;

We are not part of God's kingdom until after death and His judgement to be so. We have no authority to put ourselves in the presence of God until judged to do so with the award of eternal salvation. That can only occur after our physical death.
Until then we are ...born again...not saved.

 

[DavidTree]

You are in the Kingdom of God , now. According to the Bible peldom10. If you are are Christs. Colossians 1:12-13 12. Giving thanks to the Father which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son. :14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins : God said , I believe it , that settles it . Who is telling you not believe everything in the Bible ? Hath God said ? Would you would accept truth and move on . If you have forgiveness of sins. You are in Christ ergo you are in the kingdom per scripture.

I firmly agree with this testimony.

 

[DavidTree]

I believe you have missed the point;

We are not part of God's kingdom until after death and His judgement to be so. We have no authority to put ourselves in the presence of God until judged to do so with the award of eternal salvation. That can only occur after our physical death.
Until then we are ...born again...not saved.

That's OK, for we are sanctified by His Blood poured out for us on the Mercy Seat which HE took to the throne of God on our behalf.

We see the Effectual Act of Justification of this in Scripture: Matt ch27
And Jesus cried out again with a loud voice, and yielded up His spirit.

51Then, behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth quaked, and the rocks were split, 52and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; 53and coming out of the graves after His resurrection, they went into the holy city and appeared to many.

54So when the centurion and those with him, who were guarding Jesus, saw the earthquake and the things that had happened, they feared greatly, saying, “Truly this was the Son of God!”

 

[riverhooks]

I believe you have missed the point;

We are not part of God's kingdom until after death and His judgement to be so. We have no authority to put ourselves in the presence of God until judged to do so with the award of eternal salvation. That can only occur after our physical death.
Until then we are ...born again...not saved.

There is no point to be made you are to accept God at His Word. OR Not. The Bible is the authority not you or me.

 

[peldom10]

There is no point to be made you are to accept God at His Word. OR Not. The Bible is the authority not you or me.

The point to be made is...we are to be in compliance with God's word...... and intent.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

The point to be made is...we are to be in compliance with God's word...... and intent.

And that includes being kind and gentle in our instruction of others.

2 Timothy 2:24-26 NLT - 24 A servant of the Lord must not quarrel but must be kind to everyone, be able to teach, and be patient with difficult people. 25 Gently instruct those who oppose the truth. Perhaps God will change those people's hearts, and they will learn the truth. 26 Then they will come to their senses and escape from the devil's trap. For they have been held captive by him to do whatever he wants.

Why do you believe that the above Scripture does not apply to you?

 

[Ogom]

..... If you are born-again All scripture is profitable for correction, reproof, and instruction in righteousness.

"Romans 8:5 “For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit.”"

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Weymouth New Testament
It is He also who has made us competent to serve Him in connexion with a new Covenant, which is not a written code but a Spirit; for the written code inflicts death, but the Spirit gives Life.

 

[Ogom]

I believe you have missed the point; ....


We have no authority to put ourselves in the presence of God ....

many points can be missed in the beginning. in the beginning of understanding/ wondering /thinking -- about what the Bible might all really mean we can get lost in what we already believe or study -- in order to see what others believe and to find help in understanding. many who have gone before can have good ideas that can lead us to more and better understandings.

but without asking God what is the truth about this topic, or what about this? and continuing to seek answers - from God/ Spirit many will get stuck in their own doctrines + good ideas also. which means there is alot of confusion out there. and here on these forums it is plainly seen - to those with eyes to see.

 

[peldom10]

And that includes being kind and gentle in our instruction of others.

2 Timothy 2:24-26 NLT - 24 A servant of the Lord must not quarrel but must be kind to everyone, be able to teach, and be patient with difficult people. 25 Gently instruct those who oppose the truth. Perhaps God will change those people's hearts, and they will learn the truth. 26 Then they will come to their senses and escape from the devil's trap. For they have been held captive by him to do whatever he wants.

Why do you believe that the above Scripture does not apply to you?

I see you don't read very well.

You are quarreling...not me.
Last response to your interloper position.