I am a Christian who does not accept or follow Christianity.
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He meant Jesus was God…
John 8:58-59
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. (KJV)
The point is that with this single utterance Jesus had at once claimed that He was God Almighty. For this the Jews sought to kill Him because had it not been true (but it was) then it would have been blasphemy punishable by death for a man to make the claim. So in that the Jews could have meant 'well.' BUT, Jesus was God, so it was not blasphemy for Jesus to say it. But the Jews did not believe that Jesus was the Immanuel - God with us (Isa 7:14) that the prophets of old had foretold of. But they should have, for he fulfilled over 300 Old Testament prophesies!
John 8:58-59
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. (KJV)
What was it about Jesus saying "I Am" that so caused the Jews to want to kill Him? "I AM" is the sacred name, Jesus was calling Himself God! Observe God's sacred name that he Himself spoke to Moses:
Exod 3:14
14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. (KJV)
Jesus was/is God and He stated so. While it is somewhat obscured in our English translations, the Jews knew full well that Jesus claimed to be God in the flesh (for Jesus spoke to everyone in their native tongue, therefore when Jesus told them in Hebrew that He was the "I AM," what He was saying was 'EHaYEH , or the title fully stated 'EhaYEH aSHER 'EYaYEH which means: I AM THAT I AM, or I will be what I want to be –— I exist (by self), self existent, God Almighty, created by none, but simply became –— was –— is. To this day, Jews will not pronounce 'EHaYEH , for they reason that for a Hebrew in the Hebrew tongue, to say the name 'EHaYEH, is itself calling oneself God. Exod 3:14
14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. (KJV)
The point is that with this single utterance Jesus had at once claimed that He was God Almighty. For this the Jews sought to kill Him because had it not been true (but it was) then it would have been blasphemy punishable by death for a man to make the claim. So in that the Jews could have meant 'well.' BUT, Jesus was God, so it was not blasphemy for Jesus to say it. But the Jews did not believe that Jesus was the Immanuel - God with us (Isa 7:14) that the prophets of old had foretold of. But they should have, for he fulfilled over 300 Old Testament prophesies!
John 8:58-59
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
John 5:18
18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God. (KJV)
John 10:32-33
32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. (KJV)
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
John 5:18
18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God. (KJV)
John 10:32-33
32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. (KJV)
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No. I am not. I have said elsewhere that I believe in the Deity of Jesus. I just don't believe that He is God. I believe that Jesus is the Son of God, the Word.
John 17:5 NASB20 - "And now You, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world existed.
John 1:14 NASB20 - And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us; and we saw His glory, glory as of the only [Son] from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Colossians 2:9 NASB20 - For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form,
John 17:5 NASB20 - "And now You, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world existed.
John 1:14 NASB20 - And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us; and we saw His glory, glory as of the only [Son] from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Colossians 2:9 NASB20 - For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form,
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Same difference. Split hairs much? Anyways, now you know it is not allowed.
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They had a false accusation.
Remember what Jesus prayed here to God.
John 17:5 NASB20 - "And now You, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world existed.
So, Jesus is the Son of God. He spoke of God as His Father.
There is a difference between the Hebrew, the Greek, and the English, where you might be getting caught up with relating I am statements. Jesus said I am many times.
Remember what Jesus prayed here to God.
John 17:5 NASB20 - "And now You, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world existed.
So, Jesus is the Son of God. He spoke of God as His Father.
There is a difference between the Hebrew, the Greek, and the English, where you might be getting caught up with relating I am statements. Jesus said I am many times.
No, I don't.
Hebrews 4:12 NASB20 - For the word of God is living and active, and sharper than any two-edged sword, even penetrating as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart.
2 Timothy 2:15 NKJV - Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
I don't know what you mean by same difference. Also, I know that you are telling me that something is not allowed, but I don't know what it is and I think that there may be some kind of misunderstanding. I believe in the Deity of Christ. I believe that He is the Son of God. I just don't believe that He is God. Except in Revelation it says something about Alpha and Omega so I am not sure. I read the opening post. It made me shudder. I don't know what you are trying to point me to.
The flaw in your logic is you believe that a son cannot be a father.
Satan is the father of lies. But when he is being sneaky he is called a serpent, when he is starting wars he is called a dragon, we he is being a tempter he is called the devil… But he is still one person.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
That’s why it is written…
Satan is the father of lies. But when he is being sneaky he is called a serpent, when he is starting wars he is called a dragon, we he is being a tempter he is called the devil… But he is still one person.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
That’s why it is written…
Jn 5:7
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father [Lord God], the Word [Jesus Christ], and the Holy Ghost [Holy Spirit]: and these three are one. (KJV)
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father [Lord God], the Word [Jesus Christ], and the Holy Ghost [Holy Spirit]: and these three are one. (KJV)