How many here believe the literal Word of God in the Bible
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Is it not true that the NIV does not include what is included by the kjv in such passages as Luke 9:55-56 and Romans 13:9?
You can check up on this and will find it to be true.
I will say that the kjv did not add to the scriptures in these passages; because if they did there would have been the visible sign of the plagues of the book of Revelation being added to the translators (see Revelation 22:18-19). So it would be true that those who translared modeern translations took these points away from holy scripture; and the invisible punishment was added to then, that their name was taken out of the book of life, and the holy city, and the things that are written in the book of Revelation.
Personally, I do not want to be cheated out of something that the Holy Spirit might want to minister to me.
Therefore, I read the kjv; which keeps within it many of the words, phrases, sentences, paragraphs, and even entire passages that are taken out in modern translations (such as the beginning of John 8 and the end of Mark 16).
You can check up on this and will find it to be true.
I will say that the kjv did not add to the scriptures in these passages; because if they did there would have been the visible sign of the plagues of the book of Revelation being added to the translators (see Revelation 22:18-19). So it would be true that those who translared modeern translations took these points away from holy scripture; and the invisible punishment was added to then, that their name was taken out of the book of life, and the holy city, and the things that are written in the book of Revelation.
Personally, I do not want to be cheated out of something that the Holy Spirit might want to minister to me.
Therefore, I read the kjv; which keeps within it many of the words, phrases, sentences, paragraphs, and even entire passages that are taken out in modern translations (such as the beginning of John 8 and the end of Mark 16).
Your assertion is incorrect.
Have you ever asked someone why they reject the TR? Or have you just invented an explanation that satisfies you, regardless of whether it is true? Or perhaps you are content with parroting the silly comments of others without giving them the critical thought they deserve.
Have you ever asked someone why they reject the TR? Or have you just invented an explanation that satisfies you, regardless of whether it is true? Or perhaps you are content with parroting the silly comments of others without giving them the critical thought they deserve.
The evidence is in the fact that the kjv contains doctrines that people generally don't like and therefore they go to other translations because they want a different message. Other translations do give them a different message that tends to be watered down as compared to the kjv. The evidence is in the reading if you will read the kjv as compared to other translations; but is too extended in content for me to relate everything about it here.
I make it about you because I care about you and am making it my goal, while speaking with you, to minister to you.
I make it about you because I care about you and am making it my goal, while speaking with you, to minister to you.
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As I understand the meaning of a cult, is a group of religious people who teach some kind of false doctrine and deny one of the fundamentals of the Christian faith.
I find it interesting that many on here do not believe in the existence of ANY Bible in ANY language (including "the" Hebrew and "the" Greek) and do not believe in the Infallibility of the Bible (ANY Bible) seem to consider themselves "orthodox" while we Christians who believe God has been faithful to His promises to preserve His words in "the book of the LORD" and that there really IS such a thing as a complete, infallible and 100% historically true Bible that contains ALL the inspired words of God are now considered to be "a cult".
A "cult" almost always teaches that they are the only ones who are truly saved and everybody else is lost and damned. Yet the overwhelming majority of King James Bible believers I know of do not at all believe they are the only ones who are true Christians. The gospel can be found in any bible version in any language and God can and does use them to bring his people to faith in Christ. I do not at all believe the Bible version issue is a salvation issue.
I find it interesting that many on here do not believe in the existence of ANY Bible in ANY language (including "the" Hebrew and "the" Greek) and do not believe in the Infallibility of the Bible (ANY Bible) seem to consider themselves "orthodox" while we Christians who believe God has been faithful to His promises to preserve His words in "the book of the LORD" and that there really IS such a thing as a complete, infallible and 100% historically true Bible that contains ALL the inspired words of God are now considered to be "a cult".
A "cult" almost always teaches that they are the only ones who are truly saved and everybody else is lost and damned. Yet the overwhelming majority of King James Bible believers I know of do not at all believe they are the only ones who are true Christians. The gospel can be found in any bible version in any language and God can and does use them to bring his people to faith in Christ. I do not at all believe the Bible version issue is a salvation issue.
Again, I ask for evidence. Find a doctrine that "people generally don't like", and find someone... ANYONE... who has gone to another translation because they want a different message.
I won't wait.
Here's the reality: there isn't a single primary or secondary doctrine that can't be found in the modern translations. NOT ONE. There isn't even a minor, disputable doctrine that can't be found in the modern translations. Your assertion is nothing but wind.
Insulting people is not an effective way to minister to them. I don't perceive anything in the way of "caring" from you.
I won't wait.
Here's the reality: there isn't a single primary or secondary doctrine that can't be found in the modern translations. NOT ONE. There isn't even a minor, disputable doctrine that can't be found in the modern translations. Your assertion is nothing but wind.
Insulting people is not an effective way to minister to them. I don't perceive anything in the way of "caring" from you.
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Certain doctrines are taken out of certain verses so that they might be found in only one verse in some modern translations.
And the same people who defend them desire that in order to prove any doctrine, you must have more than one scripture to substantiate it.
Thus, in their lives, satan effectively removes certain doctrines from their understanding.
And the same people who defend them desire that in order to prove any doctrine, you must have more than one scripture to substantiate it.
Thus, in their lives, satan effectively removes certain doctrines from their understanding.
yea saying vipers most of the time is not the best way.I think if we just become the lips of god,that is the best way.If we are like hay Jesus i'll take care of this!! then of course the word of god will be mixed with pride. Insalt not in insult become lots wife that is the salt of the earth in the proper context of course.