God's Sabbath Rest - Mission Impossible

[DavidTree]

If you needed to bow down to a golden image or be killed would you do it?
Dan 3:6 And whoso falleth not down and worshippeth shall the same hour be cast into the midst of a burning fiery furnace.

When it's life and death should we compromise our faith?
Dan 3:14 Nebuchadnezzar spake and said unto them, Is it true, O Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, do not ye serve my gods, nor worship the golden image which I have set up?
Dan 3:16 Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, answered and said to the king, O Nebuchadnezzar, we are not careful to answer thee in this matter. Dan 3:17 If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver us out of thine hand, O king. Dan 3:18 But if not, be it known unto thee, O king, that we will not serve thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up.
Jesus walked with them in the fire.
Dan 3:30 Then the king promoted Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, in the province of Babylon.

Keeping the commandments might mean challengers but Jesus will be with us and our faith will grow.
2Co 12:10 Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.
2Ti 3:12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

1.) Do you believe we must keep the seventh day of the week sabbath?
2.) If i work on Saturday am i in sin?

 

[Magenta]

I rest in Christ every day.

 

[Elvispelvis888]

The lord have not changed his ways. For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed (Malachi 3:6) or Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. Honoring the Sabbath on the 7th day is a commandment from God given from the beginning of the creation.

The Sabbath did not start with Moses; understand that the Sabbath day is intended to be observe by all nation of people. Its origin goes back to the creation of the world and of mankind. In (Genesis 2:1) Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

The above scriptures clearly show that God blessed, sanctified and made Holy the 7th Day at the beginning of the world. God chose to cease from His labor not because He was tired. He chose to cease and rest because he was finished with His creation. The Lord had completed the heavens and the earth along with the creation of man. This day represent a future day of rest, after the Great tribulation period. This day is not alike any other day, it's set apart. Paul understood in Hebrews 4: 3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, If they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. 4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. 5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest. 6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief: 7 again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, Harden not your hearts. 8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. 9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.

So this is what the whole world would be missing out on, because some don’t believe, they believe Sunday is the day to have an Holy Convaction on, and it’s not written in the Bible.

Let’s go into the future and see what the Lord expects in the future concerning his Sabbaths. Let turn to Isaiah 56:1 Thus saith the LORD, Keep ye judgment, and do justice: for my salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed. 56:2 Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil. 56:3 Neither let the son of the stranger, that hath joined himself to the LORD, speak, saying, The LORD hath utterly separated me from his people: neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree. 56:4 For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant; 56:5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off. 56:6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant; 56:7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.

Very well said beautiful!! Elvis

In Hebrew the number seven is the magical key to unlocking the secret code that the Rabbis and sages discovered thousands of years
ago because the Hebrew alphabet can also be numbers Alelph = one, Beta 2 and so on...
The Rabbis can then check if there understanding fits into the number code 613.
There are 613 Laws of the Mitzvah. 300 positive, 200 negative approx 96 curses.
All scripture is in the secret code of seven Hebrew and Greek Old and New.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
The Seventh-day Sabbath is forever!
You are breaking the Ten Commandments so I had to speak up and have been disfellowshipped twice!!
Shalom

 

[Elvispelvis888]

1.) Do you believe we must keep the seventh day of the week sabbath?
2.) If i work on Saturday am i in sin?

Let me try to explain what I have learned from spending thousands of hours with over fifty different Rabbis who read Torah to me in Hebrew then explain in English so I can get it.
Please remember you are breaking the Ten commandments if you break the seventh-day LAW! How serious is that? Spiritual death then rejected at the judgment seat physical death.

To not believe in faith that Yahweh will give you better than you lost shows Elohim The Mighty Angels your disregard for Torah!
To begin with you owe 10% off the top to the keep the commandment to Abraham to give to the poor, widows, orphans. homeless, etc

5 And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the Lord of hosts.
6 For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Seven is the secret code of the Old and New Hebrew and Greek Testaments!
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

The seventh day commandment is for ever!
Leviticus 16:31
It shall be a sabbath of rest unto you, and ye shall afflict your souls, by a statute for ever.

I certainly have much more to say .... to be continued....
Shalom

 

[studentoftheword]

The Sabbath Rest was before the Law = Genesis 2:1-3

God firmly established His Sabbath Rest in the Law with the penalty of Death for violating His Rest.

Your Mission, should you choose to accept it, is to find out from Scripture, IF and When, this commandment became 'obsolete' and yet is still ALIVE.

This is that scripture -----


Genesis 2:1-3

New International Version

2 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array.

2 By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work.

3 Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.

I say -----
Nowhere does it say that God commanded anyone to keep the Sabbath ---the scripture above says God rested from His work and the next verse says He Blessed the 7th day made it Holy because HE Rested form His work -----

I say
This is all about God resting ---this has nothing to do with God's command to the Israelite's to keep the Sabbath ------

So
DavidTree ---Show me the scripture in Genesis where God told Adam and Eve to keep the Sabbath Day in the Garden or they would be put to death -----

Show me the scripture where God told Noah to keep the Sabbath Day of he would be put to death -----

Show me the Scripture where God told Abraham to keep the Sabbath Day or he would be put to death ---

If God made the disobedience death in the beginning them he would have surely put it in Scripture in Genesis for all the people above as God Himself declares He shows no favouritism ---

So ---Question -to you DavidTree ----where is your proof that the Sabbath was enforced before He made a command to the Israelites that they were to keep the Sabbath or die -----God certainly let them know the outcome of their disobedience in scripture -----and God would have put it in scripture from the beginning if it was a command from the beginning -----

 

[Magenta]

To begin with you owe 10% off the top to the keep the commandment
to Abraham to give to the poor, widows, orphans. homeless, etc

28 At the end of every three years, bring a tenth of all your produce for that year and lay it up within your gates. 29 Then the Levite (because he has no portion or inheritance among you), the foreigner, the fatherless, and the widow within your gates may come and eat and be satisfied. And the LORD your God will bless you in all the work of your hands.

I learned the above in less than five minutes...

Let me try to explain what I have learned from spending thousands of hours with over fifty
different Rabbis who read Torah to me in Hebrew then explain in English so I can get it.

 

[TMS]

1.) Do you believe we must keep the seventh day of the week sabbath?
2.) If i work on Saturday am i in sin?

I am not Judge..
Mar 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
Mar 2:28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

 

[TMS]

Did God get tired and grew weary after the 6th day that HE needed to rest???

No, Sabbath keepers do not think that, The reason God rested and made it Holy was for mans sake. It was a gift to mankind.
The Sabbath is a wonderful delight when you experience it the way God intended.

 

[DavidTree]

This is that scripture -----


Genesis 2:1-3

New International Version

2 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array.

2 By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work.

3 Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.

I say -----
Nowhere does it say that God commanded anyone to keep the Sabbath ---the scripture above says God rested from His work and the next verse says He Blessed the 7th day made it Holy because HE Rested form His work -----

I say
This is all about God resting ---this has nothing to do with God's command to the Israelite's to keep the Sabbath ------

So
DavidTree ---Show me the scripture in Genesis where God told Adam and Eve to keep the Sabbath Day in the Garden or they would be put to death -----

Show me the scripture where God told Noah to keep the Sabbath Day of he would be put to death -----

Show me the Scripture where God told Abraham to keep the Sabbath Day or he would be put to death ---

If God made the disobedience death in the beginning them he would have surely put it in Scripture in Genesis for all the people above as God Himself declares He shows no favouritism ---

So ---Question -to you DavidTree ----where is your proof that the Sabbath was enforced before He made a command to the Israelites that they were to keep the Sabbath or die -----God certainly let them know the outcome of their disobedience in scripture -----and God would have put it in scripture from the beginning if it was a command from the beginning -----

Hallelujah - It is nice to hear from you Brother and i joyfully accept your challenge - Thank you for the opportunity.

Together, we shall sharpen our Swords of the Word that we may do battle against the enemy.

For it is written: "As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend."
and
For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh. For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ, and being ready to punish all disobedience when your obedience is fulfilled.

i just returned home - either later tonight or tomorrow - PEACE

 

[studentoftheword]

DavidTree ---
Hallelujah - It is nice to hear from you Brother and i joyfully accept your challenge - Thank you for the opportunity.

I will eagerly wait for your reply --- Peace to you as well Brother ---Just to clarify ----I am not a Brother --I'm a Sister

 

[DavidTree]

I am not Judge..
Mar 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
Mar 2:28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

The law is not sin, but it is the ministry of death.

Do you know why?
and
Which ministry do desire to be under?

 

[DavidTree]

DavidTree ---
Hallelujah - It is nice to hear from you Brother and i joyfully accept your challenge - Thank you for the opportunity.

I will eagerly wait for your reply --- Peace to you as well Brother ---Just to clarify ----I am not a Brother --I'm a Sister

Love you my Sister and thank you for patiently allowing me time to respond.
i am much intrigued by your question(s) - Amen

Oh and thank you for the clarification.

 

[TMS]

The law is not sin, but it is the ministry of death.

Do you know why?
and
Which ministry do desire to be under?

Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
Rom 7:8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
Rom 7:9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
Rom 7:10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
Rom 7:11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
Rom 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
Rom 7:13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

Sin is death not the law.

 

[TMS]

The law is not sin, but it is the ministry of death.

Do you know why?
and
Which ministry do desire to be under?

The law that is the ministry of death was what pointed to the death of Jesus. The death of Jesus gives us life. so without the death of Jesus we could not have life. My faith is in the life that Jesus give.

You keep side stepping the question..... Do we make void the law by faith? Do we ignore the law because Jesus has paid the penalty of transgressing the law? Because Jesus has covered me for my sins am i free to continue in sin?

 

[DavidTree]

Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
Rom 7:8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
Rom 7:9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
Rom 7:10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
Rom 7:11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
Rom 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
Rom 7:13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

Sin is death not the law.

Agree - Sin is Death and the Law makes certain we deserve Death for not keeping God's Law.

And, for the Record, no one was able to keep God's Law except One Man.

Now if the ministry of death, which was engraved in letters on stone, came with such glory that the Israelites could not gaze at the face of Moses because of its fleeting glory, = 2 Cor 3:7

Which ministry do you desire to be under?

 

[TMS]

Law reveals SIN and sin = death.
For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

The law can protect us from sin by helping us understand what sin is. Jesus will fix the failings but we should not abuse that grace and sin because of His love.
Like laws that tell us to drive at a speed limit can protect us from crashing but because Jesus pays all the fines do we speed and continue to crash.

 

[TMS]

Agree - Sin is Death and the Law makes certain we deserve Death for not keeping God's Law.

And, for the Record, no one was able to keep God's Law except One Man.

Now if the ministry of death, which was engraved in letters on stone, came with such glory that the Israelites could not gaze at the face of Moses because of its fleeting glory, = 2 Cor 3:7

Which ministry do you desire to be under?

the law does make certain we deserve death.... So are you deserving of death today, are you exempt from that death penalty?
Because Jesus kept the law we can have faith in His grace. If the law does not exist today why do you need the grace of Jesus?

 

[DavidTree]

the law does make certain we deserve death.... So are you deserving of death today, are you exempt from that death penalty?
Because Jesus kept the law we can have faith in His grace. If the law does not exist today why do you need the grace of Jesus?

Which ministry do you desire to be under?

The ministry of death?
or
The ministry of Grace?

 

[TMS]

The law points out sin today = we are sinners = we all need Jesus

By faith in Jesus not by works, we can have justification or full forgiveness of sin.

I serve Jesus out of love and because i love Jesus i obey Him, and ask Him to write the law in my heart and mind.

i keep the law not to be saved and not to gain points but because i am saved and because Jesus inspires me to live a life like He lived..

 

[TMS]

Which ministry do you desire to be under?

The ministry of death?
or
The ministry of Grace?

Grace,