GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?
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All of us have a sinful nature and all we can do without him is sin but the good news is that the Word of creation can save those who believe. Those that believe follow him because he bids them come. So they walk on water because they believe His Word.
The only test however to know if we are really following God or not is if our faith has the fruit of creation because he is the creator of all things. Obedience is the fruit of faith that works by love. It is only by love that we are free to love him who first loved us and love is the fulfilling of God's Law in us who walk in the Spirit.
Abiding in him who loves all teaches all to love because he first loved us. He who dwells in love dwells in God for God is love. For this Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly summed up in love which is where all the law and the prophets hang. Those that do not love do not know God for God is love and is why Jesus says only if you love me you can keep my commandments.
Those that came to the light know they were poor, blind and naked and cried out Lord save us we perish. He bids them come and they walk on water because they see him who loves all. He has not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance but many did not know the meaning. Many are called but few are chosen because men loved darkness rather than light because their deeds were evil. Neither would they come to the light because they were naked. These were those that see but were really blind because their mirror was lost or broken. How can you find their way when there is no mirror when the way is narrow? Many voices are calling but God's sheep only hear the voice of the true Shepard.
Can you guess the scriptures?
The only test however to know if we are really following God or not is if our faith has the fruit of creation because he is the creator of all things. Obedience is the fruit of faith that works by love. It is only by love that we are free to love him who first loved us and love is the fulfilling of God's Law in us who walk in the Spirit.
Abiding in him who loves all teaches all to love because he first loved us. He who dwells in love dwells in God for God is love. For this Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly summed up in love which is where all the law and the prophets hang. Those that do not love do not know God for God is love and is why Jesus says only if you love me you can keep my commandments.
Those that came to the light know they were poor, blind and naked and cried out Lord save us we perish. He bids them come and they walk on water because they see him who loves all. He has not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance but many did not know the meaning. Many are called but few are chosen because men loved darkness rather than light because their deeds were evil. Neither would they come to the light because they were naked. These were those that see but were really blind because their mirror was lost or broken. How can you find their way when there is no mirror when the way is narrow? Many voices are calling but God's sheep only hear the voice of the true Shepard.
Can you guess the scriptures?
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The problem is, though you were repeatedly asked on the other website if you ever commit any sin, you always refused to answer the simple simple question didn't you. Why????
According to Gods word, if we claim to be without sin we are deceived and the truth is not in us.
Are you deceived, is the truth not in you?
According to Gods word, if we claim to be without sin we are deceived and the truth is not in us.
Are you deceived, is the truth not in you?
Stuart you were always answered on the other website with scripture but you did not like the answers you heard because you did not believe God's Word. The post above is an example of the scriptures I quoted on the other website but you did not know them and is why I ask again do you know the scriptures.
Your question has already been answered in post # 404 but I see you still do not know or believe the scriptures because you continue to ask the same old questions when your answer has already been there in front of you all this time
He who sees, sees all. How can you being evil do good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. Those that be whole do not need a physician but those that are sick. By their fruits you will know them. Love is a fruit. Those that love have met the physician. The mirror shows the way that all must look into it and see themselves. Then we can see the one who loves us and know the one who is calling us. It is the small voice behind us saying this is the way walk you in it. It is hard to kick against the pricks…[FONT="].
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Well for someone that knows the scripture why could you not tell me the scriptures that were quoted earlier?
You must of missed these about God's 10 commandments (includes the 4th commandment) in the NT?
What did Jesus and the Apostles teach about the Sabbath in the New Testament?
1. It is lawful to do good on the Sabbath (Matt 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56)
2. Jesus made the Sabbath for all mankind (Mark 2:27)
3. Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28)
4. If you do not believe and follow God you cannot enter His Sabbath rest (Hebrews 4)
5. It is one of God’s 10 commandments we break it we are guilty or breaking all (James 2:8-12)
6. Breaking it is sin (1 John 3:4)
7. God’s true followers keep it Holy as God commanded (Rev 14:12; Rev 22:14; Eze 20:20)
8. Jesus is our example and he kept the Sabbath (Matt 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56; John 2:6; Matt 16:24; 1 Cor 11:1; Eph 5:1-21; Pet 2:20-22)
9. The Apostles kept the Sabbath (Acts 13:14; 13:27; 13:44; 15:21; 16:13; 17:2; 18:4; Rev 1:10)
Sin is breaking any of God's commandments including the 4th commandment 7th day Sabbath (James 2:11; Romans 7:7; Romans 3:20; 1 John 3:4) James tells us if we break one of the ten we are guilty of breaking all of them (James 2:8-12)
Jesus taught the 10 commandments…..
1. Jesus kept God’s Law (10 commandments) and said the Law and the prophets would not pass away (Matt 5:17-18)
2. Jesus taught others to follow the 10 commandments (Mark 10:17-21)
3. Jesus taught that Love is the fulfilling (doing) of God’s Law (10 commandments Matt 22:36-40)
4. If we break God’s Law by following man-made traditions we are not following God (Matt 15:3-9)
5. Jesus says if we commit sin we are a servant of sin and he has come to free us from sin (John 8:32-36)
6. Jesus taught if you love God you will keep God’s Law and abide in His Love (John 14:15; 15:10
7. If anyone is breaking any of God’s commandments and teaching others to do so will be called least in the kingdom of heaven <least = lost> (Matt 5:19)
8. No one can obey God’s Law producing the fruit of obedience of ourselves and unless we abide in Jesus we can do nothing (John 15:4-10)
Paul affirms the Ten Commandments……
1. Paul teaches God's people keep the Sabbath Hebrews 4.
2. Paul tells gentiles that "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of GOD" 1 Cor 7:19
3. Paul tells gentiles "it is not the HEARERS of the Law that are just before God but the DOERS of the Law will be justified... on the day when according to my GOSPEL God will judge all mankind" Rom 2:13-16
4. Paul asks that gentiles consider the doctrine of LAW "Do we then make void the LAW of God by our faith? God forbid! In fact we establish the Law of God" Rom 3:31
5. Paul tells ALL Christians that it is only the lost who will "not subject themselves to the Law of God neither indeed CAN they" Rom 8:6-8
6 Paul reaches all Christians under the NEW Covenant that God's LAW as known in Jer 31:31-33 is "written on the heart and mind" Heb 8:7-11
7. Paul tells all Christians that the OT text is to be used for Doctrine 2Tim 3:16
AND He never claims that "if I did not write it -- it is not scripture for us today" -- as one or two have imagined for us.
8. Paul tells all Christians that the 5th commandment is the "FIRST commandment with a promise" Eph 6:1-2 and is binding on all Christians.
9. God's Law (10 commandments) are holy, just and good (Rom 7:12)
10. God's Law gives us a knowledge of what sin is (Rom 3:20; 7:7)
11. The penalty of breaking God's Law without Jesus is death (Rom 6:23)
12. If we break God's Law we dishonor God (Rom 2:23)
13. If we sin we are "under the Law" and guilty before God (Rom 3:19)
14. We are saved by faith but our faith establishes the Law in us (Rom 3:31)
15. If we are saved by grace we should not break God's Law (Rom 6:1-7)
16. We should not break God's Law if we are under grace (Rom 6:15)
17. We are to serve the Law of God through the mind because that is where sin starts (Rom 6:17; 7:25; 8:4; 12:2)
18. It is God's Law that brings us to Jesus (Gal 3:24)
19. God's salvation frees us from sin so we can be obedient to God's Law and live a life of holiness (Rom 6:22)
20. We will be judged by God's Law and only those that are obedient will be justified because of their faith (Rom 2:4-13)
21. God's Law can only be obeyed through love and a changed heart which comes by faith in God's Word (Rom 2:21-29; 13:9-10; Heb 8:9-10)
22. If we break God's Law and are in unrepentant sin we will be lost and will received God's judgements (Heb 10:26-27)
John affirms the 10 commandments……
1. John says it is only by keeping God’s 10 commandments that we know that we know God (1 John 2:3)
2. If someone says that they know God and do not keep God’s 10 commandments they are lying and not telling the truth (1 John 2:4)
3. We should purify ourselves as Jesus is pure (1 John 3:3)
4. Sin is the breaking of God’s 10 commandments (1 John 3:4)
5. Whoever is abiding in Christ does not commit sin (1 John 3:6; John 15:4-10)
6. If you are in unrepentant sin you have not seen Jesus or know him (1 John 3:6)
7. John warns us that only those that are obedience to God’s Law are his true followers (1 John 3:7)
8. If someone is committing unrepentant sin they are following the devil and not God (1 John 3:7)
9. If you are born of God and abiding in him you will not commit sin (1 John 3:9; 1 John 3:6; John 15:4-10
10. It is the keeping of God’s commandments that is the difference between those that are following God and those that are not following God (1 John 3:10; 1 John 5:3)
11. It is only by Love through faith that we can keep God’s commandments (1 John 5:3-4)
12. God’s true believers in the end days will keep all of God’s commandments through faith in Jesus (Rev 14:12; 22:14)
James also affirms the 10 commandments…….
1. James says God’s Law (10 commandments) are a Royal Law (James 2:8)
2. If we break one of God’s commandments we a guilty before God as sinners breaking all of God’s Law and gave some examples of breaking God’s Law (James 2:9-11)
3. James says God’s Law is a law of liberty and freedom (James 2:12)
4. The 10 commandments (God’s Law) are the standard in the judgment (James 2:12)
5. If our faith does not have the fruit of obedience to God’s Law it is dead and not true faith (James 2:16-26)
Peter affirms the 10 commandments……..
1. Sanctification is to obedience to God’s Law (1 Pet 1:2)
2. We can only be changed from sin to obedience to God’s Law by the power of God and it will be revealed in the last days (1 Pet 1:5)
3. We should give up our sins to be holy because Jesus is holy (1 Pet 1:13-16)
4. Jesus is your example who did no sin (1 Pet 2:21-22)
5. Cease from sin and do not live in the flesh (1 Pet 4:1-3)
6. Judgement will begin at the house of God and sinners (those breaking God’s 10 commandments) will not be saved.
7. God has given us his precious promises and as we believe them God will grant us his divine power to live a life of Godliness (obedience to God’s Law; 2 Pet 1:2-4)
8. The Un-Godly (disobedient to God’s Law) will be like Sodom and Gomorrah (2 Pet 2:6)
9. If any turn away from God’s Law and are in unrepentant sin breaking any of God’10 commandments they will be lost (2 Pet 2:20-22)
10 God is not willing that any should perish but that everyone should come to repentance and turn away from sin to follow God’s 10 commandments because those that do not will receive the judgements of God (2 Pet 3:5-14)
Well there you go seems like you missed a lot of scripture for someone that knows God's Word?
Now please show me where it says in God's Word that the 4th commandment is ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day? If you cannot shouldn't we believe God's Word over the teachings and traditions of man?
Sunday worship is a tradition of man that breaks the commandments of God (the fruit of love). Many have forsaken God's 4th commandment to follow Sunday worship. In times of ignorance God winks at but when a knowledge of the truth has come calls all men everywhere to repent and believe His Word.
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of man or the Word of God?. Jesus says if we follow the traditions of man over the Word of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
Who should we believe God or man?
Ok late my time friend I will chat latter look forward to your reply or your friends....
May God bless you as you seek him through His Word
You must of missed these about God's 10 commandments (includes the 4th commandment) in the NT?
What did Jesus and the Apostles teach about the Sabbath in the New Testament?
1. It is lawful to do good on the Sabbath (Matt 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56)
2. Jesus made the Sabbath for all mankind (Mark 2:27)
3. Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28)
4. If you do not believe and follow God you cannot enter His Sabbath rest (Hebrews 4)
5. It is one of God’s 10 commandments we break it we are guilty or breaking all (James 2:8-12)
6. Breaking it is sin (1 John 3:4)
7. God’s true followers keep it Holy as God commanded (Rev 14:12; Rev 22:14; Eze 20:20)
8. Jesus is our example and he kept the Sabbath (Matt 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56; John 2:6; Matt 16:24; 1 Cor 11:1; Eph 5:1-21; Pet 2:20-22)
9. The Apostles kept the Sabbath (Acts 13:14; 13:27; 13:44; 15:21; 16:13; 17:2; 18:4; Rev 1:10)
Sin is breaking any of God's commandments including the 4th commandment 7th day Sabbath (James 2:11; Romans 7:7; Romans 3:20; 1 John 3:4) James tells us if we break one of the ten we are guilty of breaking all of them (James 2:8-12)
Jesus taught the 10 commandments…..
1. Jesus kept God’s Law (10 commandments) and said the Law and the prophets would not pass away (Matt 5:17-18)
2. Jesus taught others to follow the 10 commandments (Mark 10:17-21)
3. Jesus taught that Love is the fulfilling (doing) of God’s Law (10 commandments Matt 22:36-40)
4. If we break God’s Law by following man-made traditions we are not following God (Matt 15:3-9)
5. Jesus says if we commit sin we are a servant of sin and he has come to free us from sin (John 8:32-36)
6. Jesus taught if you love God you will keep God’s Law and abide in His Love (John 14:15; 15:10
7. If anyone is breaking any of God’s commandments and teaching others to do so will be called least in the kingdom of heaven <least = lost> (Matt 5:19)
8. No one can obey God’s Law producing the fruit of obedience of ourselves and unless we abide in Jesus we can do nothing (John 15:4-10)
Paul affirms the Ten Commandments……
1. Paul teaches God's people keep the Sabbath Hebrews 4.
2. Paul tells gentiles that "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of GOD" 1 Cor 7:19
3. Paul tells gentiles "it is not the HEARERS of the Law that are just before God but the DOERS of the Law will be justified... on the day when according to my GOSPEL God will judge all mankind" Rom 2:13-16
4. Paul asks that gentiles consider the doctrine of LAW "Do we then make void the LAW of God by our faith? God forbid! In fact we establish the Law of God" Rom 3:31
5. Paul tells ALL Christians that it is only the lost who will "not subject themselves to the Law of God neither indeed CAN they" Rom 8:6-8
6 Paul reaches all Christians under the NEW Covenant that God's LAW as known in Jer 31:31-33 is "written on the heart and mind" Heb 8:7-11
7. Paul tells all Christians that the OT text is to be used for Doctrine 2Tim 3:16
AND He never claims that "if I did not write it -- it is not scripture for us today" -- as one or two have imagined for us.
8. Paul tells all Christians that the 5th commandment is the "FIRST commandment with a promise" Eph 6:1-2 and is binding on all Christians.
9. God's Law (10 commandments) are holy, just and good (Rom 7:12)
10. God's Law gives us a knowledge of what sin is (Rom 3:20; 7:7)
11. The penalty of breaking God's Law without Jesus is death (Rom 6:23)
12. If we break God's Law we dishonor God (Rom 2:23)
13. If we sin we are "under the Law" and guilty before God (Rom 3:19)
14. We are saved by faith but our faith establishes the Law in us (Rom 3:31)
15. If we are saved by grace we should not break God's Law (Rom 6:1-7)
16. We should not break God's Law if we are under grace (Rom 6:15)
17. We are to serve the Law of God through the mind because that is where sin starts (Rom 6:17; 7:25; 8:4; 12:2)
18. It is God's Law that brings us to Jesus (Gal 3:24)
19. God's salvation frees us from sin so we can be obedient to God's Law and live a life of holiness (Rom 6:22)
20. We will be judged by God's Law and only those that are obedient will be justified because of their faith (Rom 2:4-13)
21. God's Law can only be obeyed through love and a changed heart which comes by faith in God's Word (Rom 2:21-29; 13:9-10; Heb 8:9-10)
22. If we break God's Law and are in unrepentant sin we will be lost and will received God's judgements (Heb 10:26-27)
John affirms the 10 commandments……
1. John says it is only by keeping God’s 10 commandments that we know that we know God (1 John 2:3)
2. If someone says that they know God and do not keep God’s 10 commandments they are lying and not telling the truth (1 John 2:4)
3. We should purify ourselves as Jesus is pure (1 John 3:3)
4. Sin is the breaking of God’s 10 commandments (1 John 3:4)
5. Whoever is abiding in Christ does not commit sin (1 John 3:6; John 15:4-10)
6. If you are in unrepentant sin you have not seen Jesus or know him (1 John 3:6)
7. John warns us that only those that are obedience to God’s Law are his true followers (1 John 3:7)
8. If someone is committing unrepentant sin they are following the devil and not God (1 John 3:7)
9. If you are born of God and abiding in him you will not commit sin (1 John 3:9; 1 John 3:6; John 15:4-10
10. It is the keeping of God’s commandments that is the difference between those that are following God and those that are not following God (1 John 3:10; 1 John 5:3)
11. It is only by Love through faith that we can keep God’s commandments (1 John 5:3-4)
12. God’s true believers in the end days will keep all of God’s commandments through faith in Jesus (Rev 14:12; 22:14)
James also affirms the 10 commandments…….
1. James says God’s Law (10 commandments) are a Royal Law (James 2:8)
2. If we break one of God’s commandments we a guilty before God as sinners breaking all of God’s Law and gave some examples of breaking God’s Law (James 2:9-11)
3. James says God’s Law is a law of liberty and freedom (James 2:12)
4. The 10 commandments (God’s Law) are the standard in the judgment (James 2:12)
5. If our faith does not have the fruit of obedience to God’s Law it is dead and not true faith (James 2:16-26)
Peter affirms the 10 commandments……..
1. Sanctification is to obedience to God’s Law (1 Pet 1:2)
2. We can only be changed from sin to obedience to God’s Law by the power of God and it will be revealed in the last days (1 Pet 1:5)
3. We should give up our sins to be holy because Jesus is holy (1 Pet 1:13-16)
4. Jesus is your example who did no sin (1 Pet 2:21-22)
5. Cease from sin and do not live in the flesh (1 Pet 4:1-3)
6. Judgement will begin at the house of God and sinners (those breaking God’s 10 commandments) will not be saved.
7. God has given us his precious promises and as we believe them God will grant us his divine power to live a life of Godliness (obedience to God’s Law; 2 Pet 1:2-4)
8. The Un-Godly (disobedient to God’s Law) will be like Sodom and Gomorrah (2 Pet 2:6)
9. If any turn away from God’s Law and are in unrepentant sin breaking any of God’10 commandments they will be lost (2 Pet 2:20-22)
10 God is not willing that any should perish but that everyone should come to repentance and turn away from sin to follow God’s 10 commandments because those that do not will receive the judgements of God (2 Pet 3:5-14)
Well there you go seems like you missed a lot of scripture for someone that knows God's Word?
Now please show me where it says in God's Word that the 4th commandment is ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day? If you cannot shouldn't we believe God's Word over the teachings and traditions of man?
Sunday worship is a tradition of man that breaks the commandments of God (the fruit of love). Many have forsaken God's 4th commandment to follow Sunday worship. In times of ignorance God winks at but when a knowledge of the truth has come calls all men everywhere to repent and believe His Word.
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of man or the Word of God?. Jesus says if we follow the traditions of man over the Word of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
Who should we believe God or man?
Ok late my time friend I will chat latter look forward to your reply or your friends....
May God bless you as you seek him through His Word
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hizikyah , though I disagree with him, will answer questions. you on the other hand, just keep repeating the same Hebrew roots talking points.
so, can you have a back and forth dialog, or not?? can you give straight answers , or just keep rephrasing the same thing over and over??
and, one more time, the gentiles were never under the Torah, Israel only. why were there proselytes mentioned in the N.T.? why would gentiles convert to something they were already under?
so, can you have a back and forth dialog, or not?? can you give straight answers , or just keep rephrasing the same thing over and over??
and, one more time, the gentiles were never under the Torah, Israel only. why were there proselytes mentioned in the N.T.? why would gentiles convert to something they were already under?
Seventh Day Adventists deny what Colossians 2:16-17 says.
I would suggest getting a copy of the book Sabbath in Christ by Dale Ratzlaff. The most recent version of this book refutes the Seventh Day Adventist argument in regards to this.
Basically, SDAs try to claim that the word Sabbath in Colossians 2:16-17 is not referring to the weekly Sabbaths, but the festivals of Leviticus 23 or another annual observance. This is not exegetically possible.
There is a progression from annual, monthly, and weekly exhibited in Paul's words, and this progression is observed in the Old Testament in several places.
I would recommend this video by Dale Ratzlaff..it's a bit unpolished but he refers to the Scriptures I'm referencing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Es9xJutiwo
If anyone is troubled by the Sabbath issue, feel free to email me. I am a former Sabbathkeeper, associated with Armstrongism.
I would also recommend Meno Kalisher's book Freedom In Christ in this regard.
This issue involves a good understanding of the Mosaic Covenant and the New Covenant. I highly suggest that you don't allow Judaizers to be the ones who educate you on the difference between the two.
I have no issue with those who observe the Sabbath and festivals without accusing other Christians of being in sin for non-observance, but this accusatory nature, either explicitly or implicitly, accompanies the mentality.
Most of these Sabbathkeeping churches think they are the true faith, and that "Sunday observers" are part of Babylon. They are deceptive in their wording to avoid being exposed, but that is what they believe. For instance, the SDAs call themselves the "remnant church" and believe that non-Sabbathkeepers are "other sheep" that needed to be added to the true fold. And, they are the mild ones. Others simply deny the Christianity of non-Sabbathkeepers. That was the view of the Armstrongite group I was a part of.
I would suggest getting a copy of the book Sabbath in Christ by Dale Ratzlaff. The most recent version of this book refutes the Seventh Day Adventist argument in regards to this.
Basically, SDAs try to claim that the word Sabbath in Colossians 2:16-17 is not referring to the weekly Sabbaths, but the festivals of Leviticus 23 or another annual observance. This is not exegetically possible.
There is a progression from annual, monthly, and weekly exhibited in Paul's words, and this progression is observed in the Old Testament in several places.
I would recommend this video by Dale Ratzlaff..it's a bit unpolished but he refers to the Scriptures I'm referencing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Es9xJutiwo
If anyone is troubled by the Sabbath issue, feel free to email me. I am a former Sabbathkeeper, associated with Armstrongism.
I would also recommend Meno Kalisher's book Freedom In Christ in this regard.
This issue involves a good understanding of the Mosaic Covenant and the New Covenant. I highly suggest that you don't allow Judaizers to be the ones who educate you on the difference between the two.
I have no issue with those who observe the Sabbath and festivals without accusing other Christians of being in sin for non-observance, but this accusatory nature, either explicitly or implicitly, accompanies the mentality.
Most of these Sabbathkeeping churches think they are the true faith, and that "Sunday observers" are part of Babylon. They are deceptive in their wording to avoid being exposed, but that is what they believe. For instance, the SDAs call themselves the "remnant church" and believe that non-Sabbathkeepers are "other sheep" that needed to be added to the true fold. And, they are the mild ones. Others simply deny the Christianity of non-Sabbathkeepers. That was the view of the Armstrongite group I was a part of.
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Here's another video by Dale Ratzlaff that is helpful.
I don't agree with every single point Dale makes but the overall message is good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_zaWd0IAPM
I would also recommend a free subscription to Proclamation! magazine by Dale Ratzlaff's ministry "Life Assurance Ministries".
I am not a former Seventh Day Adventist but it is helpful in understanding the issues behind Judaism regardless.
This month, there is a long article by a young man who was formerly a Seventh Day Adventist. He left the church, and dissects their faulty theology in his "resignation letter". The criticisms may not make as much sense to a non-Adventist though.
Proclamation Magazine
You can read the PDF version of the current issue. The article from the young man starts on page 5. He addresses a wide variety of topics including their Great Controversy doctrine, Sabbath, sanctuary, investigative judgment, and other points.
http://lifeassuranceministries.org/2017_2ProclamationWEB.pdf
Thanks again for the videos and links! Brother Anderson was a member of the SDA Church for 33 years and was taught that the SDA church was the "remnant church" and was the one church entrusted with the "truth" for the last days. To his utter astonishment and amazement, when he began studying the Bible instead of Ellen White's books, he made the shocking discovery that SDA truth is different from Biblical truth.
The Truth about the Seventh-day Adventist Church
The Truth about the Seventh-day Adventist Church
because you have misquoted them
Show me one place that mentions the fourth commandment.
He did not once mention the need to observe the Sabbath,
LOL we ALL believe that. And on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday etc
The Sabbath law was declared by MOSES, so how could Jesus make it a thousand years later? Jesus declared it was made for MAN. It was to ensure rest for slaves.
precisely. But He never urged it on men for that reason. Its usefulness was finished,
that was what the Sabbath was pointing forward to. It was a shadow.
Where does James mention the TEN commandments. He mentioned commandments in general.
LOL he says lawlessness is sin. Think again.
The only verse which mentions Sabbaths is Ezekiel speaking to Israel. It was a sign to Israel until Messiah came.
more later.
Show me one place that mentions the fourth commandment.
He did not once mention the need to observe the Sabbath,
LOL we ALL believe that. And on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday etc
The Sabbath law was declared by MOSES, so how could Jesus make it a thousand years later? Jesus declared it was made for MAN. It was to ensure rest for slaves.
precisely. But He never urged it on men for that reason. Its usefulness was finished,
that was what the Sabbath was pointing forward to. It was a shadow.
Where does James mention the TEN commandments. He mentioned commandments in general.
LOL he says lawlessness is sin. Think again.
The only verse which mentions Sabbaths is Ezekiel speaking to Israel. It was a sign to Israel until Messiah came.
more later.