God gave the law about Circumcision.

[Inquisitor]

In 1 John 2:4, those who say that they know Jesus, but don't obey his commands are liars and the truth is not in them, in 1 John 3:4-6, those who continue to be doers of sin have neither seen nor known him, and in Matthew 7:23, Jesus said that he would tell those who are workers of lawlessness to depart from him because never knew them. In Matthew 4:15-23, Jesus began his ministry with the Gospel message to repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand, which was a light to the Gentiles, and God's law was how his audience knew what sin is (Romans 3:20), so repenting from our disobedience to it is a central part of the Gospel of the Kingdom. In Titus 2:14, Jesus gave himself to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people of his own possession who are zealous for doing good works, so the way to know Jesus, the way to believe in what he spent his ministry teaching by word and by example, and the way to believe in what he accomplished through the cross is by repenting and becoming zealous for doing good works in obedience to God's law (Acts 21:20).

There are two groups in the New Testament; Jews and Gentiles.

Israel was in a covenant based on the book of the law to obey the law.

Gentile nations were not included in that Old Covenant based on the book of the law.

Jesus was only sent to the Jews.

Your understanding of the context in the New Testament is incorrect.

 

[Soyeong]

There are two groups in the New Testament; Jews and Gentiles.

Israel was in a covenant based on the book of the law to obey the law.

Gentile nations were not included in that Old Covenant based on the book of the law.

Jesus was only sent to the Jews.

Your understanding of the context in the New Testament is incorrect.

Israel was given the role if being a light and a blessing to the nations by turning the nations from their wickedness and by teaching them to walk in God’s way in obedience to His law in accordance with the promise and with spreading the Gospel of the Kingdom, which is also the way that Gentiles are able to become joined to Israel through faith in the God of Israel. It would be contradictory for someone to want to become a follower of the God of Israel while not wanting to walk in His way or to want to become a follower of God’s word made flesh while not wanting to become a follower of God’s word. In Jeremiah 31:33, the New Covenant involves God putting His law in our minds and writing it on our hearts, so it would be contradictory for someone to want to become a member of the New Covenant while not wanting to follow God’s law. While Jesus’ ministry was focused on Jews, he commissioned his disciples to make disciples of all nations, teaching them everything that he taught them. It would be contradictory for someone to want to become a follower of Jesus while not wanting to follow his example of obedience to God’s law.

 

[Dino246]

Israel was given the role if being a light and a blessing to the nations by turning the nations from their wickedness and by teaching them to walk in God’s way in obedience to His law in accordance with the promise and with spreading the Gospel of the Kingdom, which is also the way that Gentiles are able to become joined to Israel through faith in the God of Israel. It would be contradictory for someone to want to become a follower of the God of Israel while not wanting to walk in His way or to want to become a follower of God’s word made flesh while not wanting to become a follower of God’s word. In Jeremiah 31:33, the New Covenant involves God putting His law in our minds and writing it on our hearts, so it would be contradictory for someone to want to become a member of the New Covenant while not wanting to follow God’s law. While Jesus’ ministry was focused on Jews, he commissioned his disciples to make disciples of all nations, teaching them everything that he taught them. It would be contradictory for someone to want to become a follower of Jesus while not wanting to follow his example of obedience to God’s law.

Please go and learn the meaning of “concise” and what a run-on sentence is. Apply the former and avoid the latter.

 

[Inquisitor]

Israel was given the role if being a light and a blessing to the nations by turning the nations from their wickedness and by teaching them to walk in God’s way in obedience to His law in accordance with the promise and with spreading the Gospel of the Kingdom, which is also the way that Gentiles are able to become joined to Israel through faith in the God of Israel. It would be contradictory for someone to want to become a follower of the God of Israel while not wanting to walk in His way or to want to become a follower of God’s word made flesh while not wanting to become a follower of God’s word. In Jeremiah 31:33, the New Covenant involves God putting His law in our minds and writing it on our hearts, so it would be contradictory for someone to want to become a member of the New Covenant while not wanting to follow God’s law. While Jesus’ ministry was focused on Jews, he commissioned his disciples to make disciples of all nations, teaching them everything that he taught them. It would be contradictory for someone to want to become a follower of Jesus while not wanting to follow his example of obedience to God’s law.

You have made an error.

God is not the God of Israel.

God created Adam and Eve before Israel even existed.

Israel was thousands of years later in history and so was the law of Moses.

Do you realize that there is no Jew or Greek in Christ?

 

[stilllearning]

You have made an error.

God is not the God of Israel.

God created Adam and Eve before Israel even existed.

Israel was thousands of years later in history and so was the law of Moses.

Do you realize that there is no Jew or Greek in Christ?

I agree there is no Jew or Greek because all are of Adam. Mankind only became sub categorized after the flood. It still has not changed the fact that all of humanity's prime category is Adam, man, or mankind. God created man and has always been the God and salvation of man. His plan has always been for man regardless of any sub category.

The plan from the start has always been come let us make man in our image. Why he says he is God and changes not and why we are not consumed. Because his plan has not changed his plan has always been to make us in his image, the image of Christ. Why 8 souls where saved from the flood as well as other places God spared mankind. Because his plan has never changed it is that we be in his image the image of Christ.

 

[Soyeong]

You have made an error.

God is not the God of Israel.

God created Adam and Eve before Israel even existed.

Israel was thousands of years later in history and so was the law of Moses.

Do you realize that there is no Jew or Greek in Christ?

It is just an identity marker like the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, though God did identity Himself as the God of Israel:

Isaiah 45:3 “I will give you the treasures of darkness and the hoards in secret places, that you may know that it is I, the Lord, the God of Israel, who call you by your name.”

The God of Israel has given instructions to Israel for how to know, love, glorify, believe in, and testify about Him by being His likeness through being a doer of His character traits by walking in His way, so anyone who wants to do those things will follow His instructions for how to do them. In 1 John 2:6, those who are in Christ are obligated to walk in the same way he walked, so those who are in Christ should follow his example of walking in God’s way regardless of whether they are a Jew or a Gentile.

 

[Dino246]

In 1 John 2:6, those who are in Christ are obligated to walk in the same way he walked, so those who are in Christ should follow his example of walking in God’s way regardless of whether they are a Jew or a Gentile.

So, given your position (bolded), do you believe that all male Christians must be physically circumcised in order to be saved?

 

[Inquisitor]

It is just an identity marker like the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, though God did identity Himself as the God of Israel:

Isaiah 45:3 “I will give you the treasures of darkness and the hoards in secret places, that you may know that it is I, the Lord, the God of Israel, who call you by your name.”

The God of Israel has given instructions to Israel for how to know, love, glorify, believe in, and testify about Him by being His likeness through being a doer of His character traits by walking in His way, so anyone who wants to do those things will follow His instructions for how to do them. In 1 John 2:6, those who are in Christ are obligated to walk in the same way he walked, so those who are in Christ should follow his example of walking in God’s way regardless of whether they are a Jew or a Gentile.

Gentiles are not under the law.

Gentiles are forbidden from being circumcised and forbidden from following the law.

Your interpretation is invalid, Soyeong.

 

[Soyeong]

Gentiles are not under the law.

Gentiles are forbidden from being circumcised and forbidden from following the law.

Your interpretation is invalid, Soyeong.

God is sovereign, so we are all under His law and are obligated to refrain from sin. If Gentiles weren't not under it, then Gentiles would have no need to repent from sin, no need of salvation, no need of grace, no need of the Gospel message, and no need of Jesus to have given himself to redeem us from all lawlessness.

It is important to recognize that the Bible can speak against doing something for an incorrect reason without speaking against doing it for the reasons for which God commanded it. If Paul had been speaking against circumcision for any reason, then according to Galatians 5:2, Paul caused Christ to be of no value to Timothy when he had him circumcised right after the Jerusalem Council and Christ is of no value to roughly 80% of the men in the US. In Acts 15:1, men from Judea were wanting to require Gentiles to become circumcised in order to become saved, however, that was never the reason for which God commanded circumcision, so the Jerusalem Council upheld God's law by correctly ruling against requiring circumcision for an incorrect reason. In Exodus 12:48, a Gentile who wanted to eat of the Passover lamb was required to become circumcised, so the Jerusalem Council should not be interpreted as ruling against Gentiles correctly acting in accordance with what God has instructed as if they had the authority to countermand God. I'm still waiting for you to show that my interpretation is invalid.

 

[Dino246]

God is sovereign, so we are all under His law and are obligated to refrain from sin. If Gentiles weren't not under it, then Gentiles would have no need to repent from sin, no need of salvation, no need of grace, no need of the Gospel message, and no need of Jesus to have given himself to redeem us from all lawlessness.

It is important to recognize that the Bible can speak against doing something for an incorrect reason without speaking against doing it for the reasons for which God commanded it. If Paul had been speaking against circumcision for any reason, then according to Galatians 5:2, Paul caused Christ to be of no value to Timothy when he had him circumcised right after the Jerusalem Council and Christ is of no value to roughly 80% of the men in the US. In Acts 15:1, men from Judea were wanting to require Gentiles to become circumcised in order to become saved, however, that was never the reason for which God commanded circumcision, so the Jerusalem Council upheld God's law by correctly ruling against requiring circumcision for an incorrect reason. In Exodus 12:48, a Gentile who wanted to eat of the Passover lamb was required to become circumcised, so the Jerusalem Council should not be interpreted as ruling against Gentiles correctly acting in accordance with what God has instructed as if they had the authority to countermand God. I'm still waiting for you to show that my interpretation is invalid.

Or, put more succinctly, “Blah blah blah.”

 

[TMS]

Gentiles are not under the law.

Gentiles are forbidden from being circumcised and forbidden from following the law.

Your interpretation is invalid, Soyeong.

If you look at the bible there is a distinction between the laws.
There are different laws that serve different purposes.

If you say all laws are invalid or you say Gentiles are forbidden from following all laws you have made a great mistake.

Paul clearly explains the way things are.

The Jews as a nation were no longer classed as God's people.

Act 21:20-21
20 And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law: 21 And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs.
Act 21:25 As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication.

Laws still applied.
Paul still promoted obedience to many laws.

Rom 3:9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;

What is sin? .... disobeying

Rom 3:29-31
29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also: 30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith. 31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Establish which law?

The law that was not nailed to the cross.
Rom 13:8-10
8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. 9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Jas 2:8-12
8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. 10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

According to scripture the royal law or the law of liberty is still valid, they should still be obeyed... motivated by love.

 

[Soyeong]

I'll leave this question open to everyone:

Should followers of the God of Israel walk in His way in accordance with the example that Christ set for us to follow?

 

[ocean]

I'll leave this question open to everyone:

Should followers of the God of Israel walk in His way in accordance with the example that Christ set for us to follow?

8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. Romans 8

My personal comment regarding those who desire to put Christians under obligation to OT law, is that they are actually not in tune with the Holy Spirit. The Bible refers to the law as a covenant of death.

There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death. Romans 8: 1-2

The law puts the focus on sin, which leads to death, but we are set free from following the law (which was never given to any other nation other than the Israelites) in Christ.


6 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.

10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.

11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.

13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.

14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.

18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.

20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.

21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.

22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.


If you are still trying to follow a law that emphasizes your sin with spiritual and finally physical death as your reward, you have no business to attempt any sort of instruction whatsoever unless you repent of your gross error and accept Christ as your Savior from this law and your inability to save yourself by what you do, rather than what Christ has accomplished on your behalf.

 

[ocean]

I'll leave this question open to everyone:

Should followers of the God of Israel walk in His way in accordance with the example that Christ set for us to follow?

The answer to this question, provided in length above in my other post, is that YES we should absolutely walk in the Way provided by God who is our God now and not only the God of Israel. The Way, is the Son of God, the Lord Jesus Christ.

14 “Let not your hearts be troubled. Believe in God; believe also in me. 2 In my Father's house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also. 4 And you know the way to where I am going.” 5 Thomas said to him, “Lord, we do not know where you are going. How can we know the way?” 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. From now on you do know him and have seen him John 14

 

[Inquisitor]

God is sovereign, so we are all under His law and are obligated to refrain from sin. If Gentiles weren't not under it, then Gentiles would have no need to repent from sin, no need of salvation, no need of grace, no need of the Gospel message, and no need of Jesus to have given himself to redeem us from all lawlessness.

It is important to recognize that the Bible can speak against doing something for an incorrect reason without speaking against doing it for the reasons for which God commanded it. If Paul had been speaking against circumcision for any reason, then according to Galatians 5:2, Paul caused Christ to be of no value to Timothy when he had him circumcised right after the Jerusalem Council and Christ is of no value to roughly 80% of the men in the US. In Acts 15:1, men from Judea were wanting to require Gentiles to become circumcised in order to become saved, however, that was never the reason for which God commanded circumcision, so the Jerusalem Council upheld God's law by correctly ruling against requiring circumcision for an incorrect reason. In Exodus 12:48, a Gentile who wanted to eat of the Passover lamb was required to become circumcised, so the Jerusalem Council should not be interpreted as ruling against Gentiles correctly acting in accordance with what God has instructed as if they had the authority to countermand God. I'm still waiting for you to show that my interpretation is invalid.

Paul wrote a letter to the Galatian church.

In that letter Paul was reacting to folk that had bewitched the Gentile Church.

Legalism had been introduced into the Galatian Church and Paul was warning against legal obedience.

Please read the following paragraph from Galatians 5.

18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law. 19 Now the deeds of the flesh are evident,
which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, 20 idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger,
disputes, dissensions, factions, 21 envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you,
just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness,
self-control; against such things there is no law.

Did you notice Paul did not mention the word, 'sin', but 'deeds of the flesh'?

There are many behaviors not mentioned in the law, drunkenness, strife, anger, etc?

Did you notice "fruit of the Spirit"?

Do you understand that paragraph above, Soyeong?

 

[Soyeong]

Paul wrote a letter to the Galatian church.

In that letter Paul was reacting to folk that had bewitched the Gentile Church.

Legalism had been introduced into the Galatian Church and Paul was warning against legal obedience.

All throughout the Bible, God wanted His children to repent and to return to obedience to His law and even Christ began his ministry with that Gospel message (Matthew 4:15-23), so it is absurd to interpret Galatians as Paul being opposed to repenting and believing the Gospel of Christ.

Please read the following paragraph from Galatians 5.

18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law. 19 Now the deeds of the flesh are evident,
which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, 20 idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger,
disputes, dissensions, factions, 21 envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you,
just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness,
self-control; against such things there is no law.

Did you notice Paul did not mention the word, 'sin', but 'deeds of the flesh'?

There are many behaviors not mentioned in the law, drunkenness, strife, anger, etc?

Did you notice "fruit of the Spirit"?

Do you understand that paragraph above, Soyeong?

Yes, I understand it. The Spirit is God, so it would be absurd to interpret Galatians 5:18 as referring to the Law of God as if we aren't led by God when we are being led by God. In Galatians 5:16-23, Paul contrasted the desires of the flesh with the desires of the Spirit and everything that he listed as works of the flesh that are against the Spirit are also against God's law while all of the fruits of the Spirit aspects of God's character that His law was given to teach us how to express. If we are under the Law of God, then we are obligated to refrain from doing what it reveals to be works of the flesh, but if we aren't under the Law of God, then we are free to do those things, so again it would be absurd to think that we are free to do what is contrary to the desires of the Spirit when we are led by the Spirit. In Galatians 5:16-18, Paul said that the desires of the flesh cause us not to do the good that we want to do, which is how he described his struggle with the law of sin in Romans 7, so that is the law that we aren't under when we are led by the Spirit. In Romans 8:4-7, Paul contrasted those who walk in the Spirit with those who have minds set on the flesh who are enemies of God who refuse to submit to the Law of God.

 

[TMS]

I'll leave this question open to everyone:

Should followers of the God of Israel walk in His way in accordance with the example that Christ set for us to follow?

Yes and no

Yes in everything moral and in all the character traits.
Love God and your neighbour the way Jesus did.

But what about the ceremonies and temple laws given to Israel as a shadow.
These laws were given to point them to Jesus and help us understand the plan of salvation.

Jesus followed these laws and some of them are impossible to follow today.

I no longer need to follow the passover service each year. Jesus is my passover.

But Jesus did say.
Mat 5:17-18
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
But Paul said...
Col 2:14-17
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
..16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

The ceremonial laws are different to the moral laws.
The shadow laws are nailed to the cross but the moral laws have not changed.

 

[TMS]

If you are still trying to follow a law that emphasizes your sin with spiritual and finally physical death as your reward, you have no business to attempt any sort of instruction whatsoever unless you repent of your gross error and accept Christ as your Savior from this law and your inability to save yourself by what you do, rather than what Christ has accomplished on your behalf.

It depends on the motive.
The does reveal sin. And sin is the cause of death not the law...

If you make the law the cause of death then I can understand your logic.

Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

Rom 7:12-14
12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. 13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful. 14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

The law reveals sin and sin = death.

Did God solve the problem by removing the law? If it was that simple, then why did Jesus die.

The problem was solved by Jesus paying the price that resulted from sin.

We are free from the law because the price was paid. Jesus gave His life. The law was not made void but the penalty was paid.

Does the law still reveal what sin is. Yes.
but Jesus's blood covers us.
Do we continue to ask Jesus for His blood and transgress the law?
Do we continue in sin that grace may abound.?

Rom 6:1-2
1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

If the law is not valid we have no worry of living in sin
No law = no sin... but Paul states we need be dead to sin

The law is not been changed but by grace we are freed from the penalty and condemnation of the law.

So my question is ....
Should you obey the law by grace
Or live in sin and transgress the law?

 

[Dino246]

I'll leave this question open to everyone:

Should followers of the God of Israel walk in His way in accordance with the example that Christ set for us to follow?

Answer my question first:

Do you believe that all male Christians must be physically circumcised in order to be saved?

 

[Inquisitor]

Yes and no

Yes in everything moral and in all the character traits.
Love God and your neighbour the way Jesus did.

But what about the ceremonies and temple laws given to Israel as a shadow.
These laws were given to point them to Jesus and help us understand the plan of salvation.

Jesus followed these laws and some of them are impossible to follow today.

I no longer need to follow the passover service each year. Jesus is my passover.

But Jesus did say.
Mat 5:17-18
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
But Paul said...
Col 2:14-17
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
..16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

The ceremonial laws are different to the moral laws.
The shadow laws are nailed to the cross but the moral laws have not changed.

On the other hand are you saying that Jesus did not fulfill the law?