Free Will - A More Exhaustive Look
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That is what I told you, but appears in your post as your quote. Have you done so?
Eph 1:4 is clear: before the world began. So what? Is it impossible for God to claim before the world began that "all believers are chosen to be holy and blameless"? Of course it isn't impossible for God to say that.
In fact, He DID say that; in Eph 1:4. The "us" in 'God chose us' is defined as "us who believe in 1:19. So the verse actually says that God chose believers.
Of course, God has always knows who would be born throughout all history. That's no problem for Him. And He has chosen all believers for service.
I don't know what you are asking?
Eph 1:4 is clear: before the world began. So what? Is it impossible for God to claim before the world began that "all believers are chosen to be holy and blameless"? Of course it isn't impossible for God to say that.
In fact, He DID say that; in Eph 1:4. The "us" in 'God chose us' is defined as "us who believe in 1:19. So the verse actually says that God chose believers.
Of course, God has always knows who would be born throughout all history. That's no problem for Him. And He has chosen all believers for service.
I don't know what you are asking?
Until a person experiences being Chosen by God, they'll NEVER understand.
John 15:16 NKJV - "You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit, and that your fruit should remain, that whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you."
It amazes me how MOST "christians" deny John 15:16.
John 15:16 NKJV - "You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit, and that your fruit should remain, that whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you."
It amazes me how MOST "christians" deny John 15:16.
John 9:39-41 NLT - "Then Jesus told him, "I entered this world to render judgment--to give sight to the blind and to show those who think they see that they are blind." Some Pharisees who were standing nearby heard him and asked, "Are you saying we're blind?" "If you were blind, you wouldn't be guilty," Jesus replied. "But you remain guilty because you claim you can see."
Nearly all "christians" fall under the type of people discussed in John 9:39-41. They don't realize that they are blind.
Nearly all "christians" fall under the type of people discussed in John 9:39-41. They don't realize that they are blind.
Are you sure that they didn't do so because it was written in the Heavenly Scroll of the Lord?
I find it amazing that NO ONE acknowledges this Scroll.
Isaiah 34:15-16 NIV - "The owl will nest there and lay eggs, she will hatch them, and care for her young under the shadow of her wings; there also the falcons will gather, each with its mate. 16 Look in the scroll of the LORD and read: None of these will be missing, not one will lack her mate. For it is his mouth that has given the order, and his Spirit will gather them together."
The Holy Spirit enforces what is in this Scroll that contains the Mysterious Plan of God.
I find it amazing that NO ONE acknowledges this Scroll.
Isaiah 34:15-16 NIV - "The owl will nest there and lay eggs, she will hatch them, and care for her young under the shadow of her wings; there also the falcons will gather, each with its mate. 16 Look in the scroll of the LORD and read: None of these will be missing, not one will lack her mate. For it is his mouth that has given the order, and his Spirit will gather them together."
The Holy Spirit enforces what is in this Scroll that contains the Mysterious Plan of God.
Yes, a gift that God has given you . . . not one that you chose. 
PS~ the cross of Christ is somewhat "hidden" in the upper left hand corner...
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All power and wisdom and honor and glory goes to God!
PS~ the cross of Christ is somewhat "hidden" in the upper left hand corner...
PS~ the cross of Christ is somewhat "hidden" in the upper left hand corner...
Tanakh: "God made all four of these young men intelligent and proficient in all writings and wisdom, and Daniel had understanding of visions and dreams of all kinds?"
As you say, all Glory goes to God!
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