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KJV1611 said:
I posted the verses in that post, both the KJV and the NASB, they preach two different resurrections.
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Could you provide me a link to said post, please?
 
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Magenta said:
Could you provide me a link to said post, please?
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All bible version are not equal and this is a prime example.

Daniel 12:2
King James Version
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.


Daniel 12:2
New American Standard Bible
2 And many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake, these to everlasting life, but the others to disgrace and everlasting [a]contempt.

In the KJV many that sleep in the ground shall awake. Of those that awake, some of them will be raised to eternal life and some to everlasting contempt.

In the NASB many that sleep in the ground shall awake. And those that awake will be raised to everlasting life but the others who didn't awake, they will be will be raised at ANOTHER TIME to everlasting contempt.

Two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT messages. Which one is right?
 
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KJV1611 said:
We need to get more out of the bible than just the message of salvation. There's tons of other things that we need to know as Christians.
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We know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth.
 
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KJV1611 said:
We need to get more out of the bible than just the message of salvation. There's tons of other things that we need to know as Christians.
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I agree...
The Lord is growing me well , He is my teacher , and He continues to grow me while I read my bible which is not the KJV...
 
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KJV1611 said:
All bible version are not equal and this is a prime example.

Daniel 12:2
King James Version
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.


Daniel 12:2
New American Standard Bible
2 And many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake, these to everlasting life, but the others to disgrace and everlasting [a]contempt.

In the KJV many that sleep in the ground shall awake. Of those that awake, some of them will be raised to eternal life and some to everlasting contempt.

In the NASB many that sleep in the ground shall awake. And those that awake will be raised to everlasting life but the others who didn't awake, they will be will be raised at ANOTHER TIME to everlasting contempt.

Two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT messages. Which one is right?
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They both say many will awake, some to one fate and others to the other fate.

If your quibble is that it is awkwardly worded, that is the very same problem many have with the KJV ;)
 
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Magenta said:
We know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth.
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The context of that verse is knowledge of the law, not knowledge of God and the kingdom.
 
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Magenta said:
They both say many will awake, some to one fate and others to the other fate.

If your quibble is that it is awkwardly worded, that is the very same problem many have with the KJV ;)
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You couldn't have read that post because I clearly pointed out the differences between the two.
 
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KJV1611 said:
You couldn't have read that post because I clearly pointed out the differences between the two.
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No, your explanation was lacking, due to pointing at something that does not exist.
 
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KJV1611 said:
It was a jab at the Jews who are puffed up over their knowledge of the law. Like that makes them better than others.
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Now about food sacrificed to idols: We know that “We all possess knowledge.” But knowledge puffs up while love builds up.
 
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KJV1611 said:
Ok do me a favor, in your words tell me what my argument was.
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You are saying the two versions say different things, making one clearly wrong.

But they both say many will awake, some to one fate and others to another fate.
 
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Magenta said:
You are saying the two versions say different things, making one clearly wrong.

But they both say many will awake, some to one fate and others to another fate.
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In the KJV many that sleep in the ground shall awake. Of those that awake, some of them will be raised to eternal life and some to everlasting contempt.

In the NASB many that sleep in the ground shall awake. And those that awake will be raised to everlasting life but the others who didn't awake, they will be will be raised at ANOTHER TIME to everlasting contempt.

The NASB has ALL of those who awake being raised to everlasting life.
The KJV has SOME of those awake being raised to everlasting life and SOME of them to everlasting contempt.

That isn't even close to saying the same thing.
 
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KJV1611 said:
Ok do me a favor, in your words tell me what my argument was.
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You also argue that the KJV is the only reliable Scripture translation while admitting at the same time that we do not have originals to authenticate reliability. That is what I have been trying to show you. So it is merely your preference, based on your opinion. That is not a bad thing. It just nullifies any claim to the KJV being somehow superior when there is no way to authenticate adherence to originals.
 
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KJV1611 said:
In the KJV many that sleep in the ground shall awake. Of those that awake, some of them will be raised to eternal life and some to everlasting contempt.

In the NASB many that sleep in the ground shall awake. And those that awake will be raised to everlasting life but the others who didn't awake, they will be will be raised at ANOTHER TIME to everlasting contempt.

The NASB has ALL of those who awake being raised to everlasting life.
The KJV has SOME of those awake being raised to everlasting life and SOME of them to everlasting contempt.

That isn't even close to saying the same thing.
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The NASB says, And many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake, these to everlasting life, but the others to disgrace and everlasting contempt. I do not see it saying what you claim it does. PS~ the dead are referred to as dead, even in resurrection.
 
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Magenta said:
The NASB says, And many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake, these to everlasting life, but the others to disgrace and everlasting contempt. I do not see it saying what you claim it does.
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The KJV says that some of them that ROSE were raised to eternal life and some of them that ROSE were raised to everlasting contempt.

The NASB says that ALL OF THEM THAT ROSE were raised to eternal life and the rest that DID NOT RISE were left in everlasting contempt.

I really don't understand why you can't see this. These two bibles are preaching two COMLETELY different resurrections.
 
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KJV1611 said:
The KJV says that some of them that ROSE were raised to eternal life and some of them that ROSE were raised to everlasting contempt.

The NASB says that ALL OF THEM THAT ROSE were raised to eternal life and the rest that DID NOT RISE were left in everlasting contempt.

I really don't understand why you can't see this. These two bibles are preaching two COMLETELY different resurrections.
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And many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake, these
to everlasting life, but the others to disgrace and everlasting contempt.

The word all is not there as you say.
 
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