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eternally-gratefull

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The reign of the Antichrist (iron Dan. 2) over Israel ends when Jerusalem is restored to Israel 1967.

But the Antichrist is not ended, only his power over Israel.

The Antichrist continues until he is destroyed by the coming of Jesus at the rapt/resur.

Israel is restored to Jerusalem, but the beast/Antichrist continues after that event.

They are 2 different events.
Antichrist is iron and clay, not iron, iron was Caesar.
 

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Hi All....
Does everyone know the next big event coming any day or year to our planet?
No, it's not Jesus coming back to reign for a thousand years.
It's the seven year peace plan.
You can lose your soul if you are deceived by the coming Antichrist.
Here is the best short video I have found explaining this end times prophecy in detail.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPRDpUvrldo

Have a great day! :)

I thought he was talking about the college football playoffs.
 
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Brother EG,

wrong, that kingdom has not yet come,
The kingdom came on Pentecost and has been on earth ever since.


Caesar was the legs of iron, not the toes.
The iron is one solid piece from the legs through the toes. Caesar is the legs and toes (BoR), the toes are just divided.


OT prophesy and paul says differently
Scripture please?

I believe and hope that Israel will accept Jesus as Savior. And I see scriptures that show that possibility, but then I see others that seem to say that they don't. I hope and pray that they do, that all will love Jesus as Savior.

I do believe this, that this is their last chance. Accept Jesus as the sacrifice for sin, as the Son of God, or Jerusalem will fall, and it will be the end of Israel and this planet. Rev 11, Rev 20:9.

wrong again, 70 ad is only part.. there are still war desolation’s going on and the abominationhas yet to occur.
The abomination was the image of Caesar in the temple.

The events described in Lk 21, Matt 24, etc., have already taken place.

To make what you want to come true, you must duplicate the conditions exactly as they were in 70 ad again.

Rebuild the temple again, start sacrificing again, Jerusalem is surrounded again, the people flee again, Jerusalem falls again, and then you must have the leader of the iron Roman beast, Caesar, stand in the rebuilt temple, and proclaim that Caesar is god again.

Exactly what happened in 70 ad, must happen again.

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But this time, when Jerusalem falls, it ends with Jesus coming for the kingdom at the 7th trumpet rapt/resur.
 

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Antichrist is iron and clay, not iron, iron was Caesar.
Brother EG,

The iron is Rome. Rome lasts until the stone strikes (It is still a nation/kingdom, but it has lost it's power over Israel by the time the stone strikes.)

If the iron is Caesar in the legs, then the iron is Caesar in the toes. Caesar is still here today and has been all this time.

The toes/horns get smaller, come to a point and end.

They do not come back together and unite again. That is he complete opposite of what the statue shows.

The clay is non Roman nations that rule Israel until they are restored to Jerusalem. They do not mix with Rome.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Brother EG,

Israel is in military control of Jerusalem.

They can and have recently stopped ALL access to the MT.

No foreign armies are there.

That is all that is required in Lk 21:24 for the ToG's to end.
I was just repeating what someone else used. Youy did not understand him either?
 
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Brother EG,



The kingdom came on Pentecost and has been on earth ever since.


The kingdom of Iron and Clay came on Pentecost?

Please!




The iron is one solid piece from the legs through the toes. Caesar is the legs and toes (BoR), the toes are just divided.
The ten toes are said to be ten kings. Please study.



Scripture please?
Wher4e do I start?

romans 11, Ezekiel 37 would be a good start.

I believe and hope that Israel will accept Jesus as Savior. And I see scriptures that show that possibility, but then I see others that seem to say that they don't. I hope and pray that they do, that all will love Jesus as Savior.

I do believe this, that this is their last chance. Accept Jesus as the sacrifice for sin, as the Son of God, or Jerusalem will fall, and it will be the end of Israel and this planet. Rev 11, Rev 20:9.
Paul said in rom 11 when the time of the gentile is complete. ALL ISREAL will be saved.

Ezek 37 says in that day, All isreal will repent, and be made one nation again.

Again, Study.



The abomination was the image of Caesar in the temple.
Never happened. And the great tribulation which is unlike any tribulation the world has ever seen will follow it/. A tribulation so severe, jesus will return or else all flesh would die.



The events described in Lk 21, Matt 24, etc., have already taken place.
No they have not, if they had, Jesus would have returned.

To make what you want to come true, you must duplicate the conditions exactly as they were in 70 ad again.

Rebuild the temple again, start sacrificing again, Jerusalem is surrounded again, the people flee again, Jerusalem falls again, and then you must have the leader of the iron Roman beast, Caesar, stand in the rebuilt temple, and proclaim that Caesar is god again.

Exactly what happened in 70 ad, must happen again.

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But this time, when Jerusalem falls, it ends with Jesus coming for the kingdom at the 7th trumpet rapt/resur.
70 AD was a picnic compared to ww1 and ww2. To make what you want to believe, 70 ad would be so severe. Nothing like it would ever occur on the earth again, And as jesus said, He would return because if he did not no flesh would survive, The flesh of earth was not threaded in 70 ad/.
 
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Brother EG,

The iron is Rome. Rome lasts until the stone strikes (It is still a nation/kingdom, but it has lost it's power over Israel by the time the stone strikes.)

If the iron is Caesar in the legs, then the iron is Caesar in the toes. Caesar is still here today and has been all this time.

The toes/horns get smaller, come to a point and end.

They do not come back together and unite again. That is he complete opposite of what the statue shows.

The clay is non Roman nations that rule Israel until they are restored to Jerusalem. They do not mix with Rome.
Yes, Iron is Rome,

Iron is clay is Rome reborn, stronger,. Yet weaker. 10 kings which came under 1 king.

Rome did not fit all the characteristics of the final gentile kingdom. Study all scriptures pertaining to it. Not even close.
 

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The kingdom of Iron and Clay came on Pentecost?

Please!


The kingdom of salvation came on the day of Pentecost, some call it the church.

The kingdom of iron came when Rome invaded Israel.

It is made clear that the iron does not mix with the clay in the statue, Daniel 2:43.




The ten toes are said to be ten kings.
Rome is completely divided, never to be reunified again.

The number 10 is symbolic of complete division.


Please study.
Thank you, I will.



Wher4e do I start?

romans 11, Ezekiel 37 would be a good start.
Rom 11:26, "all Israel", All Israel after the spirit, or all Israel after the flesh?

All Israel after the spirit, yes, but then those who are Israel after the flesh are not all Israel Rom 9:6, And so would not be saved.

That means that there will be some who do not obey the gospel. It won't be a "national" conversion, as in every single person in Israel.



Paul said in rom 11 when the time of the gentile is complete. ALL ISREAL will be saved.

Ezek 37 says in that day, All isreal will repent, and be made one nation again.

Again, Study.

Never happened. And the great tribulation which is unlike any tribulation the world has ever seen will follow it/.



A tribulation so severe, jesus will return or else all flesh would die.

1900 years of persecution on Israel by the Roman beast is the tribulation, Jacob's trouble.
It doesn't say that, It says that the time is cut short for the flesh elect.


No they have not, if they had, Jesus would have returned.
Jesus came at the dest of Jerusalem in 70 ad, but it wasn't a resurrection coming.

70 AD was a picnic compared to ww1 and ww2. To make what you want to believe, 70 ad would be so severe. Nothing like it would ever occur on the earth again, And as jesus said, He would return because if he did not no flesh would survive, The flesh of earth was not threaded in 70 ad/.

WW 1&2, were the end of the trib period, leading up to the restoration of Jerusalem.
 

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Yes, Iron is Rome,

Iron is clay is Rome reborn, stronger,. Yet weaker. 10 kings which came under 1 king.


When the Roman Empire fell in 476 ad, who was the king who was over the countries who once were the Roman Empire?

If we are still in the period of the legs, who is the iron legs right now?



Rome did not fit all the characteristics of the final gentile kingdom. Study all scriptures pertaining to it. Not even close.
There is no kingdom shown after the iron toes end, except the heavenly kingdom.

There is no kingdom shown after the 4th beast of Daniel 7.

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Who was the iron nation 500 years ago?

Who is the iron today, right now?
 
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The kingdom of Iron and Clay came on Pentecost?

Please!






The ten toes are said to be ten kings. Please study.





Wher4e do I start?

romans 11, Ezekiel 37 would be a good start.



Paul said in rom 11 when the time of the gentile is complete. ALL ISREAL will be saved.

Ezek 37 says in that day, All isreal will repent, and be made one nation again.

Again, Study.




Never happened. And the great tribulation which is unlike any tribulation the world has ever seen will follow it/. A tribulation so severe, jesus will return or else all flesh would die.





No they have not, if they had, Jesus would have returned.



70 AD was a picnic compared to ww1 and ww2. To make what you want to believe, 70 ad would be so severe. Nothing like it would ever occur on the earth again, And as jesus said, He would return because if he did not no flesh would survive, The flesh of earth was not threaded in 70 ad/.
Our Civil War had more casualties than all the rest of the wars the US has fought combined. Keep that in mind realizing that 70 AD was a picnic by comparison. Then there is Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
 
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DiscipleDave

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​Only one version of it. There are three other ones. Something you keep ignoring. Why???
lol, because only one is right.

If one is right, what point would there be to even mention or consider the others. Your 73 and don't know that?

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DiscipleDave

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He probably ignores the others because his version is accurate.
Please do not give me the credit for what is in the timeline. 95% of it, is what God told me. He deserves the credit for it, not me. Thanks.

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Hi, ComeLordJesus,

Don't you know, can't you see, that something is up right now?

First, Israel is restored to Jerusalem, the times of the gentiles (ToG's) trampling has ended. Lk 21:20-24, 24.

Israel and Jerusalem are surrounded by enemies.

The Roman iron dragon beast, is now sitting on the seat of the beast, Rome.

How long before the kings of the east (Iran), cross the Euphrates, and attack Jerusalem?

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If they never rebuild the temple, then the Antichrist cannot come. So just don't rebuild the temple.
The Temple is going to be rebuilt when the 7 year peace agreement is signed.

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abcdef

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The Temple is going to be rebuilt when the 7 year peace agreement is signed.

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DiscipleDave
The covenant confirmed is with God and Israel.

The 7 years began when Jesus began His ministry. The beginning of the 69th week, confirming the covenant.

When Israel rejected the gospel kingdom, that was the end of the covenant. The end of the confirmed covenant week.

The natural branches were broken off and the gentiles were brought in.

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The Antichrist has been here for 1900 years. You just don't see him.

He is the leader of the iron legs/toes nation, Rome and Caesar.
 

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Hi All....Does everyone know the next big event coming any day or year to our planet?
Yes. January 20th is National Penguin awareness day.

I hope you have prepared accordingly.

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Yes. January 20th is National Penguin awareness day.

I hope you have prepared accordingly.

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January 20th is Penguin Awareness Day, that day of the year when we all pause to reflect on how aware we are of penguins. Or something. Today is not - repeat, NOT - World Penguin Day, which, as everyone knows, is celebrated on April 25th.
 

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lol, because only one is right.

If one is right, what point would there be to even mention or consider the others. Your 73 and don't know that?

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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave
You seem to think that you know which one is correct. I think you should enlighten us why the other three are wrong. I challenged you about this but like atheists I confront about the 5 miracles of big bang evolution proving it false you ignore and just keep up your superior ego and don't deign to respond with facts. You just keep up your rejection of the centuries of theologians unable to pick which one is correct.

Your ego is overwhelming. Here are synonyms for your attitude.

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