End Times Question

[ComeLordJesus]

​Only one version of it. There are three other ones. Something you keep ignoring. Why???

He probably ignores the others because his version is accurate.

 

[abcdef]

We're gonna know something is up for sure when the temple in Jerusalem is rebuilt.

Hi, ComeLordJesus,

Don't you know, can't you see, that something is up right now?

First, Israel is restored to Jerusalem, the times of the gentiles (ToG's) trampling has ended. Lk 21:20-24, 24.

Israel and Jerusalem are surrounded by enemies.

The Roman iron dragon beast, is now sitting on the seat of the beast, Rome.

How long before the kings of the east (Iran), cross the Euphrates, and attack Jerusalem?

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If they never rebuild the temple, then the Antichrist cannot come. So just don't rebuild the temple.

 

[vincejohnson]

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[ComeLordJesus]

Hi, ComeLordJesus,

Don't you know, can't you see, that something is up right now?

First, Israel is restored to Jerusalem, the times of the gentiles (ToG's) trampling has ended. Lk 21:20-24, 24.

Israel and Jerusalem are surrounded by enemies.

The Roman iron dragon beast, is now sitting on the seat of the beast, Rome.

How long before the kings of the east (Iran), cross the Euphrates, and attack Jerusalem?

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If they never rebuild the temple, then the Antichrist cannot come. So just don't rebuild the temple.

I pretty much see the re-building of the temple as when the rubber is gonna hit the road.

 

[Endoscopy]

But you do not consider this.

Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

70 weeks are determined upon the nation of Israel to be in the truth,and to anoint the most Holy,who is Jesus.

Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

69 weeks have passed and nobody debates that,but many are in disagreement about the 70th week.

Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Verse 26 speaks of the prince to come who will be from the Roman Empire who destroyed the city and sanctuary,and verse 27 continues speaking of the prince to come that will confirm a covenant for 7 years.

Eze 39:25 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name;
Eze 39:26 After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made them afraid.
Eze 39:27 When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;
Eze 39:28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.
Eze 39:29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.
Eze 39:22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward.


God will bring back the captivity of Jacob,the whole house of Israel,and put them on their land,and leave none of them in the nations,and God will not hide His face from them anymore,and they will know the LORD their God from that day and forward,and be in the truth for evermore.

If this were a past prophesy then Israel would of been in the truth from that day and forward,and would be in the truth today,and if people say it is the Babylonian captivity,they would of been in the truth from that day and forward and would of never rejected Christ.

So it is a future event,and Israel has 70 weeks to get in the truth,and accept Jesus as their Messiah,but the nation of Israel has not done that yet,so the 70th week could of not been fulfilled.

Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

Israel is blinded in part,they accept the Old Testament for the most part,but not the New Testament,until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in,when salvation is no longer available to the Gentiles,and so all Israel shall be saved,for the gifts and calling of God are without repentance,for God called them and will always be with them,and one day restore the kingdom on earth to Israel,which the heathen will know that God was with them all along.

God has not cast away His people He once foreknew,and I am the LORD,I change not,therefore you sons of Jacob are not consumed,and if the sun,and moon,and stars,and the ordinances of heaven are still in affect,then Israel shall not cease from being a nation.

The 70th week could not of happened because Israel as a nation is not in the truth that Jesus is their Messiah.

The 7 years period is the time God causes all people that do not love Him to follow the beast kingdom,so He can end this sin business on earth,and bring Israel to the truth that Jesus is their Messiah,and restore the kingdom on earth to Israel,which God will make a full end of all nations,but will not make a full end of Israel.

The man of sin will establish peace in the Middle East,and it will pave the way for all Jews to go to Israel,and none of them will be left in the nations,and the Jews and the Gentiles will be separated.

The Jews will split Jerusalem with the Palestinians,and the Jews will rebuild their temple with no hassle from the Palestinians,and since the Jews are blinded in part will go by the Old Testament concerning their temple.

The Gentile nations will come together and say,Peace and safety,as they try to establish peace on earth.

The world will operate by the ten horn kingdom,the world split in to ten sections with a leader in each section for three and one half years,for a short space.

The ten horn kingdom failed at obtaining peace on earth,which the Bible says when they say Peace and safety then sudden destruction comes upon them,and they shall not escape.

The world will turn to the man of sin,the beast,New Age Christ,as the answer to achieve peace on earth,who will be a man understanding dark sentences,and things they have not heard before in peace for the world,and he will step in to the Jews temple,and claim to be God and their Messiah.

When the world takes the mark of the beast then repentance and salvation are no longer available to them,and the fulness of the Gentiles have come in.

God will then turn Israel to the truth that Jesus is their Messiah for three and one half years,and at the end of the 7 years period Israel as a nation is in the truth and the 70th week is fulfilled.

The beast and his army will attack Jerusale,and then Jesus will save them,and the kingdom on earth restored to the Jews,and so all Israel shall be saved.

Israel has 70 weeks to get in the truth that Jesus is their Messiah which they have not done yet,so the 70th week has not happened and is in the future.

Jesus said the Jews house is left unto them desolate until they say blessed is He that comes in the name of the Lord.

The first attack on Jerusalem by the Roman Empire,because they rejected Christ,and God allowed the attack.

The second attack on Jerusalem by the world,because they accepted Christ,and say blessed is He that comes in the name of the Lord,and God does not allow the attack,and saves Israel.

​Currently the nation of Israel is mostly secular. I have been there several times for work. One of the most popular fast food places serves pork sandwiches. While religious Jews have a significant impact they are in the minority.

 

[Endoscopy]

Hi, ComeLordJesus,

Don't you know, can't you see, that something is up right now?

First, Israel is restored to Jerusalem, the times of the gentiles (ToG's) trampling has ended. Lk 21:20-24, 24.

Israel and Jerusalem are surrounded by enemies.

The Roman iron dragon beast, is now sitting on the seat of the beast, Rome.

How long before the kings of the east (Iran), cross the Euphrates, and attack Jerusalem?

-----

If they never rebuild the temple, then the Antichrist cannot come. So just don't rebuild the temple.

That is foolish. What God ordains will come to pass. Fight against it all you want and you will fail.

 

[abcdef]

I pretty much see the re-building of the temple as when the rubber is gonna hit the road.

CLJesus,

What makes you think, that the temple will ever be rebuilt?

Is is necessary, to rebuild the temple, so that prophecy will come true?

Is it necessary for the temple to be rebuilt, so the rapt/resurrection will happen?

Does it mean, that Jesus cannot come for the kingdom until all of those prophetic conditions are met?

Could we prevent Jesus from coming for the kingdom, and the Antichrist from coming, just by not allowing the temple to be rebuilt?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

CLJesus,

What makes you think, that the temple will ever be rebuilt?

Is is necessary, to rebuild the temple, so that prophecy will come true?

Is it necessary for the temple to be rebuilt, so the rapt/resurrection will happen?

Does it mean, that Jesus cannot come for the kingdom until all of those prophetic conditions are met?

Could we prevent Jesus from coming for the kingdom, and the Antichrist from coming, just by not allowing the temple to be rebuilt?

If the temple is not rebuilt. there will never be an abomination of desolation that starts the last 3 1/2 years of the great tribulation Jesus spoke of in Matt 24.

of course,, it will not prevent anything, because God knows what is going to happen, and he is 100 % accurate. so there is no question.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Hi, ComeLordJesus,

Don't you know, can't you see, that something is up right now?

First, Israel is restored to Jerusalem, the times of the gentiles (ToG's) trampling has ended. Lk 21:20-24, 24.

Israel and Jerusalem are surrounded by enemies.

The Roman iron dragon beast, is now sitting on the seat of the beast, Rome.

How long before the kings of the east (Iran), cross the Euphrates, and attack Jerusalem?

-----

If they never rebuild the temple, then the Antichrist cannot come. So just don't rebuild the temple.

Jerusalem is still being trampled. The dome of the rock and all the palestinians prove this And everyone is afraid of starting ww3 by allowing Isreal to completely take jerusalem, all we have to do is look at the response to what trump did to prove this.

 

[Chester]

Your eschatology is confused. There are 4 seperate Biblical views of eschatology. Jesus said no man knows when it will happen but only the Father. At 73 I have seen several attempt to make a date for it to happen when I was a teenager and later. Those dates and times are past so Jesus was correct. I turn a deaf ear to any pronouncement about even a general time. Too many have come and gone!!!

So if someone said Jesus is coming soon would you listen?

Or is that too specific a prediction to make?

 

[ComeLordJesus]

CLJesus,

What makes you think, that the temple will ever be rebuilt?

Is is necessary, to rebuild the temple, so that prophecy will come true?

Is it necessary for the temple to be rebuilt, so the rapt/resurrection will happen?

Does it mean, that Jesus cannot come for the kingdom until all of those prophetic conditions are met?

Could we prevent Jesus from coming for the kingdom, and the Antichrist from coming, just by not allowing the temple to be rebuilt?

Daniel's prophecy 9:27 will be fulfilled and yes the temple has to be re-built for 2Thess. 2:4 to happen.

 

[abcdef]

Jerusalem is still being trampled. The dome of the rock and all the palestinians prove this And everyone is afraid of starting ww3 by allowing Isreal to completely take jerusalem, all we have to do is look at the response to what trump did to prove this.

Brother EG,

Israel is in military control of Jerusalem.

They can and have recently stopped ALL access to the MT.

No foreign armies are there.

That is all that is required in Lk 21:24 for the ToG's to end.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Brother EG,

Israel is in military control of Jerusalem.

They can and have recently stopped ALL access to the MT.

No foreign armies are there.

That is all that is required in Lk 21:24 for the ToG's to end.

You forgot one major issue, Daniel determines the TOG's and according to daniel, TOG will end when JESUS crushes the statue, destroys the final beast etc etc.

Jesus has not come yet, Israel has not repented yet.

It does not matter if the army did what you said, the fact the dome of the rock is there is all we need.

Your also forgetting dan 9, it is not yet fulfilled.

 

[abcdef]

Daniel's prophecy 9:27 will be fulfilled and yes the temple has to be re-built for 2Thess. 2:4 to happen.

ClJesus,

It was revealed at the dest of Jerusalem that Caesar was the head of the iron beast nation.

Caesar is the Antichrist.

The Antichrist/Caesar that is destroyed by His coming, is the Beast the ascends from the abyss, Caesar and Rome return.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

ClJesus,

It was revealed at the dest of Jerusalem that Caesar was the head of the iron beast nation.

Caesar is the Antichrist.

The Antichrist/Caesar that is destroyed by His coming, is the Beast the ascends from the abyss, Caesar and Rome return.

Which proves TOG is still active

 

[ComeLordJesus]

Hello ComeLordJesus,

You keep calling the Jews "Israel." What makes you so sure? Judah is only a part of Israel. Like all bears are mammals, but not all mammals are bears. Think about it.

Yours,

Deade

Not quite sure what your point is since Jew and Israel has been used interpositionally throughout the Bible. For instance Paul said:

"I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia." Acts 22:a and then he says:

"Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock f Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin" Philippians 3:5a

So you see Paul identified with being a Jew and of Israel.

 

[abcdef]

Which proves TOG is still active

The reign of the Antichrist (iron Dan. 2) over Israel ends when Jerusalem is restored to Israel 1967.

But the Antichrist is not ended, only his power over Israel.

The Antichrist continues until he is destroyed by the coming of Jesus at the rapt/resur.

Israel is restored to Jerusalem, but the beast/Antichrist continues after that event.

They are 2 different events.

 

[abcdef]

You forgot one major issue, Daniel determines the TOG's and according to daniel, TOG will end when JESUS crushes the statue, destroys the final beast etc etc.

The statue has ended, the toes/horns have ended their power over Israel. The statue is now waiting for the stone to strike. The stone striking is not Jesus establishing the kingdom, it is Jesus coming for the kingdom at the last trumpet rapt/resur.

Jesus has not come yet, Israel has not repented yet.

It appears that Israel as a nation will not accept Jesus as Messiah.

It does not matter if the army did what you said, the fact the dome of the rock is there is all we need.

Are you making up requirements in addition to scripture? All that is required by Lk 21:24 is that Israel control the city. The dome is under the control of the military and NO other nation controls it. Israel allows people there, with permission.

Your also forgetting dan 9, it is not yet fulfilled.

Already fulfilled in 70 ad.

 

[Endoscopy]

So if someone said Jesus is coming soon would you listen?

Or is that too specific a prediction to make?

Quibbling. Read what I stated.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

The statue has ended, the toes/horns have ended their power over Israel. The statue is now waiting for the stone to strike. The stone striking is not Jesus establishing the kingdom, it is Jesus coming for the kingdom at the last trumpet rapt/resur.

wrong, that kingdom has not yet come, Caesar was the legs of iron, not the toes.

It appears that Israel as a nation will not accept Jesus as Messiah.

OT prophesy and paul says differently

Are you making up requirements in addition to scripture? All that is required by Lk 21:24 is that Israel control the city. The dome is under the control of the military and NO other nation controls it. Israel allows people there, with permission.

there is one condition, when christ returns. Period

Already fulfilled in 70 ad

wrong again, 70 ad is only part.. there are still war desolation’s going on and the abominationhas yet to occur.