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John146

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John 10:16
I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.

Are not the other sheep ( us )...Gentiles...
...xox...
Not referring to Gentiles, but the remnant of Jews during Jacob's trouble.
 

John146

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The Bible teaches Omniscience.

How does God prophecy things before they come to pass?
God has determined certain things to come to pass and there is nothing that can be done about it. That's prophecy. God has not determined everything to come to pass.
 
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Yes, just as we were once dead, being in Adam, we have been made alive in Christ through faith, having been called of God through the Gospel unto salvation.
You left out a key word; all.
 

throughfaith

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John 10:16
I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.

Are not the other sheep ( us )...Gentiles...
...xox...
That's still referring to the Jews . We come in when Jesus prays for those that will believe because of their preaching . John 17 . Jesus Then prays for the world .
 

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That's still referring to the Jews . We come in when Jesus prays for those that will believe because of their preaching . John 17 . Jesus Then prays for the world .
This refers to Gentiles , who will hear His voice , and respond and become part of His church...
 

Truth7t7

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I'm an evangelist , I speak the truth in love to every cult , false religion and everyone who will listen . We should all hate false doctrine.
I do hate false doctrine, dispensationalism's (Pre-Trib) rapture and (Dual Covenant) theology would be on the list.
 

OIC1965

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God has determined certain things to come to pass and there is nothing that can be done about it. That's prophecy. God has not determined everything to come to pass.
In this sense He has.

God has determined to allow some things

God has determined to restrain some things

God has determined to cause some things.

Nothing happens outside God’s Sovereignty.
 

OIC1965

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Because there was no body yet. Christ had not died. Christ had to die and be resurrected first.
John wrote three epistles and the Revelation of Jesus Christ as well as his gospel.
 

throughfaith

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I do hate false doctrine, dispensationalism's (Pre-Trib) rapture and (Dual Covenant) theology would be on the list.
See what you did there . I don't see anything negative about what I'm saying . I believe the Gospel is good news . literally .
 

OIC1965

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Didn't Jesus speak out strongly against false teachers and false teaching ? And Paul ? And Peter ? And ......
Didn't Jesus speak out strongly against false teachers and false teaching ? And Paul ? And Peter ? And ......
But you are reading Calvinism into everything except your views. Everyone here who disagrees with you on something is a Calvinist in part or in whole.

There are actually relatively few people that are truly Calvinists. Western Christianity is very humanistic.
 
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Didn't Jesus speak out strongly against false teachers and false teaching ? And Paul ? And Peter ? And ......
That’s not the issue
the issue is your hate has you false accusing and misinterpreting what others believe
Jesus did not go around misrepresenting other people like you are
 

throughfaith

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But you are reading Calvinism into everything except your views. Everyone who disagrees with you on something is a Calvinist in part or in whole.
Well until the forth century ( Augustine) we didn't really have this problem.