Does Rom 5:18 teach that Christ died for all men without exception ?

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Rom 5:18

18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

No by no means does Rom 5:18 teach that Christ died for all without exception, just because the word all is used. In fact, to the spiritually discerning it teaches the contrary, it teaches the limited atonement, or that Christ did not die for all men without exception, simply because the all men here that Justification of life came upon is limited to only some men, so the word all can only apply to all that received upon them Justification of life.

For its clear from other scripture that all men without exception are Justified before God, for instance Matt 5:45

45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

Acts 24:15

And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.

1 Cor 6:1

Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?

2 Pet 2:9

9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:

Rev 22:11

11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

Now the word unjust does mean being found guilty before God, in Gods court of law,

describes being found guilty in God's court of law, i.e. as a binding, legal infraction against His law which calls for divine retribution,
unjust, unrighteous, wicked.of one who breaks God's laws, unrighteous, sinful,

So basically its one God reckons guilty before Him as a law beaker.
"No by no means does Rom 5:18 teach that Christ died for all without exception, just because the word all is used." !!!

Folks need to learn semantics before they attempt hermeneutics!
 

brightfame52

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What you man.
God's Word specifically states:

Romans 5:17-18 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive [Greek = lambanō] abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ. ) Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

your so-called "elect" were/are/will be under condemnation just like all descendants of Adam until they by faith lambanō (actively lay hold of to take or receive, to lay hold by aggressively (actively) accepting what is available).

However, you deny the plain truth of Scripture in holding to your erroneous dogma by which you claim:



Faith is what actively lays hold of that which God in His grace and mercy gifts to mankind. Those who do not lay hold are the ones who remain under condemnation.

Romans 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ
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The elect and the elects surety, Christ cannot both be under the same condemnation, that's injustice