Does God love everyone?

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oyster67

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Does God love everyone?


He said He did...

John
3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
 
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#23
For God so loved "The World..."

God has absolute love for His creation, and absolute love for what He knows His creation is capable of. However, God can't love those who deny Him and refuse to repent.
 
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Oblio

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#24
One has to receive His love. It's there for all who will take it...through Jesus. And we don't have to jump through any hoops or get it together first. He'll clean us up. Though we do need to cooperate with Him through the process of repentance.
 

oyster67

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Psalm 11:5
King James Version


5 The Lord trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.
Are we going to base our doctrine on one of David's imprecatory Psalms, or are we going to focus on what Jesus said??

I am tempted to question what your true agenda is.

We know the truth. No need to phart around with The Word of God.
 
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Are we going to base our doctrine on one of David's imprecatory Psalms, or are we going to focus on what Jesus said??

I am tempted to question what your true agenda is.

We know the truth. No need to phart around with The Word of God.
Ummmm.... What do you believe Jesus said?
 

Pilgrimshope

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For God so loved "The World..."

God has absolute love for His creation, and absolute love for what He knows His creation is capable of. However, God can't love those who deny Him and refuse to repent.
Amen Love is mutual‬‬
 

oyster67

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Ummmm.... What do you believe Jesus said?
Does God love everyone?


He said He did...

John
3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
 
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#29
Then... What's the point of judgment?
 
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Oblio

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" 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth." - 1 Timothy 2:4
 
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Matthew 22

1Jesus spoke to them again in parables, saying: 2“The kingdom of heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding banquet for his son. 3He sent his servants to those who had been invited to the banquet to tell them to come, but they refused to come.

4“Then he sent some more servants and said, ‘Tell those who have been invited that I have prepared my dinner: My oxen and fattened cattle have been butchered, and everything is ready. Come to the wedding banquet.’

5“But they paid no attention and went off—one to his field, another to his business. 6The rest seized his servants, mistreated them and killed them. 7The king was enraged. He sent his army and destroyed those murderers and burned their city.

8“Then he said to his servants, ‘The wedding banquet is ready, but those I invited did not deserve to come. 9So go to the street corners and invite to the banquet anyone you find.’ 10So the servants went out into the streets and gathered all the people they could find, the bad as well as the good, and the wedding hall was filled with guests.

11“But when the king came in to see the guests, he noticed a man there who was not wearing wedding clothes. 12He asked, ‘How did you get in here without wedding clothes, friend?’ The man was speechless.

13“Then the king told the attendants, ‘Tie him hand and foot, and throw him outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’

14“For many are invited, but few are chosen.”
 
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Oblio

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The invitation is to all, though as we all know, not all will come.
 

oyster67

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Then... What's the point of judgment?
Hebrews 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

For God so loved us, that He provided a way. He did so because we needed one. It is we who wander and stray and rebel and refuse to come home. It is we who damn ourselves to Hell. Don't try to paint my Precious Lord Jesus black...

Luke
15:11 And he said, A certain man had two sons:
15:12 And the younger of them said to [his] father, Father, give me the portion of goods that falleth [to me]. And he divided unto them [his] living.
15:13 And not many days after the younger son gathered all together, and took his journey into a far country, and there wasted his substance with riotous living.
15:14 And when he had spent all, there arose a mighty famine in that land; and he began to be in want.
15:15 And he went and joined himself to a citizen of that country; and he sent him into his fields to feed swine.
15:16 And he would fain have filled his belly with the husks that the swine did eat: and no man gave unto him.
15:17 And when he came to himself, he said, How many hired servants of my father's have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger!
15:18 I will arise and go to my father, and will say unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and before thee,
15:19 And am no more worthy to be called thy son: make me as one of thy hired servants.
15:20 And he arose, and came to his father. But when he was yet a great way off, his father saw him, and had compassion, and ran, and fell on his neck, and kissed him.

Did the Father ever stop loving him? If the young man had died in the pig pen, would you say it was because the Father had stopped loving him? Jesus died on the Cross for us, yet we still have the audacity to question His love! :rolleyes:

2 Peter
3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
3:11 [Seeing] then [that] all these things shall be dissolved, what manner [of persons] ought ye to be in [all] holy conversation and godliness,
3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
3:14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
3:15 And account [that] the longsuffering of our Lord [is] salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
 
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Oblio

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I never get tired of that story...it is my story...and when I walked into that church and went up for prayer...I met my Father!
 
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#35
Now I'm leaking all over my supper! Lol
 

Charlie24

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Recently I had listened to an older video of R.C. Sproul and a lecture he had given on this topic. Is it Biblical to tell all people that God loves them? In R.C.’s conclusion, the answer would be yes and no. He breaks down this notion of divine love into three parts:

Benevolent: God’s good will towards His creation

Beneficence: God shows provision for people by giving things that we all benefit from in order to survive

Complacency: This not to be confused with how the word is used today, but instead it is the love the Father has for the Son and to those who have been given to Him (The Elect)

I do think this is accurate assessment given what scripture has revealed to us. I just want to get other Believer’s opinion of the matter. Is R.C. missing the mark on this one? Is he correct? Please let me know
(Also, this not an in-depth analysis of the topic, but rather a summary of what he did allude to)
I would say he gave you a very accurate account of the love of God!

The scripture says, "for God so loved the world that he gave.........."

The scripture says that God sends the rain (positive not neg.) on the just and unjust.

God is angry with sin and hates it, but he loves man that He has created in His own image.

I really like the Complacency Statement, dead on the money, imo.

It is what Christ has done that all these blessings are given!
 

Webers.Home

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There's a couple of Greek words for love in the Bible. One denotes fraternal
affection, bonding, and fondness while the other does not.

For example the "does not" word is in John 3:16, which tells me that God
feels sorry for people but doesn't say anything about His opinion of them as
a person.

That same word is used in Christ's command to love one's enemies; which
means we don't especially have to like them: we only have to be civil and
humane with them.
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Oblio

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#38
My Father likes me...He tells me so...He thinks I'm funny...He likes spending time with me...He thinks I'm special! I love Him!
I remember the day I met Him. I had messed up the life that He'd given me and as I drove to an unknown church I was trying to get my story straight...why I kept sleeping with that woman...why I abused all those drugs...why I called Him a liar and kicked Him out of my life.
Why I ended up such a broken mess. I didn't know if He would take me back. Later at church I tried to be the last person prayed for, but they did things differently and out of several hundred, I was the first person to get prayed for.
I was overwhelmed with powerful visions from God...but the last one was the one that mattered the most to me...my Father met me. He let me know that He knew everything about me and still accepted me completely and loved me unconditionally.
The only reason I can think of why is because of what Jesus did...who would do that to His own son for someone like me? Yahweh is His name!
He...is...faithful! Hallelujah!
 
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Matthew 7

21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

"I NEVER KNEW YOU..."
 
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John 6

35And Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst. 36But I said to you that you have seen Me and yet do not believe. 37All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will [f]by no means cast out. 38For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. 40And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”

"All that the Father gives Me..."