Does God desire the salvation of all mankind?

[ForestGreenCook]

And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;

but he that

I am not insinuating anything. I am informing you that...

"if you have not asked Jesus to come into your heart and save your wicked soul, then you are bound for Hell, my friend."

If the above wording upsets some of you, then:

"If you have not called upon the name of the Lord and repented of your sins, then you are bound for Hell, my friend."

I am here to speak the Truth. If that aggravates you, then you need to figure out why.

Your false theory is a perfect example of eternal salvation accomplished by your works. You are one of the lost sheep of the house of Israel, of whom the remnant of the house of Israel are instructed to teach you a knowledge of the righteousness of God, and to repent of believing in the old law of works for your eternal salvation.

You have not lost your eternal inheritance, but you have lost your fellowship with your God, until you repent of belittling God, claiming that his will is to eternally save all mankind, but that he doesn't have the power over mankind's will to resist him (Dan 4:35).

You do not speak the truth, because you are blinded to see it.

 

[ForestGreenCook]

Only after that person opens the door of their heart and repents of their sins. Have you done this?

God has exchanged your heart of stone to a fleshy heart, giving you the promise of an eternal inheritance, but you have turned away from your God, and started to worshiping yourself as an idol, believing your good works are responsible for your eternal inheritance, taking glory and honor away from from your God, and because of this God has blinded your eyes to the truth, until you repent.

By Jesus doctrine, you have not lost your eternal inheritance, as you claim that I have, but you have lost your fellowship with your God, until you repent. Can you not see how much more comforting Jesus doctrine is over your false doctrine?

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Your false theory is a perfect example of eternal salvation accomplished by your works. You are one of the lost sheep of the house of Israel, of whom the remnant of the house of Israel are instructed to teach you a knowledge of the righteousness of God, and to repent of believing in the old law of works for your eternal salvation.

You have not lost your eternal inheritance, but you have lost your fellowship with your God, until you repent of belittling God, claiming that his will is to eternally save all mankind, but that he doesn't have the power over mankind's will to resist him (Dan 4:35).

You do not speak the truth, because you are blinded to see it.

you have some of the most odd posts friend when all else fails though his arms are always open to receive us when we get real

“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
‭‭John‬ ‭14:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

[ForestGreenCook]

If you don’t have faith in Jesus Christ, you don’t have eternal life, regardless of Jesus’ faithfulness in going to the cross.

If you are not born again spiritually, you do not have eternal life, nor do you have spiritual faith, because faith is a fruit of the Holy Spirit (Gal 5:22) that indwels the born again person.

 

[ForestGreenCook]

Actually Jesus died for an elect multitude, no man can number.

Amen.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

God has exchanged your heart of stone to a fleshy heart, giving you the promise of an eternal inheritance, but you have turned away from your God, and started to worshiping yourself as an idol, believing your good works are responsible for your eternal inheritance, taking glory and honor away from from your God, and because of this God has blinded your eyes to the truth, until you repent.

By Jesus doctrine, you have not lost your eternal inheritance, as you claim that I have, but you have lost your fellowship with your God, until you repent. Can you not see how much more comforting Jesus doctrine is over your false doctrine?

no one has lost anything unless we refuse to repent and believe Jesus that’s the only condemnation that exists to reject the lords word of life

Repent and believe this word of you believe in Jesus why wouldn’t you ?

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

hearing means to hear and accept though not to physically hear it and then reject it that is the only way to not receive his promise , because it’s his words th at make the promises of eternal life like the one above

 

[ForestGreenCook]

you have some of the most odd posts friend when all else fails though his arms are always open to receive us when we get real

“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
‭‭John‬ ‭14:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I realise that God has blinded your eyes to see, and understand the truth, but you have quoted a scripture that is in direct contrast to your salvation by works theory.

Rom 1:7 - The saints in Rome were "called" to be saints. They didn't become saints by their choosing. also in 1 Cor 1:2.

Rom 8:28 - Them that love God, are called according to his purpose.

Rom 8:30 - Those that were conformed to the image of his Son, were predestinated, called, justified, and glorified.

Rom 9:24 - Even us, whom he hath called.

1 Cor 1:26-31 - Not many wise, or noble, or mighty are called. He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord (not in himself)

 

[Cameron143]

It's the age old argument, which came first...regeneration or faith.

It's a worthwhile argument as long as the debate remains about scripture and doesn't become personal.

Either way, eternal life isn't predicated on the knowledge of its outworking.

 

[Snacks]

If you are not born again spiritually, you do not have eternal life, nor do you have spiritual faith, because faith is a fruit of the Holy Spirit (Gal 5:22) that indwels the born again person.

I agree. Hearing the Word and responding freely and faithfully to the gift of faith afforded to everyone brings forth eternal life to those who believe in Him.

 

[ForestGreenCook]

no one has lost anything unless we refuse to repent and believe Jesus that’s the only condemnation that exists to reject the lords word of life

Repent and believe this word of you believe in Jesus why wouldn’t you ?

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

hearing means to hear and accept though not to physically hear it and then reject it that is the only way to not receive his promise , because it’s his words th at make the promises of eternal life like the one above

That is why I am telling you to repent, because you have rejected the Lord's word, in believing that he taught eternal salvation is accomplished by your good works.


Those "that hear and accept" are his sheep who are already born again (John 10:25-29)

 

[ForestGreenCook]

It's the age old argument, which came first...regeneration or faith.

It's a worthwhile argument as long as the debate remains about scripture and doesn't become personal.

Either way, eternal life isn't predicated on the knowledge of its outworking.

That is true, God has saved you whether you believe it or not.

 

[GRACE_ambassador]

It's the age old argument, which came first...regeneration or faith.

It's a worthwhile argument as long as the debate remains about scripture and doesn't become personal.

I guess for me then, personally, I have never debated this, because, in my case,
they Both Occurred 'simultaneously' Praise God!

 

[Snacks]

Either way, eternal life isn't predicated on the knowledge of its outworking.

Good morning brother. Can you clarify what you mean by the above statement?

 

[Snacks]

I realise that God has blinded your eyes to see

Bwahahahahaha 😆

 

[ForestGreenCook]

I guess for me then, personally, I have never debated this, because, in my case,
they Both Occurred 'simultaneously' Praise God!

You are perfectly right, that's how it came in everyone's case. The Holy Spirit, in which faith is a fruit of, indwells a person when they are quickened to the new spiritual mlife.

 

[Cameron143]

I guess for me then, personally, I have never debated this, because, in my case,
they Both Occurred 'simultaneously' Praise God!

And that's often the case. For others, God's purposes were better suited to do so over a period of time.
But either way, yes...Praise God!

 

[Cameron143]

Good morning brother. Can you clarify what you mean by the above statement?

Good morning brother and sure.
When a person comes to faith, there are certain things that they will believe. It is impossible to believe in someone you don't know. This is the line of thought in Romans 10. That's why the feet of those who deliver the message are glad feet. Having heard Romans 10:9-10 tell what is to be believed.
Nowhere do I find it necessary in the scriptures to understand how God accomplished salvation as a prerequisite to salvation.

 

[Snacks]

Good morning brother and sure.
When a person comes to faith, there are certain things that they will believe. It is impossible to believe in someone you don't know. This is the line of thought in Romans 10. That's why the feet of those who deliver the message are glad feet. Having heard Romans 10:9-10 tell what is to be believed.
Nowhere do I find it necessary in the scriptures to understand how God accomplished salvation as a prerequisite to salvation.

That’s what I thought you meant, and a big amen to you for sharing sound reasoning and common sense.

 

[Nehemiah6]

It's the age old argument, which came first...regeneration or faith.

The truth is found in John 1:12,13: But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

So the sequence of events is as shown above, in which we must include (1) the gift of the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:38) and (2) the supernatural regeneration by the Spirit (Titus 3:4-7).

1. The true Gospel -- the Word of God -- is preached.
2. Faith in Christ is generated by the Gospel along with the Holy Spirit's work on the heart.
3. Those who believe on the Savior also receive Him as Lord and Savior.
4. Therefore they receive the gift of the Holy Spirit also, and are sealed at that time.
5. The Holy Spirit supernaturally regenerates them and makes them children of God.
6. The Holy Spirit also baptizes them (immerses them) into the Body of Christ at that time.

EPHESIANS 1: THE GOSPEL COMES FIRST, THEN FAITH IN CHRIST, THEN THE GIFT OF THE SPIRIT
12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the Word of Truth, the Gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise,
14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

God does not give the gift of the Holy Spirit to unbelievers.

 

[Cameron143]

I sometimes find it disconcerting on this site that believers can so easily dismiss other believers. We all hold some truth in error.
Personally, as I have grown in the faith, I find my own errors to be related to an erroneous understanding of who God actually is. And as God has been pleased to more fully reveal Himself, my understanding was made fuller and my beliefs have been altered.
If I know this in my own experience, I should also know it will be a part of every believers walk. I have found patience and gentleness are much better means of persuasion than the hammer of truth.