The Sabbath has also been reiterated in the NT but you are not keen.
Here is an example:
1 John 4:7Beloved, let us love one another, ....
Here is an example:
1 John 4:7Beloved, let us love one another, ....
Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?
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The Sabbath is not about a duration called a day - there's nothing special about the day. The Sabbath is about the condition of your heart everyday. This is how the command was stated:
Exod 20:8Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. 9Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God, on which you must not do any work—neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant or livestock, nor the foreigner within your gates. 11For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth and the sea and all that is in them, but on the seventh day He rested. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and set it apart as holy.
See? It is about thy son and daughter and manservant and maidservant and the foreigner within your gates. IOW, it is love for others.
The reason Jesus said 'day was created for man and not man for the day' and when your donkey falls in a pit on any particular day, you must show love by retrieving it.
Also, Isa 58 brings out the true meaning of Sabbath.
Exod 20:8Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. 9Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God, on which you must not do any work—neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant or livestock, nor the foreigner within your gates. 11For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth and the sea and all that is in them, but on the seventh day He rested. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and set it apart as holy.
See? It is about thy son and daughter and manservant and maidservant and the foreigner within your gates. IOW, it is love for others.
The reason Jesus said 'day was created for man and not man for the day' and when your donkey falls in a pit on any particular day, you must show love by retrieving it.
Also, Isa 58 brings out the true meaning of Sabbath.
Isa 58:
1“Cry aloud, do not hold back!
Raise your voice like a ram’s horn.
Declare to My people their transgression
and to the house of Jacob their sins.
2For day after day they seek Me
and delight to know My ways,
like a nation that does what is right
and does not forsake the justice of their God.
They ask Me for righteous judgments;
they delight in the nearness of God.”
3“Why have we fasted, and You have not seen?
Why have we humbled ourselves, and You have not noticed?”
“Behold, on the day of your fast, you do as you please,
and you oppress all your workers.
4You fast with contention and strife
to strike viciously with your fist.
You cannot fast as you do today
and have your voice be heard on high.
5Is this the fast I have chosen,
a day for a man to deny himself,
to bow his head like a reed,
and to spread out sackcloth and ashes?
Will you call this a fast
and a day acceptable to the LORD?
6Isn’t this the fast that I have chosen:
to break the chains of wickedness,
to untie the cords of the yoke,
to set the oppressed free
and tear off every yoke?
7Isn’t it to share your bread with the hungry,
to bring the poor and homeless into your home,
to clothe the naked when you see him,
and not to turn away
from your own flesh and blood?
1“Cry aloud, do not hold back!
Raise your voice like a ram’s horn.
Declare to My people their transgression
and to the house of Jacob their sins.
2For day after day they seek Me
and delight to know My ways,
like a nation that does what is right
and does not forsake the justice of their God.
They ask Me for righteous judgments;
they delight in the nearness of God.”
3“Why have we fasted, and You have not seen?
Why have we humbled ourselves, and You have not noticed?”
“Behold, on the day of your fast, you do as you please,
and you oppress all your workers.
4You fast with contention and strife
to strike viciously with your fist.
You cannot fast as you do today
and have your voice be heard on high.
5Is this the fast I have chosen,
a day for a man to deny himself,
to bow his head like a reed,
and to spread out sackcloth and ashes?
Will you call this a fast
and a day acceptable to the LORD?
6Isn’t this the fast that I have chosen:
to break the chains of wickedness,
to untie the cords of the yoke,
to set the oppressed free
and tear off every yoke?
7Isn’t it to share your bread with the hungry,
to bring the poor and homeless into your home,
to clothe the naked when you see him,
and not to turn away
from your own flesh and blood?
What commandments do you think John was speaking of?
1 John 5:2 "By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous."
For me, it is easy. Even though I am saved by grace, I follow Jesus' example when He walked the earth. Not perfectly, mind you--that is unobtainable. I can't keep the law as a general practice but I can use it as a guideline. But then, all things are lawful but not expedient (1 Cor. 10:23).
1 John 5:2 "By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous."
For me, it is easy. Even though I am saved by grace, I follow Jesus' example when He walked the earth. Not perfectly, mind you--that is unobtainable. I can't keep the law as a general practice but I can use it as a guideline. But then, all things are lawful but not expedient (1 Cor. 10:23).
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The law of Moses was just a shadow, an outline that leads us to Christ. Christ, not only fulfilled the prophecies written in the law, but took some of those laws and EXPANDED upon them to include the heart and mind bringing them to a higher and more intense degree than was even found in the law of Moses.
God says:
Sin is transgression of the law. Follow as best we can. But, we are sinners. So, we repent. Sin repented of is forgiven through the blood of Christ, which will wash us clean. To much unrepented sin and you lose your salvation. Chose Life.
Yet, as some put forth,
Can't follow the law perfectly, law is only to condemn, so there is no more law to follow. Just follow your heart and you walk perfectly, like Christ (except that He followed the law). Therefore, not a sinner. So, no need for repentance. Wouldn't that mean no need for the blood of Christ? Salvation assured through faith that Christ was the son of God and died for our sins???? Would that mean Christ died to get rid of law???
But what did God also say about the Law???
Deuteronomy 5:27 Go thou near, and hear all that the LORD our God shall say: and speak thou unto us all that the LORD our God shall speak unto thee; and we will hear it, and do it.
Deuteronomy 5:28 And the LORD heard the voice of your words, when ye spake unto me and the LORD said unto me, I have heard the voice of the words of this people, which they have spoken unto thee they have well said all that they have spoken.
Deuteronomy 5:29 O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear me, and keep all my commandments always, that it might be well with them, and with their children for ever!
THAT IT MIGHT BE WELL WITH THEM AND THEIR CHILDREN FOREVER
Hebrews 3:6 But Christ as a son over his own house whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.
Hebrews 3:7 Wherefore as the Holy Spirit saith, To day if ye will hear his voice,
Hebrews 3:8 Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness
Hebrews 3:9 When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.
Hebrews 3:10 Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart and they have not known my ways.
James 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
James 1:23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass
James 1:24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.
James 1:25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.
Hebrews 3:11 So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.
Hebrews 3:12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
Hebrews 3:13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
Hebrews 3:14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end
John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law for sin is the transgression of the law.
John 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
John 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
John 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
Hebrews 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
God says:
Sin is transgression of the law. Follow as best we can. But, we are sinners. So, we repent. Sin repented of is forgiven through the blood of Christ, which will wash us clean. To much unrepented sin and you lose your salvation. Chose Life.
Yet, as some put forth,
Can't follow the law perfectly, law is only to condemn, so there is no more law to follow. Just follow your heart and you walk perfectly, like Christ (except that He followed the law). Therefore, not a sinner. So, no need for repentance. Wouldn't that mean no need for the blood of Christ? Salvation assured through faith that Christ was the son of God and died for our sins???? Would that mean Christ died to get rid of law???
But what did God also say about the Law???
Deuteronomy 5:27 Go thou near, and hear all that the LORD our God shall say: and speak thou unto us all that the LORD our God shall speak unto thee; and we will hear it, and do it.
Deuteronomy 5:28 And the LORD heard the voice of your words, when ye spake unto me and the LORD said unto me, I have heard the voice of the words of this people, which they have spoken unto thee they have well said all that they have spoken.
Deuteronomy 5:29 O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear me, and keep all my commandments always, that it might be well with them, and with their children for ever!
THAT IT MIGHT BE WELL WITH THEM AND THEIR CHILDREN FOREVER
Hebrews 3:6 But Christ as a son over his own house whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.
Hebrews 3:7 Wherefore as the Holy Spirit saith, To day if ye will hear his voice,
Hebrews 3:8 Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness
Hebrews 3:9 When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.
Hebrews 3:10 Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart and they have not known my ways.
James 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
James 1:23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass
James 1:24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.
James 1:25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.
Hebrews 3:11 So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.
Hebrews 3:12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
Hebrews 3:13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
Hebrews 3:14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end
John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law for sin is the transgression of the law.
John 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
John 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
John 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
Hebrews 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
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I think that a long transition period (some 20 years) between the Old and the New Covenants was part of God's plan. That's why Jesus didn't tell the disciples that the law of Moses had been (or would be) abolished.
The good thing about it is that, despite the differences between Jesus and Paul, the New Testament was not tampered with, in an attempt to make them match. Theologians had a hard time trying to harmonize the teachings of Jesus with the teachings of Paul (without success), but the Greek texts remained intact.
The good thing about it is that, despite the differences between Jesus and Paul, the New Testament was not tampered with, in an attempt to make them match. Theologians had a hard time trying to harmonize the teachings of Jesus with the teachings of Paul (without success), but the Greek texts remained intact.
What commandments do you think John was speaking of?
1 John 5:2 "By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous."
For me, it is easy. Even though I am saved by grace, I follow Jesus' example when He walked the earth. Not perfectly, mind you--that is unobtainable. I can't keep the law as a general practice but I can use it as a guideline. But then, all things are lawful but not expedient (1 Cor. 10:23).
1 John 5:2 "By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous."
For me, it is easy. Even though I am saved by grace, I follow Jesus' example when He walked the earth. Not perfectly, mind you--that is unobtainable. I can't keep the law as a general practice but I can use it as a guideline. But then, all things are lawful but not expedient (1 Cor. 10:23).
The main way I reconcile is that the Jews were given a one year extension period after the Crucifixion, where the Gospel of the Kingdom preached in the 4 Gospels was still in effect. (Luke 13:6-9)
During that 1 year, what Jesus commanded them to follow was still in force. It expired when Stephen was stoned.
During that 1 year, what Jesus commanded them to follow was still in force. It expired when Stephen was stoned.
What commandments do you think John was speaking of?
1 John 5:2 "By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous."
For me, it is easy. Even though I am saved by grace, I follow Jesus' example when He walked the earth. Not perfectly, mind you--that is unobtainable. I can't keep the law as a general practice but I can use it as a guideline. But then, all things are lawful but not expedient (1 Cor. 10:23).
1 John 5:2 "By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous."
For me, it is easy. Even though I am saved by grace, I follow Jesus' example when He walked the earth. Not perfectly, mind you--that is unobtainable. I can't keep the law as a general practice but I can use it as a guideline. But then, all things are lawful but not expedient (1 Cor. 10:23).
By resting in Christ. By abiding in Christ and being the workmanship of God. God then Grows the Fruit of Obedience, the keeping of His commandments.
This is what keeping His commandments looks like;
Love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance...
Galatians 3:3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
It is the Gift of God. Just like Salvation. We receive Righteousness, Salvation, Obedience, Wisdom, and Understanding as Gifts from God.
Isn't it strange how many Christians don't know this??? It seems so simple once you are shown...
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What commandments do you think John was speaking of?
1 John 5:2 "By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous."
For me, it is easy. Even though I am saved by grace, I follow Jesus' example when He walked the earth. Not perfectly, mind you--that is unobtainable. I can't keep the law as a general practice but I can use it as a guideline. But then, all things are lawful but not expedient (1 Cor. 10:23).
1 John 5:2 "By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous."
For me, it is easy. Even though I am saved by grace, I follow Jesus' example when He walked the earth. Not perfectly, mind you--that is unobtainable. I can't keep the law as a general practice but I can use it as a guideline. But then, all things are lawful but not expedient (1 Cor. 10:23).
When Jesus said to the young rich ruler: "Keep the commandments", he was referring to the 10 commandments because at that time they were still under the law of Moses.
In John 5:2 John is referring to New Covenant commandments, since the letter was written some 6 decades after the resurrection of the Lord Jesus.
I think Marcelo may have already answered this:
Our new life in Christ is the Sabbath. We find our rest in Him Who is Himself the Lord of the Sabbath
Our new life in Christ is the Sabbath. We find our rest in Him Who is Himself the Lord of the Sabbath
Thank the Lord above that following the commandments is not "work" to those who love the Lord. I am sorry you find them to be such work. That is the only reason I can think of that you constantly only see them as work for others. I never see them as work unless I am reading one of your posts. Which ones do you find to be so hard to follow that you see it as WORK??
I hope you find some of that love and joy and peace ect. You know it is almost (probably past) looking like you are putting a stumbling block in front of Gods children by always saying to follow the commandments is work, when it is not. Not one person has mentioned them as being work but here you are once again telling some that they are. What is it you are really trying to put forth. It obviously isn't the word of God.
You use all the right words but somehow always make it feel the opposite of what Gods Word says. And you always bring the subject back to salvation like you can't stand anyone moving past that. Is that because you refuse to and the thought of their rewards being so much greater than yours bothers you?
It seems you are one of just a couple who are stuck at the starting gate. The thief on the cross had but hours to live and he obtained salvation just the same as you are teaching here. Do you think if he could have come down off the crosss that 20 years later he would be teaching that as that is all there is?? Probably, cause that is how you are doing it. Like those who come to Christ don't learn all that stuff in the very first couple lessons.
I hope you find some of that love and joy and peace ect. You know it is almost (probably past) looking like you are putting a stumbling block in front of Gods children by always saying to follow the commandments is work, when it is not. Not one person has mentioned them as being work but here you are once again telling some that they are. What is it you are really trying to put forth. It obviously isn't the word of God.
You use all the right words but somehow always make it feel the opposite of what Gods Word says. And you always bring the subject back to salvation like you can't stand anyone moving past that. Is that because you refuse to and the thought of their rewards being so much greater than yours bothers you?
It seems you are one of just a couple who are stuck at the starting gate. The thief on the cross had but hours to live and he obtained salvation just the same as you are teaching here. Do you think if he could have come down off the crosss that 20 years later he would be teaching that as that is all there is?? Probably, cause that is how you are doing it. Like those who come to Christ don't learn all that stuff in the very first couple lessons.