Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR

[FollowerofShiloh]

You missed the point. There are two worlds, the world of the saved, the world of the unsaved/condemned

John speaks of the world where God did His creation (kosmos = Universe). That is both the saved and unsaved people.

 

[brightfame52]

He died for sins so we avoid wrath.
He is the reason wrath does not come upon us.

False His death delivers the elect from wrath 1 Thess 1:10

1:10
And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

God is propitiation by Christs death for them.

You need to ditch that shiloh you follow lol

 

[rogerg]

@rogerg



It is, in the same way there were Two different Israels Rom 9:6

6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:

So there is a world Jesus didnt pray for Jn 17:9

Theres a world He does intercede and advocate for 1 Jn 2:1-2

Yes, absolutely agree with you, brightfame52:

[Gal 6:15-16 KJV]
15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
16 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace [be] on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.

[1Pe 2:10 KJV]
10 Which in time past [were] not a people, but [are] now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

 

[brightfame52]

John speaks of the world where God did His creation (kosmos = Universe). That is both the saved and unsaved people.

Sir you dont know what in the world you saying, just spitting out words

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

If Jesus was here and said you are wrong you would say no He died for the saved. Read the pharisees, you are them. What happened to them? They didn't believe Jesus either.

 

[brightfame52]

Yes, absolutely agree with you, brightfame52:

[Gal 6:15-16 KJV]
15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
16 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace [be] on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.

[1Pe 2:10 KJV]
10 Which in time past [were] not a people, but [are] now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

And thats the world Jesus saved Jn 3:16-17

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

Sir you dont know what in the world you saying, just spitting out words

You don't know Greek so there's no way you have a clue to what you say.

If you knew the Koine Greek you would be intelligent and shut up.

 

[brightfame52]

If Jesus was here and said you are wrong you would say no He died for the saved. Read the pharisees, you are them. What happened to them? They didn't believe Jesus either.

You still dont know what you saying.

 

[Cameron143]

Head meet wall.

 

[brightfame52]

You don't know Greek so there's no way you have a clue to what you say.

If you knew the Koine Greek you would be intelligent and shut up.

You still dont know what you saying, you all over the place

 

[rogerg]

Did God die for only some of your sins or all of them?
When He died for the kosmos He died for all those sins listed.

I believe there is only one spiritual sin of consequence: trusting in one's works for salvation and not trusting in Christ as Saviour.
Which I believe Cameron143 also made mention of in a prior post.

 

[brightfame52]

John speaks of the world where God did His creation (kosmos = Universe). That is both the saved and unsaved people.

You serve a saviour that cant save a sinner from sin, the sinner sins to much. I cant save that sinner because he rejected me lol

 

[rogerg]

You will never be Israel.
You're lucky to just be adopted.

Those who have been adopted ARE the Israel of God.

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

1 John 2:2
And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for [the sins of] the whole world.
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[FollowerofShiloh]

Those who have been adopted ARE the Israel of God.

No they're not they're the seed of Abraham. Jacob is Israel, not Abraham, and you're his adopted seed. You guys really don't know anything but your doctrine. Sad!

 

[brightfame52]

1 John 2:2
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Thats the saved Justified world

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

Thats the saved Justified world

That just proves you don't know the Koine Greek at all.

How can you proclaim the word of God and not even know the koine Greek?

 

[rogerg]

1 John 2:2
And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for [the sins of] the whole world.
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Uh-oh! I think FollowerofShiloh is stuck.

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

Uh-oh! I think FollowerofShiloh is stuck.

Stuck talking to a mud fence with the intelligence of chipped paint.

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

The English Language New Testament you have was first Koine Greek.
Why would you even try to speak with authority until you first understood the original Koine Greek so you're not making tools of yourselves?