Jesus didnt die for the final unsaved, to say He did is demean Him as the Saviour ! Your saviour is man
Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR
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9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,
10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor liars will inherit the kingdom of God.
8 But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”
10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor liars will inherit the kingdom of God.
8 But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”
Jesus never said that anywhere. You are putting words into the mouth of Jesus
The shiloh you follow cant save a sinner from rebellion against Him. Ask Paul how the True Shiloh saved him from rejecting Him
I follow Jesus and His words. He is God. I am more secure because I only trust Jesus than you trust your man made doctrine.
If you do not understand the Gospels and words of Jesus, you will never understand the rest of the New Testament.
Propitiation means Gods wrath has been appeased, so the whole world of 1 Jn 2:2 is Justified, reconciled, and at Peace with God by Christ.
Can that be said about every individual in the entire world ? NO
No you dont, you follow a jesus who cant save a ungodly, rebellious sinner.
No, the non-elect are not included in the world to come.
Different worlds - one eternal; one to be destroyed: one world cannot at the same time be saved AND yet be destroyed. For that, there must be two different worlds. The world to come is the one Christ saved; the current one to be destroyed.
Verses Jhn 3:17, 1Jo2:16 & 17 below use the word kosmos.
And I am done with, and tired of, this particular topic.
[Jhn 3:17 KJV]
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
[1Jo 2:16-17 KJV]
16 For all that [is] in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
[2Pe 3:10-11 KJV]
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 [Seeing] then [that] all these things shall be dissolved, what manner [of persons] ought ye to be in [all] holy conversation and godliness,
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Propitiation is for the whole universe.
But if you do what Jesus says in verse 48, then you won't be saved.
48 The one who rejects me and does not receive my words has a judge; the word that I have spoken will judge him on the last day
Nowhere does it say God forced Himself on us.
Did God force Mary to be pregnant or did He ask first?
Mary could have said no just like in verse 48 The one who rejects me and does not receive my words has a judge; the word that I have spoken will judge him on the last day.
God works the same way in salvation.
Did God die for only some of your sins or all of them?
When He died for the kosmos He died for all those sins listed.
You dont know what propitiation is, He is not the propitiation for the vessels of wrath He created Rom 9 22
He died for sins so we avoid wrath.
He is the reason wrath does not come upon us.
You missed the point. There are two worlds, the world of the saved, the world of the unsaved/condemned