Death curses the law

[posthuman]

no you haven't

you are quite wrong.
i just did it again, and here it is yet again:

because Adam changed Woman's name to Eve.

you can hate the answer all you want, but you're in error to say i haven't answered you.

Adam changed Woman's name to Eve.
Adam changed Woman's name to Eve.
Adam changed Woman's name to Eve.
Adam changed Woman's name to Eve.
Adam changed Woman's name to Eve.
Adam changed Woman's name to Eve.
Adam changed Woman's name to Eve.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

you are quite wrong.
i just did it again, and here it is yet again:

because Adam changed Woman's name to Eve.

you can hate the answer all you want, but you're in error to say i haven't answered you.

Adam changed Woman's name to Eve.
Adam changed Woman's name to Eve.
Adam changed Woman's name to Eve.
Adam changed Woman's name to Eve.
Adam changed Woman's name to Eve.
Adam changed Woman's name to Eve.
Adam changed Woman's name to Eve.

. God let man call all the animals by name in genesis 2 this was before eating of the tree.

As God watched to see what man would call the animals in gen 2

So this would imply Adam gave his wife a name to in genesis 2 who was not an animal.



But maybe he called her by name after genesis 2.

I don't know when he called her by eve.

Besides all this.


It is also without doubt God had made man to be like him in nature before the fall,.which would include his human to have his nature also, As God dearly loved his children.

But here is the question again

Here we see man becoming like God for another reason

The lord God said the man has become like us knowing all good and all evil.

So what is the reason God said this.

Now it says man become to know something, which is the biggest hint yet,.for you.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Oh and heres a nice teaching, I fell peacefully to asleep with my headphones on after a lovely Sunday meal before listening to this

 

[posthuman]

God let man call all the animals by name in genesis 2 this was before eating of the tree.

As God watched to see what man would call the animals in gen 2

So this would imply Adam gave his wife a name to in genesis 2 who was not an animal.

But maybe he called her by name after genesis 2.

I don't know when he called her by eve.

he first named her when she was created:

Genesis 2:23​

And Adam said:​

"This [is] now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; She shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man."​

then gave her a new name when they heard and believed in Christ:

Genesis 3:20​

And Adam called his wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of all living.​

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as also The Second Adam does with us, His Bride:

Revelation 2:17 ​

He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches:​

To him who overcomes I will give some of the hidden manna to eat. ​

And I will give him a white stone, and on the stone a new name written which no one knows except him who receives [it.]​

 

[posthuman]

The lord God said the man has become like us knowing all good and all evil.

it doesn't say "all" and the conjunction with evil equally means "from" — the sense cannot be that for the first time he knew the difference between right and wrong, or he never could have known whether to obey a command or not or understood that it was evil to disobey.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

it doesn't say "all" and the conjunction with evil equally means "from" — the sense cannot be that for the first time he knew the difference between right and wrong, or he never could have known whether to obey a command or not or understood that it was evil to disobey.

from the beginning man was created with the ability to know right from wrong.

Does knowing wrong necessarily mean knowing evil.

You çan know wrong for all sorts of reasons.

Evil knowledge went into Adam all in one hit, every bit of knowledge of evil.


I'm sure your understanding this now.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

he first named her when she was created:

Genesis 2:23​

And Adam said:​

"This [is] now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; She shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man."​

then gave her a new name when they heard and believed in Christ:

Genesis 3:20​

And Adam called his wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of all living.​

​

as also The Second Adam does with us, His Bride:

Revelation 2:17 ​

He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches:​

To him who overcomes I will give some of the hidden manna to eat. ​

And I will give him a white stone, and on the stone a new name written which no one knows except him who receives [it.]​

Adam calling his wife makes no difference to the question.

His human nature of knowing right from wrong hadn't changed

The difference is he came to know all knowledge of evil.

Something God didn't want Adam to know

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

it doesn't say "all" and the conjunction with evil equally means "from" — the sense cannot be that for the first time he knew the difference between right and wrong, or he never could have known whether to obey a command or not or understood that it was evil to disobey.

no it was all knowledge of evil because not only did that knowledge of evil destroy his soul it kept him destroyed


THe lord said don't eat from the tree of good and evil.

What do you think killed him knowledge of Good

 

[posthuman]

no it was all knowledge of evil because not only did that knowledge of evil destroy his soul it kept him destroyed

does that make a person like God? for their soul to be in perpetual destruction?

is it your position that God is perpetually damned?

 

[posthuman]

Adam has known good from evil - he found grace and mercy, and what Satan had meant for harm, God turned to his benefit, through his faith.

God told him of the One Who would come and crush the head of the serpent, and he believed, changing his dead wife's name to "life" -
- therefore God gave the blood of an innocent Lamb to clothe him in a new garment, and said in the presence of all His angels, "Behold!"

 

[posthuman]

Adam has known good from evil - he found grace and mercy, and what Satan had meant for harm, God turned to his benefit, through his faith.

God told him of the One Who would come and crush the head of the serpent, and he believed, changing his dead wife's name to "life" -
- therefore God gave the blood of an innocent Lamb to clothe him in a new garment, and said in the presence of all His angels, "Behold!"

the truth is far more complex and beautiful than

'Adam became like God because he sinned'​

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that's rubbish imo

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

does that make a person like God? for their soul to be in perpetual destruction?

is it your position that God is perpetually damned?

Again God said man has become like us knowing both knowledge of Good and evil.

So this is like me saying you have become like me because you became a carpenter knowing how to build good things and bad things.

But before that, you where like me also because you had ears a mouth a nose hair, a mind a nature a soul

But was you like me in other ways to begin with.

Well I could say I don't want you to become like me and. climb a 150 foot trees with a chain saw, because it could kill you.

So I wouldn't give you that knowledge.

Now the next day unbeknown to me somebody gives you the knowledge, you go out and kill yourself because you never knew what to do with that knowledge

So God said if you eat of the tree of knowledge of Good and evil it will kill you.

So I'm sure this is not rocket science anymore yesi

 

[posthuman]

Adam calling his wife makes no difference to the question.

it certainly does.
it is the immediate context:

Adam does this, then God does something and says (to who?) of Adam, BEHOLD!!! he is become like us, knowing good, from evil

 

[posthuman]

Again God said man has become like us knowing both knowledge of Good and evil.

it sounds to me like your position is that in order to be like God you have to commit evil and have your heart full of evil and destroy your soul with evil.. ?

this is what you think God is like?
full of evil, corrupt and desolate inside?

because to me that sure sounds like Satan talking, not the truth.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

it certainly does.
it is the immediate context:

Adam does this, then God does something and says (to who?) of Adam, BEHOLD!!! he is become like us, knowing good, from evil

well Adam has already died before he named his wife.

He was naming animals to before he died.

So his human nature chose the names.

His human nature never died

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

it sounds to me like your position is that in order to be like God you have to commit evil and have your heart full of evil and destroy your soul with evil.. ?

this is what you think God is like?
full of evil, corrupt and desolate inside?

well that is what it is sounding like to you.

 

[posthuman]

well that is what it is sounding like to you.

do you believe that Satan was correct saying that eating from the forbidden tree (committing sin) made them like God?

 

[posthuman]

well Adam has already died before he named his wife.

and death was also in his wife, so why did he change her name to "living"?

how smart is he?
what did he know?
Who did he know?

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

and death was also in his wife, so why did he change her name to "living"?

how smart is he?
what did he know?
Who did he know?

are you asking me why he changed her name to the living.

so ok eves mean the living.

but what was living in her after fall.

well here's my view.

her and his human nature was still living.

her and his spiritual nature was still living to.

but her and his spiritual nature was living with death inside them now killed by the knowledge of all evil.

Which made her human nature suffer.

this isn't complicated post human.

many people where called names after principals

like Ismael was called Ismael because it means God hears me.

Abram had his name called Abraham because God made Abraham the father of many nations.

but still you haven't answered the question.

adam was calling all the animals by name before he died a living death.

then he was still calling people by name after his living death.

so what has changed.

well I will tell you.

absolutely nothing.

Because his human nature is still living.

here's the question if God says if you eat of that tree you will die. What does that mean

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

do you believe that Satan was correct saying that eating from the forbidden tree (committing sin) made them like God?

It wasn't satan on the garden, and this is yet another one of your many assumptions towards me.


This is what the bible says.

The serpent was more crafty than any of the animals

Which means the serpent was an animal being spoken as being the most crafty animal of them all.

Every single child associates the serpent as an animal in the UK that's what there all taught at school by leading ministers

But not you. No your different right.

The bible does not say the old serpent was craftier than any of the other animals.

The bible also says be as wise as a serpent and as harmless as a dove spoken in Mathew.

So here's the thing is Jesus now telling you to be as wise as satan.

Well no he's not.

Because Jesus doesn't make the word serpent to mean one thing only like you do.

Why well he seeks his father.