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https://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-Vatican-s-largest-telescope-named-Lucifer-Is-that-a-joke
Vatican have the biggest telescope in mount Graham the Indian holy place and she name it LUCIFER
With this telescope They try to watch alien activities.
1. The name may tell that Vatican work for lucifer.
2. Alien activities is devil activities to deceive us
Vatican have the biggest telescope in mount Graham the Indian holy place and she name it LUCIFER
With this telescope They try to watch alien activities.
1. The name may tell that Vatican work for lucifer.
2. Alien activities is devil activities to deceive us
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as I'm sure you know, "lucifer" just means "light bringer".
in a liturgical procession (Catholic or Protestant), the person carrying the candle is called the lucifer,
just like the person carrying the cross is called the crucifer.
I myself have been a lucifer.
the name "Lucifer" occurs only once in the Bible, and then only in the King James and closely related translations.
Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
I think this is a better translation:
Your pride has been sent down to Sheol.
The music from your harps announces the coming of your proud spirit.
Maggots will be the bed you lie on,
and other worms will cover your body like a blanket.
12 You were like the morning star,
but you have fallen from the sky.
In the past, all the nations on earth bowed down before you,
but now you have been cut down.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+14&version=ERV
I think it's referring to the king of Babylon and comparing him to the planet Venus, which is also called the morning star or Lucifer.
Jesus calls himself the morning Star
“I, Jesus, have sent my angel to tell you these things for the churches. I am the descendant from the family of David. I am the bright morning star.”
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+22&version=ERV
so it's not surprising at all to me that the Vatican has a telescope named Lucifer.
when you say they use it to watch satanic alien activities, are you looking for the best in other people?
or assuming the worst?
Love never gives up.
Love cares more for others than for self.
Love doesn’t want what it doesn’t have.
Love doesn’t strut,
Doesn’t have a swelled head,
Doesn’t force itself on others,
Isn’t always “me first,”
Doesn’t fly off the handle,
Doesn’t keep score of the sins of others,
Doesn’t revel when others grovel,
Takes pleasure in the flowering of truth,
Puts up with anything,
Trusts God always,
Always looks for the best,
Never looks back,
But keeps going to the end.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+13&version=MSG
in a liturgical procession (Catholic or Protestant), the person carrying the candle is called the lucifer,
just like the person carrying the cross is called the crucifer.
I myself have been a lucifer.
the name "Lucifer" occurs only once in the Bible, and then only in the King James and closely related translations.
Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
I think this is a better translation:
Your pride has been sent down to Sheol.
The music from your harps announces the coming of your proud spirit.
Maggots will be the bed you lie on,
and other worms will cover your body like a blanket.
12 You were like the morning star,
but you have fallen from the sky.
In the past, all the nations on earth bowed down before you,
but now you have been cut down.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+14&version=ERV
I think it's referring to the king of Babylon and comparing him to the planet Venus, which is also called the morning star or Lucifer.
Jesus calls himself the morning Star
“I, Jesus, have sent my angel to tell you these things for the churches. I am the descendant from the family of David. I am the bright morning star.”
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+22&version=ERV
so it's not surprising at all to me that the Vatican has a telescope named Lucifer.
when you say they use it to watch satanic alien activities, are you looking for the best in other people?
or assuming the worst?
Love never gives up.
Love cares more for others than for self.
Love doesn’t want what it doesn’t have.
Love doesn’t strut,
Doesn’t have a swelled head,
Doesn’t force itself on others,
Isn’t always “me first,”
Doesn’t fly off the handle,
Doesn’t keep score of the sins of others,
Doesn’t revel when others grovel,
Takes pleasure in the flowering of truth,
Puts up with anything,
Trusts God always,
Always looks for the best,
Never looks back,
But keeps going to the end.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+13&version=MSG
I believe what you are experiencing is "confirmation bias".
"For example, a person may cherry-pick empirical data that supports one's belief, ignoring the remainder of the data that is not supportive."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
we may wish to
"Stop judging by the way things look. Be fair and judge by what is really right."
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John 7:23-25&version=ERV
"For example, a person may cherry-pick empirical data that supports one's belief, ignoring the remainder of the data that is not supportive."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
we may wish to
"Stop judging by the way things look. Be fair and judge by what is really right."
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John 7:23-25&version=ERV
some interesting quotes in the link from your post
"A: The telescope is actually called Large Binocular Telescope (LBT), and is a cooperation by a lot of people including the universities of Virginia, Notre Dame, Minnesota, Ohio State, and Arizona, the Italian National Astrophysics Institute, Leibniz and Max Planck institute, and a lot of others including companies.
On this telescope, there is an instrument for near infrared studies formerly called LUCIFER (Large Binocular Telescope Near-infrared Spectroscopic Utility with Camera and Integral Field Unit for Extragalactic Research) – and of course it is a joke. Every time you see an acronym that spells out into a word, it is either a joke or a political pun."
"However, the Vatican is not involved. They have the telescope next door, VATT; Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope. If you stand on the balcony of the LBT and have this view:"
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-Vatican-s-largest-telescope-named-Lucifer-Is-that-a-joke
are you sure it's in India?
this website talks about it being in Arizona, USA
https://www.catholic.com/qa/relax-the-vatican-didnt-name-a-telescope-lucifer
"A: The telescope is actually called Large Binocular Telescope (LBT), and is a cooperation by a lot of people including the universities of Virginia, Notre Dame, Minnesota, Ohio State, and Arizona, the Italian National Astrophysics Institute, Leibniz and Max Planck institute, and a lot of others including companies.
On this telescope, there is an instrument for near infrared studies formerly called LUCIFER (Large Binocular Telescope Near-infrared Spectroscopic Utility with Camera and Integral Field Unit for Extragalactic Research) – and of course it is a joke. Every time you see an acronym that spells out into a word, it is either a joke or a political pun."
"However, the Vatican is not involved. They have the telescope next door, VATT; Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope. If you stand on the balcony of the LBT and have this view:"
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-Vatican-s-largest-telescope-named-Lucifer-Is-that-a-joke
are you sure it's in India?
this website talks about it being in Arizona, USA
https://www.catholic.com/qa/relax-the-vatican-didnt-name-a-telescope-lucifer
I say Indian/ Native American, not India
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For the Apache in Arizona, one of these sacred places is Mount Graham: this place is called Dzil Nchaa Si An (Big Seated Mountain) and is mentioned in 32 of the sacred songs which have been handed down through the oral tradition for many generations. It is here that the Ga'an, the guardian spirits of the Apache, live.
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For the Apache in Arizona, one of these sacred places is Mount Graham: this place is called Dzil Nchaa Si An (Big Seated Mountain) and is mentioned in 32 of the sacred songs which have been handed down through the oral tradition for many generations. It is here that the Ga'an, the guardian spirits of the Apache, live.
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There are working together
MGIO is a division of Steward Observatory, the research arm for the Department of Astronomy at the University of Arizona. Scientific researchers from around the world make use of MGIO facilities. We serve this community, operating and maintaining facilities at the remote observing site located in the Pinaleño Mountains in southeast Arizona. This area is part of the Coronado National Forest -- administered by the Safford Ranger District, U.S. Forest Service. Our office, the MGIO Base Camp, is located at the eastern base of Mount Graham, six miles south of Safford, Arizona.
Research telescopes at MGIO are:
Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope
Heinrich Hertz Submillimeter Telescope
The Large Binocular Telescope
MGIO is a division of Steward Observatory, the research arm for the Department of Astronomy at the University of Arizona. Scientific researchers from around the world make use of MGIO facilities. We serve this community, operating and maintaining facilities at the remote observing site located in the Pinaleño Mountains in southeast Arizona. This area is part of the Coronado National Forest -- administered by the Safford Ranger District, U.S. Forest Service. Our office, the MGIO Base Camp, is located at the eastern base of Mount Graham, six miles south of Safford, Arizona.
Research telescopes at MGIO are:
Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope
Heinrich Hertz Submillimeter Telescope
The Large Binocular Telescope
This quote is from the directors of Vatican astronomy
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Corbally said the Vatican`s telescope on Mount Graham, with a 6-foot-diameter mirror, is expected to be one of the most accurate in the world.
Of the search for extraterrestrial life, Corbally said, ''We would be open to that sort of thing. Certainly, some of our efforts should be directed toward that.''
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Corbally said the Vatican`s telescope on Mount Graham, with a 6-foot-diameter mirror, is expected to be one of the most accurate in the world.
Of the search for extraterrestrial life, Corbally said, ''We would be open to that sort of thing. Certainly, some of our efforts should be directed toward that.''
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yes, the Vatican shares the facility with several other groups. I think this is very common.
it looks like the "Lucifer" telescope was basically a joke perpetrated by the Max Planck institute.
Christian chat itself shares facilities at cloudflare.com, which probably serves many sites we would find objectionable.
https://www.whoishostingthis.com/#search=christianchat.com
it looks like the "Lucifer" telescope was basically a joke perpetrated by the Max Planck institute.
Christian chat itself shares facilities at cloudflare.com, which probably serves many sites we would find objectionable.
https://www.whoishostingthis.com/#search=christianchat.com
many Protestants search for extraterrestrial life, as well.
if I follow your reasoning, it's that aliens aren't mentioned in creation, therefore they must be Satan in disguise.
bacteria aren't mentioned in the creation story, either.
a bacterium is neither a plant from day 3 nor an animal from day 5 or 6.
I don't think we even knew they existed until microscopes were invented that were good enough to see them.
of course, a microscope is similar to a telescope.
so if people using a telescope one day see extraterrestrial life, to me that would be very similar to when humans first saw bacteria!
(of course "extraterrestrial life" doesn't necessarily imply "intelligent extraterrestrial life".)
if I follow your reasoning, it's that aliens aren't mentioned in creation, therefore they must be Satan in disguise.
bacteria aren't mentioned in the creation story, either.
a bacterium is neither a plant from day 3 nor an animal from day 5 or 6.
I don't think we even knew they existed until microscopes were invented that were good enough to see them.
of course, a microscope is similar to a telescope.
so if people using a telescope one day see extraterrestrial life, to me that would be very similar to when humans first saw bacteria!
(of course "extraterrestrial life" doesn't necessarily imply "intelligent extraterrestrial life".)
Bactery and viruse not mention in the Bible, but Satan mention in the Bible and Satan is liar
This qoute make me think alien is Satan and Vatican promote Satan agenda
Vatican theologians consider the possibility that Jesus was a 'star child' and the immaculate conception was one of the earliest documented cases of alien abduction/visitation. Thus the Second Coming of Christ is expected to confirm that Jesus was in fact an extraterrestrial, or a human-alien hybrid.
Preparations for an alien 'god' are well on the way. The Church plans to reassure the faithful that the new ET reality doesn't negate the word of the Bible and Jesus Christ as the son of God. The Catholic Church will embrace the new 'savior' and encourage religious people everywhere to do the same.
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https://exemplore.com/ufos-aliens/An-Alien-God-is-Coming-and-Vatican-is-Ready-for-Him
This qoute make me think alien is Satan and Vatican promote Satan agenda
Vatican theologians consider the possibility that Jesus was a 'star child' and the immaculate conception was one of the earliest documented cases of alien abduction/visitation. Thus the Second Coming of Christ is expected to confirm that Jesus was in fact an extraterrestrial, or a human-alien hybrid.
Preparations for an alien 'god' are well on the way. The Church plans to reassure the faithful that the new ET reality doesn't negate the word of the Bible and Jesus Christ as the son of God. The Catholic Church will embrace the new 'savior' and encourage religious people everywhere to do the same.
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https://exemplore.com/ufos-aliens/An-Alien-God-is-Coming-and-Vatican-is-Ready-for-Him