Can the nonelect ever be born-again? (2 Kings 22:27) With the elect thou wilt be elect: and with the perverse thou wilt be perverted.

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Will the nonelect ever be born-again?

  • The nonelect can be born-again.

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  • The nonelect will never be born-again.

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rogerg

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Everlasting-Grace said:
yes,

and how was that righteousness imputed?

HE BELIEVED GOD and IT (his faith) was ACCOUNTED AS RIGHTEOUSNESS
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It was accounted by Abraham to God - that God is righteous. From Christ's faith imputed to him, was Abraham made righteous.

[Phl 3:9 KJV] 9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
 
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Everlasting-Grace

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rogerg said:
So we inherit faith from Abraham?
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No, but we are saved through the same faith. do you have a problem reading?

Really, that Abrahm's faith is what saves us?
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No, it does not say this, again, do you have a problem reading?

Abraham is the father because he was circumcised as a sign or symbol of the faith. He is the father of those who would be given the true circumcision but not of the flesh. It is not saying that his faith was of himself. If what you are saying were true, then we would all need to produce our own faith independently. How then would that then make Abraham the father of our faith - we would each then be the father of our own faith.
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lol. Again,m do you have a problem reading

Abrahams FAITH was credited or imputed as righteousness.

Abrahams faith was the means to which Gods grace was imputed to him..
 
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Everlasting-Grace

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rogerg said:
It was accounted by Abraham to God - that God is righteous. From Christ's faith imputed to him, was Abraham made righteous.
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WHAT?????????????????????????

[Phl 3:9 KJV] 9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:[/QUOTE]

Sorry bud, God does not have faith for you..But as many as have recieved HIM!!!!! (john 1: 12)

You must receive God.. He will not do the work of trusting him for you
 
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Everlasting-Grace said:
WHAT?????????????????????????

[Phl 3:9 KJV] 9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
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Sorry bud, God does not have faith for you..But as many as have recieved HIM!!!!! (john 1: 12)

You must receive God.. He will not do the work of trusting him for you[/QUOTE] Gods life is still in man in fallen state
 
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rogerg

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Everlasting-Grace said:
No, but we are saved through the same faith. do you have a problem reading?


No, it does not say this, again, do you have a problem reading?


lol. Again,m do you have a problem reading

Abrahams FAITH was credited or imputed as righteousness.

Abrahams faith was the means to which Gods grace was imputed to him..
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I was going to try to be nice to you which by nature is not an easy task for me. I have no inherent need to have to dialogue with you
so if you're going to be rude, we can stop immediately. As a matter of fact, why don't we do so now before I say something
I'll regret later.
 
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Everlasting-Grace said:
Um no it is not.

thats why the man is dead..
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in correct and thats wrong to say this.

Genesis 1

God created mankind in heaven and blessed them

Well mankind here means the life of Jesus was created in one man in heaven Adam. And God blessed them.

Gen 2

Noticed the gap between 1 and 2

Then God breathed the life of all mankind into Adam
 
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Everlasting-Grace

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rogerg said:
I was going to try to be nice to you which by nature is not an easy task for me. I have no inherent need to have to dialogue with you
so if you're going to be rude, we can stop immediately. As a matter of fact, why don't we do so now before I say something
I'll regret later.
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Sorry,

I am trying to help you see..

You do not appear to be reading correctly.. You can take it as help. or continue on as you are..

I am glad someone confronted me years back..
 
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Everlasting-Grace

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Thunderrr-mental said:
in correct and thats wrong to say this.

Genesis 1

God created mankind in heaven and blessed them

Well mankind here means the life of Jesus was created in one man in heaven Adam. And God blessed them.
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Where do you get this from?

Gen 2

Noticed the gap between 1 and 2

Then God breathed the life of all mankind into Adam
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When it says God breathed lif it literally means God gave them the breath of life. or opened their eyes, or caused them to live.. He created them male and female. induviduals. He did not create a bunch of little jesuses.
 
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rogerg said:
Faith is not what saves. Faith comes from salvation. Christ as the Saviour, saves.
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I'm asking you something based on what you'd written (which I'm not sure I'm understanding you correctly), where you'd said,

rogerg said:
Abraham was the first.
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So, are you saying no persons were "saved" in the 2000 years between Adam and when Abraham existed, or what?
 
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Everlasting-Grace said:
Where do you get this from?



When it says God breathed lif it literally means God gave them the breath of life. or opened their eyes, or caused them to live.. He created them male and female. induviduals. He did not create a bunch of little jesuses.
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your not correct sir I will leave you wondering for a while
 
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Everlasting-Grace said:
I believe there is one truth.

And I believe anyone who thinks they have the 100% truth are decieved.
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It is not our fault you claim to not be able to believe correct/sound doctrine; I'm glad I don't have to face your consequences for your many errors.
 
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