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Peter is speaking at the time to the Jews but HE is applying to all as Acts 2:39 says. Again you don't stop at verse 38 when the context and more revelation are being provided. Jesus said in Acts 1:8
“But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.”
This is in line with what we see in Matthew 28 and Mark 16 sent out to all But first to the Jews NOT only. TO ALL. Are you oness?
“But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.”
This is in line with what we see in Matthew 28 and Mark 16 sent out to all But first to the Jews NOT only. TO ALL. Are you oness?
Peter is not speaking to Gentiles..He doesn't even have that in his mind . Non of the disciples have it in their mind at that time. Peter needs 10 years after Acts 2 to figure it out. With a little help with a vision from heaven. Even then he protests. Its 10 years after Acts 2 before Peter gets the idea 💡.
Acts 11 .
16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
17Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?
18¶When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, THEN hath God ALSO to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.
19¶Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to NONE but unto the JEWS ONLY !!!!
Acts 11 .
16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
17Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?
18¶When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, THEN hath God ALSO to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.
19¶Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to NONE but unto the JEWS ONLY !!!!
Peter is not speaking to Gentiles..He doesn't even have that in his mind . Non of the disciples have it in their mind at that time. Peter needs 10 years after Acts 2 to figure it out. With a little help with a vision from heaven. Even then he protests. Its 10 years after Acts 2 before Peter gets the idea 💡.
Acts 11 .
16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
17Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?
18¶When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, THEN hath God ALSO to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.
19¶Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to NONE but unto the JEWS ONLY !!!!
Acts 11 .
16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
17Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?
18¶When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, THEN hath God ALSO to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.
19¶Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to NONE but unto the JEWS ONLY !!!!
You think Peter is thinking Gentiles lol ?
5I was in the city of Joppa praying: and in a trance I saw a vision, A certain vessel descend, as it had been a great sheet, let down from heaven by four corners; and it came even to me:
6Upon the which when I had fastened mine eyes, I considered, and saw fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
7And I heard a voice saying unto me, Arise, Peter; slay and eat.
8But I said, Not so, Lord: for nothing common or unclean hath at any time entered into my mouth.
9But the voice answered me again from heaven, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
10And this was done three times: and all were drawn up again into heaven.
THIS IS 10 !!! YEARS !!!! AFTER ACTS 2 .
5I was in the city of Joppa praying: and in a trance I saw a vision, A certain vessel descend, as it had been a great sheet, let down from heaven by four corners; and it came even to me:
6Upon the which when I had fastened mine eyes, I considered, and saw fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
7And I heard a voice saying unto me, Arise, Peter; slay and eat.
8But I said, Not so, Lord: for nothing common or unclean hath at any time entered into my mouth.
9But the voice answered me again from heaven, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
10And this was done three times: and all were drawn up again into heaven.
THIS IS 10 !!! YEARS !!!! AFTER ACTS 2 .
Not at all you are refusing to see the very next verse which speaks your Jews only Application.
Your statement here:
"I think my question is more reasonable. I have no issue with being water baptized after one is baptized by the Holy Spirit into the body of Christ . My issue is with all this nonsense about Acts 2.38 being used for Gentiles.
Acts 2.38 is not for Jews or Gentiles today. It was specific for the Jewish audience Peter was addressing at that time. "
IS wrong Acts 2:38 is also for the Gentiles because Acts 2:39 says so.
Your statement here:
"I think my question is more reasonable. I have no issue with being water baptized after one is baptized by the Holy Spirit into the body of Christ . My issue is with all this nonsense about Acts 2.38 being used for Gentiles.
Acts 2.38 is not for Jews or Gentiles today. It was specific for the Jewish audience Peter was addressing at that time. "
IS wrong Acts 2:38 is also for the Gentiles because Acts 2:39 says so.
it does not matter that Acts 2:38 is not addressing the gentiles at that time Acts 2:39 does in context to ALL who so ever will be called.
You are being legalistic and dogmatic of one verse. YOu see the message in Acts 2 as exclusionary, not a call for all to repent which is the Message of the whole Bible from Genesis to REV.
You are being legalistic and dogmatic of one verse. YOu see the message in Acts 2 as exclusionary, not a call for all to repent which is the Message of the whole Bible from Genesis to REV.
I never said Peter was a Gentile, but he was a Greek-speaking Jew.
Don't build strawmen ok, FYI Acts chapter 2:38 was not written the day it was recorded by Luke Sorry to tell you that LOL So that means very likely Acts chapter 2 and 10 were written on the same day years after they happened.
YOur point is mote.
Don't build strawmen ok, FYI Acts chapter 2:38 was not written the day it was recorded by Luke Sorry to tell you that LOL So that means very likely Acts chapter 2 and 10 were written on the same day years after they happened.
YOur point is mote.
It says to YOUR children. Who's Children? Peter is not thinking gentiles until ten years after this, and it's God who has to show him by the Cornelius event. The vision ect . Peter and the diciples are not in rebellion . Jesus told them not to go to the gentiles .
look at this verse in Acts 11 .
19¶Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to none but unto the Jews only.JEWS ONLY ..how are you missing this?
look at this verse in Acts 11 .
19¶Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to none but unto the Jews only.JEWS ONLY ..how are you missing this?
Peter is not talking to Gentiies. Read it .
14¶But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:
22¶Ye men of ISREAL , hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:
Acts 3 .
12And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of ISRAEL , why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk?
Acts 4
8¶Then Peter, filled with the Holy Ghost, said unto them, Ye rulers of the people, and elders of ISRAEL ,
10Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of ISRAEL , that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
14¶But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:
22¶Ye men of ISREAL , hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:
Acts 3 .
12And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of ISRAEL , why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk?
Acts 4
8¶Then Peter, filled with the Holy Ghost, said unto them, Ye rulers of the people, and elders of ISRAEL ,
10Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of ISRAEL , that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.