Calvinist Kitchen...stirring the pot

[Guojing]

I believe in Jesus Christ.

But you just said you believe all of us have a choice whether or not to receive him right?

 

[Duskey]

But you just said you believe all of us have a choice whether or not to receive him right?

John 3:16-18

 

[Guojing]

John 3:16-18

So you do believe atonement is limited to those who believe in Jesus right, according to that passage?

 

[jackrosie]

He gives us the opportunity to receive Him. It’s our choice to do so or not. 😉

So....you chose God?.....I choose to receive you God?

 

[jackrosie]

I believe in Jesus Christ.

I!


Believe in Jesus Christ........is the Lord in your heart?

How do you know he resides in your heart?.........that’s if he does.

 

[jackrosie]

But you just said you believe all of us have a choice whether or not to receive him right?

He said.......... “I”...........believe in Jesus Christ,.....how can he believe in Christ in his own strength?

God brings you to a place of believing/ receiving faith......how can we bring ourselves to that place...we can’t.

We are saved by God......it sounds like he saved himself.

 

[jackrosie]

I!


Believe in Jesus Christ........is the Lord in your heart?

How do you know he resides in your heart?.........that’s if he does.

When I say .........”I”..............I mean you,that’s what you said.......are you saying,that is what you did.....then you were saved?

By saying. “I”...........

 

[jackrosie]

As in every case he must do the first works, as our first love experience of hearing God not seen.

No man of his own volition can come they must hear the call . it gives them the understanding as to how they then can seek after him who has no form .

Roamns 3:10-12 As the Scriptures say, “There is no one doing what is right, not even one. There is no one who understands. There is no one who is trying to be with God. They have all turned away from him, and now they are of no use to anyone. There is no one who does good, not even one.”

When I was saved..God spoke directly to my Spirit..it was irresistible and I heard.....received him there and then,straight into my heart.

I think a couple on here have head knowledge...but no heart knowledge......you see great change in a true born again after salvation.

I was wrong about being deceived..I was adamant I was right.....but God showed me..it’s not about what you think JR..it’s my word. Not yours.

Dusky thought it funny me saying that?....why I wonder.

 

[NOV25]

Free will’r: Jesus died for everyone!
Grace’r: So you believe in an unlimited atonement?
Free will’r: What's atonement mean?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

So....you chose God?.....I choose to receive you God?

You been listening to someone to much and not listening to what others say. He did not say he chose God. He said he chose to receive the gift God offered

Huge difference

 

[jackrosie]

Free will’r: Jesus died for everyone!
Grace’r: So you believe in an unlimited atonement?
Free will’r: What's atonement mean?

I don’t understand that...can you explain what it means?

God saved me..I played no part in it.

 

[jackrosie]

You been listening to someone to much and not listening to what others say. He did not say he chose God. He said he chose to receive the gift God offered

Huge difference

I don’t understand how he chose?

I never chose..I was chosen by God....I never had a say in being saved...that was God’s plan before I was even born..he Also chose me to Glorify His Name above all names.
Everything is about God......not me and I.

You are throwing accusations around again on who I’ve been listening to....stop it please.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I don’t understand how he chose?

I never chose..I was chosen by God....I never had a say in being saved...that was God’s plan before I was even born..he Also chose me to Glorify His Name above all names.
Everything is about God......not me and I.

You are throwing accusations around again on who I’ve been listening to....stop it please.

your accusing others of choosing god when they did not.

If you want me to stop accusing you then stop repeating the words they use

 

[jackrosie]

I don’t understand how he chose?

I never chose..I was chosen by God....I never had a say in being saved...that was God’s plan before I was even born..he Also chose me to Glorify His Name above all names.
Everything is about God......not me and I.

You are throwing accusations around again on who I’ve been listening to....stop it please.

I don’t understand how he chose to receive the gift of God?

We don’t choose to receive God.....sorry I disagree.

 

[jackrosie]

your accusing others of choosing god when they did not.

If you want me to stop accusing you then stop repeating the words they use

Answer my question please.

 

[NOV25]

...God saved me..I played no part in it.

Me too @jackrosie me too.

The doctrine of unlimited atonement or universal atonement claims Jesus died for every sin committed by all mankind.

The doctrine of limited atonement or definite atonement claims Jesus died for each specific sin of only those who believe.

Basically...

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Answer my question please.

What question?

 

[preacher4truth]

@jackrosie you are not misrepresenting others by saying they believe they chose God as you are being accused. Several here teach it, I've quoted some of it.

It is exactly what many here teach, and it is part of the free will error.

 

[jackrosie]

What question?

If you look at Dusky reply...he said ..”..I”.........I plays no part in being saved

God does the saving......not...........”I”........

 

[jackrosie]

@jackrosie you are not misrepresenting others by saying they believe they chose God as you are being accused. Several here teach it, I've quoted some of it.

It is exactly what many here teach, and it is part of the free will error.

Indeed...I agree preacher....you are so right....