Calvin did not invent the doctrines of grace

[Magenta]

Our experience of truth is echoed in our words...

That experience is of truth itself, our words are merely an attempt to express that...

It is the same for the authors of the bible, always truth is filtered through the given consciousness...

Scripture says otherwise.

Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture comes from one’s own interpretation. For no such prophecy
was ever brought forth by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

 

[FrankSophia]

Scripture says otherwise.

Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture comes from one’s own interpretation. For no such prophecy
was ever brought forth by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

2 Corinthians 3:1-18 disagrees with you.

Also, 1 Corinthians 13:1-13 conveys the importance of prophecy...

Ultimately all prophecy is irrelevant...

 

[rogerg]

When I give Christians quotes from the New Testament they reject them for the Torah...

If there was a valid church I would join.

No verse of prophecy is of any private interpretation: for a doctrine to be considered valid it must
be scrutinized and found correct against the whole word of God - not just by one verse. Maybe you didn't do that.

 

[FrankSophia]

No verse of prophecy is of any private interpretation: for a doctrine to be considered valid it must
be scrutinized and found correct against the whole word of God - not just by one verse. Maybe you didn't do that.

I have not even limited my interpretation to Christianity alone but find the same truth across every tradition I have engaged...

I do this via Ephesians 2:11-22 for when what is distinct is dropped there is only one, Galatians 3:28-29

 

[Cameron143]

I have not even limited my interpretation to Christianity alone but find the same truth across every tradition I have engaged...

I do this via Ephesians 2:11-22 for when what is distinct is dropped there is only one, Galatians 3:28-29

Do you not see how you have made yourself the authority of truth?

 

[Magenta]

2 Corinthians 3:1-18 disagrees with you.

No it does not. It says what I did:

You show that you are a letter from Christ, the result of our ministry,
written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God.

 

[FrankSophia]

Do you not see how you have made yourself the authority of truth?

The Spirit has made me an authority...

I am merely sharing according to it.

 

[FrankSophia]

No it does not. It says what I did:

You show that you are a letter from Christ, the result of our ministry,
written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God.

You are making the ink your God.

 

[rogerg]

I have not even limited my interpretation to Christianity alone but find the same truth across every tradition I have engaged...

I do this via Ephesians 2:11-22 for when what is distinct is dropped there is only one, Galatians 3:28-29

Your reference to Eph 2:11-22 makes no sense to me relative to the
point we were discussing. Galatians 3:28 - 29 is speaking to those who were made Christians, not everyone.

 

[rogerg]

You are making the ink your God.

No, she is making the one who did the writing, God.

 

[Cameron143]

The Spirit has made me an authority...

I am merely sharing according to it.

The Holy Spirit led the authors of the Bible to write what they did. Where your experience differs from what the Holy Spirit wrote, do you choose to follow scripture or your experience?
How can the Holy Spirit be trusted if He gives conflicting truth?

 

[Magenta]

You are making the ink your God.

God is God and spoke through the prophets. The prophets simply wrote what God directed.

You are a false accuser. We know who is behind that.

 

[FrankSophia]

Your reference to Eph 2:11-22 makes no sense to me relative to the
point we were discussing. Galatians 3:28 - 29 is speaking to those who were made Christians, not everyone.

Your interpretation of those Galatians verses is very superficial... it suggests that overcoming opposites is the way to Christ, that by leaving behind divisions we become the heirs of God.

Ephesians 2:14 is the direct assertion that relates.

 

[FrankSophia]

The Holy Spirit led the authors of the Bible to write what they did. Where your experience differs from what the Holy Spirit wrote, do you choose to follow scripture or your experience?
How can the Holy Spirit be trusted if He gives conflicting truth?

Certainly, but it does not differ.

Your subsequent issues are thus irrelevant.

 

[FrankSophia]

God is God and spoke through the prophets. The prophets simply wrote what God directed.

You are a false accuser. We know who is behind that.

We see in Numbers 11:29 that Moses wanted all to be prophets and have the Spirit.

Yet Hebrews 7:1-28 explains why that wasn't enough.

Why Jesus is necessary.

 

[Cameron143]

Certainly, but it does not differ.

Your subsequent issues are thus irrelevant.

Didn't you at least imply what Paul had written under inspiration of the Spirit was in error?

 

[FrankSophia]

Didn't you at least imply what Paul had written under inspiration of the Spirit was in error?

I have said something more subtle: he is inspired but personal bias still arises.

 

[Magenta]

I have not even limited my interpretation to Christianity alone but find the same truth across every tradition I have engaged

Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me."

Again you contradict Scripture.

 

[FrankSophia]

Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me."

Again you contradict Scripture.

No, I point at its meaning.

 

[Cameron143]

I have said something more subtle: he is inspired but personal bias still arises.

Personal bias isn't inspired, is it?