Are WOMEN Pastors Biblical??
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Now we talking about bible church, if your church is not doing miraculous stuff with tongues and interpretation and prophecy your church is not bible.
You can make up all kind of fancy doctrines and excuses for not doing these things but you are not bible.
The way you appoint your leaders is not bible and the way you minister and function is not bible ... yet you are telling everybody else that they are not bible.
You can make up all kind of fancy doctrines and excuses for not doing these things but you are not bible.
The way you appoint your leaders is not bible and the way you minister and function is not bible ... yet you are telling everybody else that they are not bible.
Elders are called "shepherds" and "pastor" is the translation for "poimen" (which means shepherd). So you are totally off base in this matter. Pastor/elder/bishops are the shepherds and overseers of the flocks of local churches.
1 PETER 5: THE DUTIES AND PROPER ATTITUDE OF PASTOR/ELDER/BISHOPS
1 The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed:
2 Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;
3 Neither as being lords over God's heritage, but being ensamples to the flock.
4 And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away.
Actual shepherds feed their flocks and also take oversight of them (watch over them). This analogy applies in churches. Hence the Chief Shepherd (Christ) will hold the pastors accountable for failing to do both these duties (which is more common than not).
1 PETER 5: THE DUTIES AND PROPER ATTITUDE OF PASTOR/ELDER/BISHOPS
1 The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed:
2 Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;
3 Neither as being lords over God's heritage, but being ensamples to the flock.
4 And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away.
Actual shepherds feed their flocks and also take oversight of them (watch over them). This analogy applies in churches. Hence the Chief Shepherd (Christ) will hold the pastors accountable for failing to do both these duties (which is more common than not).
I was not speaking to you I was asking a question to someone else But I enjoy your comments 
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NOw yes of course the bible is 100% Correct but is your application? I asked where does it say " women can't be pastors ". The truth is the bible has no language that stated that. it is seen in the context of Qaulification for a Bishop which is like a Pastor. That was what I was hoping one of you would say, But you or none of you self-proclaimed Theologians did.
many here just spew false narrative.
.NOw yes of course the bible is 100% Correct but is your application? I asked where does it say " women can't be pastors ". The truth is the bible has no language that stated that. it is seen in the context of Qaulification for a Bishop which is like a Pastor. That was what I was hoping one of you would say, But you or none of you self-proclaimed Theologians did.
many here just spew false narrative.
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I have evering already said in this regard in a former post to Angela.
I know that the mayority today would support your view.
You cant change my understanding from the scripture and I cant change yours.
If you would study the use of eldest and bishop in the NT you would find out that they have the same dutys and responsibilitys
I know that the mayority today would support your view.
You cant change my understanding from the scripture and I cant change yours.
If you would study the use of eldest and bishop in the NT you would find out that they have the same dutys and responsibilitys
I do not critisise, i gave answer to the OP question.
I am not in the position to apoint Ministers.
I am no eldest ore leader of any church.
But I can tell you what the bible says in this OP question. And I already did.
I am belong to non denomination, because in heaven we will also have non. ( in the church i am in my place i dont agree with all their teachings. The Alternative would be to leave this church and be without church.
I am not in the position to apoint Ministers.
I am no eldest ore leader of any church.
But I can tell you what the bible says in this OP question. And I already did.
I am belong to non denomination, because in heaven we will also have non. ( in the church i am in my place i dont agree with all their teachings. The Alternative would be to leave this church and be without church.
First, GINOLJC, to all. this is an initialism for
Greeting
In
the
Name
Of
the
Lord
Jesus
the
Christ
the "t's" in the are not used... for there is no more "cross".... T ...... (smile).
second, definitions are definitions rather or not if Catholic use them or not, a "BISHOP" is in the Bible, and "Helper" identify the Bishop as in Roman 16:3. so why start a tread on Catholic religion when you cannot get the one you're in now, RIGHT? as the scriptures states, Matthew 7:3 "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?" Matthew 7:4 "Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?" Matthew 7:5 "Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye."
then you said, "And YOU have the audacity to call other people ignorant???
WHERE in all of that doe we read that Priscilla and Aquila were ORDAINED PASTORS??????". did you not READ
Romans 16:3 "Greet Priscilla and Aquila my helpers in Christ Jesus:" THE BIBLE JUST TOLD YOU..... duh? see the Holy Ghost by his apostle said, "Now I would not have you ignorant, brethren". THIS IS MY GOAL.
and as for the quote, you made "you are embarrassing yourself my friend". "silly back and forth?" are you kidding me? ... are yourself.....
I rather embarrass myself, instead of being ashame of CHRIST. LISTEN,
1 Corinthians 4:9 "For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men."
1 Corinthians 4:10 "We are fools for Christ's sake, but ye are wise in Christ; we are weak, but ye are strong; ye are honourable, but we are despised."
1 Corinthians 4:11 "Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwellingplace;"
1 Corinthians 4:12 "And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:"
1 Corinthians 4:13 "Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day."
1 Corinthians 4:14 "I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you."
I rather be a "FOOL" for Christ, than for men, nor for the wisdom of this world. in God I have hope, but men.... nothing.
so lastly, what I posted is Irrefragable... thought so.
PICJAG,
101G
and if you care to know what "PICJAG" means? as the apostle said above in verse 12, "being reviled, we bless". PICJAG means,
Peace
In
Christ
Jesus
the
Almight
God
being reviled, ............. we bless with the "PEACE" of the Lord Jesus the Christ, the Almighty God.
Greeting
In
the
Name
Of
the
Lord
Jesus
the
Christ
the "t's" in the are not used... for there is no more "cross".... T ...... (smile).
second, definitions are definitions rather or not if Catholic use them or not, a "BISHOP" is in the Bible, and "Helper" identify the Bishop as in Roman 16:3. so why start a tread on Catholic religion when you cannot get the one you're in now, RIGHT? as the scriptures states, Matthew 7:3 "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?" Matthew 7:4 "Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?" Matthew 7:5 "Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye."
then you said, "And YOU have the audacity to call other people ignorant???
WHERE in all of that doe we read that Priscilla and Aquila were ORDAINED PASTORS??????". did you not READ
Romans 16:3 "Greet Priscilla and Aquila my helpers in Christ Jesus:" THE BIBLE JUST TOLD YOU..... duh? see the Holy Ghost by his apostle said, "Now I would not have you ignorant, brethren". THIS IS MY GOAL.
and as for the quote, you made "you are embarrassing yourself my friend". "silly back and forth?" are you kidding me? ... are yourself.....
I rather embarrass myself, instead of being ashame of CHRIST. LISTEN,
1 Corinthians 4:9 "For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men."
1 Corinthians 4:10 "We are fools for Christ's sake, but ye are wise in Christ; we are weak, but ye are strong; ye are honourable, but we are despised."
1 Corinthians 4:11 "Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwellingplace;"
1 Corinthians 4:12 "And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:"
1 Corinthians 4:13 "Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day."
1 Corinthians 4:14 "I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you."
I rather be a "FOOL" for Christ, than for men, nor for the wisdom of this world. in God I have hope, but men.... nothing.
so lastly, what I posted is Irrefragable... thought so.
PICJAG,
101G
and if you care to know what "PICJAG" means? as the apostle said above in verse 12, "being reviled, we bless". PICJAG means,
Peace
In
Christ
Jesus
the
Almight
God
being reviled, ............. we bless with the "PEACE" of the Lord Jesus the Christ, the Almighty God.
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I was not speaking to you I was asking a question to someone else But I enjoy your comments .
NOw yes of course the bible is 100% Correct but is your application? I asked where does it say " women can't be pastors ". The truth is the bible has no language that stated that. it is seen in the context of Qaulification for a Bishop which is like a Pastor. That was what I was hoping one of you would say, But you or none of you self-proclaimed Theologians did.
many here just spew false narrative.
.NOw yes of course the bible is 100% Correct but is your application? I asked where does it say " women can't be pastors ". The truth is the bible has no language that stated that. it is seen in the context of Qaulification for a Bishop which is like a Pastor. That was what I was hoping one of you would say, But you or none of you self-proclaimed Theologians did.
many here just spew false narrative.
The Bible does not say in the specific words....."Women can not be Pastors".
In the qualifications to be a Pastors.....Paul said "that if a MAN desires to be a Bishop HE must be........."!
To me, that is self explanatory and the actual words that a woman can not be a bishop is not needed.
Again.....please be CORRECT in your accusations......I have NEVER claimed to be a theologian any more than you have claimed to be a corrective advisor of what is said.
I am nothing but an old country boy from Alabama who did NOTHING but post the EXACT words from the Bible. Go back and see from the 1st post in this thread if I said I was anything other that what I just said.
I simply read the Bible. Believe it and accept it.
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