ARE WE THERE YET? 666

[iamsoandso]

Destruction of earth by flood(literal not a metaphor). called out Abram/Abraham (literal not metaphor) servitude in Egypt(literal not metaphor),,,destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah(literal not metaphor).

Bondage in Babylon,(literal),in Media/Persia(literal),Greece(literal),Rome,(literal),,,

Birth of Jesus(literal), Death,Burial and Resurrection of Jesus(literal not a metaphor)...destruction of Jerusalem(literal)...

Nothing in eschatology up to Revelation was fortold and then was fulfilled metaphorically. Why do some entertain the idea that God who never changes would foretell things and acomplish them liteally over and over and then just when he has established that what he says will be fulfilled metahorically instead of literally? It's literal God never changes his method of operation!!!!

 

[VCO]

Destruction of earth by flood(literal not a metaphor). called out Abram/Abraham (literal not metaphor) servitude in Egypt(literal not metaphor),,,destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah(literal not metaphor).

Bondage in Babylon,(literal),in Media/Persia(literal),Greece(literal),Rome,(literal),,,

Birth of Jesus(literal), Death,Burial and Resurrection of Jesus(literal not a metaphor)...destruction of Jerusalem(literal)...

Nothing in eschatology up to Revelation was fortold and then was fulfilled metaphorically. Why do some entertain the idea that God who never changes would foretell things and acomplish them liteally over and over and then just when he has established that what he says will be fulfilled metahorically instead of literally? It's literal God never changes his method of operation!!!!

I absolutely believe that NOTHING HAS BEEN FULFILLED from Revelation Chapter 4 on, had been fulfilled; AND IT WILL BE SOON LITERALLY. Your interpretation will happen metaphorically AND of course those who BELIEVE it already happened metaphorically, are in error. The secret is you must understand the SYMBOLISM in Revelation, before you can understand that it will be LITERAL.

 

[VCO]

There's a good chance the mark wont be the chip. People are going to choose the chip because it's going to alter dna, and actually fix some physical problems (some of the problems they are purposely creating). The slaves will see it as a positive thing. It will also interact with the 5g system for control. That's how the beast will be able to kill off so many without being anywhere near them. The whole world wanted the thing that will enslave them.

There's a possibility the mark will be for sunday worship to the beast (he wants to be worshipped more than anything), and sunday worship was brought in by the catholic church. It's never been biblical. And obviously, with the tech available, nobody will actually have to go to a church etc. Just be in front of their own scrying mirror (tv or phone).

So, before some of you write lots of lol's etc etc.

"There is nothing hidden that shall not be revealed"

"But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. "

"And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men"

"And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. "

"He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal"

But always remember, despite what we know is coming:
"For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. "

Blessings

Tone

So that is what the Seventh Day Adventist believe now? Sorry, I believe it will be a chip, putting the WHOLE WORLD'S POPULATION on a Unified Bank System , AFTER the World's Banks go bankrupt. That chip will be your Bank Account, your Health Benefits, your Health Records, your Mortgage Payment, or Income Tax Record, your Credit Card, your I.D., and Drivers License. That is why they will need to add the three extra number, to accommodate the WHOLE WOLD's Population. Current RFID chips have a 15 digit within them, add 1 digit to each of 3 digit code, and you will have a PERSONAL ID numer like this: 123456-123456-123456, and every single number will be different. And where you get they will alter DNA? As far as I am concerned, that is pure Psuedo SCIENCE myth. HOWEVER, I will not be here, because I personally have an invitation to GO TO A WEDDING IN HEAVEN. BUT IT WILL HAPPEN LITERALLY. Here is the smallest RFID chip:

 

[iamsoandso]

I absolutely believe that NOTHING HAS BEEN FULFILLED from Revelation Chapter 4 on, had been fulfilled; AND IT WILL BE SOON LITERALLY. Your interpretation will happen metaphorically AND of course those who BELIEVE it already happened metaphorically, are in error. The secret is you must understand the SYMBOLISM in Revelation, before you can understand that it will be LITERAL.

Revelation is a hard thing to see. It's called Revelation yet we all struggle to find it like it's hidden. The definition of parable,metaphor,allegory ect. would probably be helpful in examining Revelation.Which of the three best describe it if any?

 

[VCO]

Revelation is a hard thing to see. It's called Revelation yet we all struggle to find it like it's hidden. The definition of parable,metaphor,allegory ect. would probably be helpful in examining Revelation.Which of the three best describe it if any?

No, IT WAS MY SPIRITUAL MILK, LITERALLY. IT IS EASY FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND, because I BELIEVE IT LITERALLY. BUT I AM A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN, which means I HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT IN ME TO EXPLAIN IT TO ME.

 

[iamsoandso]

No, IT WAS MY SPIRITUAL MILK, LITERALLY. IT IS EASY FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND, because I BELIEVE IT LITERALLY. BUT I AM A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN, which means I HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT IN ME TO EXPLAIN IT TO ME.

So your saying Daniel 12:4-6 has already been fulfilled?

 

[InChristalone44]

Did you know Steve Jobs sold his first computer for $666.66 and calls it apple, coincidence? Well tech”knowledge” y is here and AI freaks me out. Anyway, I believe the mark could be spiritual but people being chipped is a sign of what season and times we are in, also we could very well be raptured before the mark and would make it easy for the antichrist to control the masses because their will only be non believers left behind. Just a thought

 

[garee]

There's a good chance the mark wont be the chip. People are going to choose the chip because it's going to alter dna, and actually fix some physical problems (some of the problems they are purposely creating). The slaves will see it as a positive thing. It will also interact with the 5g system for control. That's how the beast will be able to kill off so many without being anywhere near them. The whole world wanted the thing that will enslave them.

There's a possibility the mark will be for sunday worship to the beast (he wants to be worshipped more than anything), and sunday worship was brought in by the catholic church. It's never been biblical. And obviously, with the tech available, nobody will actually have to go to a church etc. Just be in front of their own scrying mirror (tv or phone).

So, before some of you write lots of lol's etc etc.

"There is nothing hidden that shall not be revealed"

"But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. "

"And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men"

"And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. "

"He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal"

But always remember, despite what we know is coming:
"For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. "

Blessings

Tone

The 666 mark is the mark of Cain the mark of natural unconverted man that sees no value in a God unseen. This was seen when God sent Abel to talk with him about the things of God . Cain slew Abel. Esau would be another that saw no value in the unseen things of God and sold his birth rite He carried the mark identifying himself as restless wanderer receiving no rest from believing God .In proverbs we are informed to buy spiritual truth and not sell it .Cain would not buy the gospel be believing it and Esau sold it for a cup of soup.

Cain said the punishment of not having any rest that could come from Christ was more than he could bear. being more than anyone could bear other that Christ in God who did rest on the seventh day as the rest we enter into when we do not harden our hearts

And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear. Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a "mark"upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him. Genesis 4:13-15

The mark is unseen we walk by faith the unseen .There was no outward signs promised. The last was the sign of Jonas. Its a evil generation as in natural man that has the mark. They must walk after the natural course of this world .The lust of the eye and lust of flesh providing false pride of this life

Seem like the evolution of a signs and wonder gospel is still evolving. First it was a tattoo or a literal mark and then technology advanced it evolved then became a implant .What's next retina identification or some sort of heat identifier satellite giving a personal image for each person ?

We are already informed he will come like in the days of Noah a thief in the night...business as usual buying and selling . There will be no outward sign given.

But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be Mathew 24:37-39

 

[garee]

Did you know Steve Jobs sold his first computer for $666.66 and calls it apple, coincidence? Well tech”knowledge” y is here and AI freaks me out. Anyway, I believe the mark could be spiritual but people being chipped is a sign of what season and times we are in, also we could very well be raptured before the mark and would make it easy for the antichrist to control the masses because their will only be non believers left behind. Just a thought

The antichrist father of lies, Satan controls the masses by causing men to commit blasphemy of the Holy Spirit . Hardening their hearts refusing to believe in a God not seen.

We do not wrestle against flesh and blood, the things seen, like a sign and wonder gospel . But do wrestles against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Not seen.

We are to buy his truth as the armor of God and not sell it as a sign because men see no value in believing God

Ephesians 6:11-13 King James Version (KJV) Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

 

[garee]

So your saying Daniel 12:4-6 has already been fulfilled?

If it is speaking of sealed till the end it must represent the seven seals in which the warning not to add or subtract has come.

Knowledge of God increased up until the last book was written . No new knowledge is need we have the perfect.

And thou, O Daniel, hide the things, and seal the book till the time of the end, many do go to and fro, and knowledge is multiplied.'Daniel 12;4

 

[iamsoandso]

If it is speaking of sealed till the end it must represent the seven seals in which the warning not to add or subtract has come.

Knowledge of God increased up until the last book was written . No new knowledge is need we have the perfect.

And thou, O Daniel, hide the things, and seal the book till the time of the end, many do go to and fro, and knowledge is multiplied.'Daniel 12;4

What about Revelation 11:3-7 when the two witnesses prophesy?(bare in mind the very book your referring to states in it's text that the two witnesses will come and prophesy),,,

So is it the last book written or when the two witnesses come and prophesy is that when knowledge is increased and Daniel 12:4 is fulfilled?,(bare in mind again that in Revelation chapter 5 scripture states that Jesus was found worthy to open it after/because he was "SLAIN" so none of it was looked upon in Daniel,Matthew 24,Mark 13, Luke 21 ect. because that was before he was slain.)

 

[iamsoandso]

The 666 mark is the mark of Cain the mark of natural unconverted man that sees no value in a God unseen. This was seen when God sent Abel to talk with him about the things of God . Cain slew Abel. Esau would be another that saw no value in the unseen things of God and sold his birth rite He carried the mark identifying himself as restless wanderer receiving no rest from believing God .In proverbs we are informed to buy spiritual truth and not sell it .Cain would not buy the gospel be believing it and Esau sold it for a cup of soup.

Cain said the punishment of not having any rest that could come from Christ was more than he could bear. being more than anyone could bear other that Christ in God who did rest on the seventh day as the rest we enter into when we do not harden our hearts

And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear. Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a "mark"upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him. Genesis 4:13-15

The mark is unseen we walk by faith the unseen .There was no outward signs promised. The last was the sign of Jonas. Its a evil generation as in natural man that has the mark. They must walk after the natural course of this world .The lust of the eye and lust of flesh providing false pride of this life

Seem like the evolution of a signs and wonder gospel is still evolving. First it was a tattoo or a literal mark and then technology advanced it evolved then became a implant .What's next retina identification or some sort of heat identifier satellite giving a personal image for each person ?

We are already informed he will come like in the days of Noah a thief in the night...business as usual buying and selling . There wi ll be no outward sign given.

But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be Mathew 24:37-39

If the mark of the beast existed when Cain was alive then the 7 headed beast and the two horned beast would have to have existed before Cain,(bare in mind that in Revelation 13:11-12 the two horned beast comes after the 7 headed beast and neither of them were in existence when Cain was alive)...

 

[VCO]

So your saying Daniel 12:4-6 has already been fulfilled?

NO! Daniel's 70th WEEK, comes immediately after the CHURCH-age. Most evangelical Churches consider Revelation and Historical Books like Daniel, to be Spiritual MILK, suitable for Babies in Christ to Understand and I was interested in the teaching of Revelation, because I saw the Film "The Late Great Planet Earth", and I wanted to see were that film differed with the BIBLE. The very first BIBLE TEACHER that I really listened to after I was BORN AGAIN, was Dr. John MacArthur, Jr. The FIRST Sermon that I listened to was A Jet Tour Through Revelation. Let me break it down for you:

Spiritual Milk = are the GOSPELS, Bible that contains History, Prophecy, and Revelation.

Bible Books for when you are able to digest a Diet of BREAD = are the LAW and the Consequences of SIN.

You have to mix the HONEY of the WORD in with that BREAD = are the Promises of GOD, Proverbs, and Books like Song of Songs.

Strong Meat = are the EPISTLES, and are appropriate for the advanced Bible Student.


So YES, I started out listening to Dr. John MacArthur, Jr. teach all the way Through Revelation, and recorded every single Message, and over the next seven years, I listened to those cassette tapes at least three more times.

Here are the EXACT Dr. MacArthur Sermons on Revelation that I listened too:

https://www.gty.org/library/resources/sermons-library/scripture/1?book=66&chapter=0

 

[iamsoandso]

NO! Daniel's 70th WEEK, comes immediately after the CHURCH-age. Most evangelical Churches consider Revelation and Historical Books like Daniel, to be Spiritual MILK, suitable for Babies in Christ to Understand and I was interested in the teaching of Revelation, because I saw the Film "The Late Great Planet Earth", and I wanted to see were that film differed with the BIBLE. The very first BIBLE TEACHER that I really listened to after I was BORN AGAIN, was Dr. John MacArthur, Jr. The FIRST Sermon that I listened to was A Jet Tour Through Revelation. Let me break it down for you:

Spiritual Milk = are the GOSPELS, Bible that contains History, Prophecy, and Revelation.

Bible Books for when you are able to digest a Diet of BREAD = are the LAW and the Consequences of SIN.

You have to mix the HONEY of the WORD in with that BREAD = are the Promises of GOD, Proverbs, and Books like Song of Songs.

Strong Meat = are the EPISTLES, and are appropriate for the advanced Bible Student.


So YES, I started out listening to Dr. John MacArthur, Jr. teach all the way Through Revelation, and recorded every single Message, and over the next seven years, I listened to those cassette tapes at least three more times.

Here are the EXACT Dr. MacArthur Sermons on Revelation that I listened too:

https://www.gty.org/library/resources/sermons-library/scripture/1?book=66&chapter=0

NO! Daniel's 70th WEEK, comes immediately after the CHURCH-age. Most evangelical Churches consider Revelation and Historical Books like Daniel, to be Spiritual MILK, suitable for Babies in Christ to Understand and I was interested in the teaching of Revelation, because I saw the Film "The Late Great Planet Earth", and I wanted to see were that film differed with the BIBLE. The very first BIBLE TEACHER that I really listened to after I was BORN AGAIN, was Dr. John MacArthur, Jr. The FIRST Sermon that I listened to was A Jet Tour Through Revelation. Let me break it down for you:

Spiritual Milk = are the GOSPELS, Bible that contains History, Prophecy, and Revelation.

Bible Books for when you are able to digest a Diet of BREAD = are the LAW and the Consequences of SIN.

You have to mix the HONEY of the WORD in with that BREAD = are the Promises of GOD, Proverbs, and Books like Song of Songs.

Strong Meat = are the EPISTLES, and are appropriate for the advanced Bible Student.


So YES, I started out listening to Dr. John MacArthur, Jr. teach all the way Through Revelation, and recorded every single Message, and over the next seven years, I listened to those cassette tapes at least three more times.

Here are the EXACT Dr. MacArthur Sermons on Revelation that I listened too:

https://www.gty.org/library/resources/sermons-library/scripture/1?book=66&chapter=0

Lets back up to post 201&202 of your thread. ,,,,That the knowledge that was to be increased was suppressed in Daniel 11-12 and would be suppressed until the times of the end ect.


And then reflect back on your post #305,(which is what I'm asking you about from post #305),,,

So in post 305 you state that all of this has been revealed to you and you can understand it. So has knowledge been increased and that is fulfilled so you can understand it or has it not been fulfilled yet(review your last several post)?

No offense intended to you or Dr. MacArthur but isn't it like saying were gonna surf through C.C. and find another human being talking about this subject and quoting them? What's wrong with your and mine's opinions,were human too right?

 

[InChristalone44]

The antichrist father of lies, Satan controls the masses by causing men to commit blasphemy of the Holy Spirit . Hardening their hearts refusing to believe in a God not seen.

We do not wrestle against flesh and blood, the things seen, like a sign and wonder gospel . But do wrestles against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Not seen.

We are to buy his truth as the armor of God and not sell it as a sign because men see no value in believing God

Ephesians 6:11-13 King James Version (KJV) Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

Amen!

 

[VCO]

Lets back up to post 201&202 of your thread. ,,,,That the knowledge that was to be increased was suppressed in Daniel 11-12 and would be suppressed until the times of the end ect.


And then reflect back on your post #305,(which is what I'm asking you about from post #305),,,

So in post 305 you state that all of this has been revealed to you and you can understand it. So has knowledge been increased and that is fulfilled so you can understand it or has it not been fulfilled yet(review your last several post)?

No offense intended to you or Dr. MacArthur but isn't it like saying were gonna surf through C.C. and find another human being talking about this subject and quoting them? What's wrong with your and mine's opinions,were human too right?

Do you even KNOW what making Disciples MEANS?


Matthew 28:19-20 (HCSB)
19 Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
20 teaching them to observe everything I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”

My opinion IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN TAUGHT, my men with more education than I have.

Here are the MEN that had a major influence in Discipling ME, and you are not one of them:


"Grace to You" Radio Program by Dr. John MacArthur
"Sound Words" by Dr. Gil Rugh
"Insight for Living" by Chuck Swindoll
"Winning Walk" by Dr. Ed Young, Sr.
"In Touch Ministries" by Dr. Charles Stanley
"Love Worth Finding" by Dr. Adrian Rodgers
"There's Hope!" by Dr. Richard Lee
"Changed Lives" by Dr. Ben Haden
"Zola Levitt Ministries" by Dr. Zola Levitt

As well as my Local Pastors. YES, I believe EVERY CHRISTIAN is to Disciple those who knows LESS then they do, BUT YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL TO THOSE Whom you CHOSE WHO YOU LISTEN TO. Those are some of the Best Evangelical Pastor in the USA. Doing your own thing, is the surest way that I know of, to end up in BIBLICAL ERROR. NO, I will not debate you on YOUR OPINION vs. MY OPINION.

DISCIPLE:
In all cases it implies that the person not only accepts the views of the teacher, but that he is also in practice an adherent. The word has several applications. In the widest sense it refers to those who accept the teachings of anyone, not only in belief but in life.
The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia.

DISCIPLING:
a person who is a pupil or an adherent of the doctrines of another; follower:

 

[garee]

If the mark of the beast existed when Cain was alive then the 7 headed beast and the two horned beast would have to have existed before Cain,(bare in mind that in Revelation 13:11-12 the two horned beast comes after the 7 headed beast and neither of them were in existence when Cain was alive)...

The beast simply represent the father of lies . The father of lies was there in the beginning selling his lies. The number of head or horn does not change who the legion is. His name is many.

 

[cv5]

Everyonse who has a debit card and the number that is equal to their own name,that they themselves calculated and are useing it aleady have the mark.

The carbon atom = 666....six protons neutrons and electrons.
IMO the Mark will be some kind of Transhumanism/genetic modification....an idol in the Temple.

 

[iamsoandso]

The beast simply represent the father of lies . The father of lies was there in the beginning selling his lies. The number of head or horn does not change who the legion is. His name is many.

lol, We need to either go with Daniel 2:37-38 and agree with Daniel,(he thought Nebuchadnezzar was the head of gold) or come to some reason why the Scriptures say he was the head when he wasn't.

 

[Nebuchadnezzer]

Here is a man.

That theory about Nero, in my opinion, is pure Malarkey. Sorry, and any other SECRET CODE IN THE BIBLE is also Malarkey.


Revelation 13:18 (HCSB)
18 Here is wisdom: The one who has understanding must calculate the number of the beast, because it is the number of a man. His number is 666.