Among Christian Groups today. Who did not pass this verse?

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Aaron56

Aaron56

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If I may...

Paul wrote: “To them God has chosen to make known among the Gentiles the glorious riches of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.”

Now "hope" is not "wish". It is not wishing for something to materialize. Hope is the expectation that what is promised will appear. Hope is based in truth that is established in Christ. The "name it and claim it" doctrine is based on wish. "Christ in us" is based on hope and is secured by the promises of God.

"By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,

This is not about Jesus Christ appearing as a man. This is about Him indwelling the believer. "Christ in us" is central to the saint's life: "Christ in us" gives meaning and purpose to everything we do. By His Spirit in us, the Holy Spirit, we are led moment by moment in the commands of God. We may know what He is doing and have the power to follow His direction.

However,

"..and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world."

Any doctrine that supplants the indwelling of Christ as our guidance for life in the Spirit is Anti-Christ. The Father has entrusted all He has to the Son. It is only by the Son that we have life in Him. Lastly, scriptures must be understood spiritually for the words to bring life to the reader. If they are understood as a rule book or as wise teachings that is Anti-Christ.

Just to bring this closer to home. Denying the Jesus Christ indwells believers might sound like:
"The 10 Commandments are our guide for life."
or even
"Following the scriptures is what makes us holy."
or even
"If we don't get baptized into water the Lord is not in us."
 
homwardbound

homwardbound

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Aaron56 said:
If I may...

Paul wrote: “To them God has chosen to make known among the Gentiles the glorious riches of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.”

Now "hope" is not "wish". It is not wishing for something to materialize. Hope is the expectation that what is promised will appear. Hope is based in truth that is established in Christ. The "name it and claim it" doctrine is based on wish. "Christ in us" is based on hope and is secured by the promises of God.

"By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,

This is not about Jesus Christ appearing as a man. This is about Him indwelling the believer. "Christ in us" is central to the saint's life: "Christ in us" gives meaning and purpose to everything we do. By His Spirit in us, the Holy Spirit, we are led moment by moment in the commands of God. We may know what He is doing and have the power to follow His direction.

However,

"..and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world."

Any doctrine that supplants the indwelling of Christ as our guidance for life in the Spirit is Anti-Christ. The Father has entrusted all He has to the Son. It is only by the Son that we have life in Him. Lastly, scriptures must be understood spiritually for the words to bring life to the reader. If they are understood as a rule book or as wise teachings that is Anti-Christ.

Just to bring this closer to home. Denying the Jesus Christ indwells believers might sound like:
"The 10 Commandments are our guide for life."
or even
"Following the scriptures is what makes us holy."
or even
"If we don't get baptized into water the Lord is not in us."
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and thanks for the dividing of flesh nature and the risen Jesus, giving us his Spirit of God given us in risen Son for us, that went willingly to that cross to reconcile us all first before any new life could ever get given anyone, that had to get done first Acts 1
Then proof, Pentecost happened and it was Father doing the speaking through them to the crowd then, it was not the disciples, it was, yet not
What? Be a willing vessel to God Father in risen Son for you, then you will see and know his voice and be new in love to all too, thank you Aaron for seeing
 
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Godsgood

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Saul of Tarsus who studied in a bible school to Gamaliel and became a religious leader.
Saul became well known as a Pharisee. Despite of the knowledge from The Words of God Taught him by Gamaliel he thrown them all and he humble himself and he admitted that he don't know The One True God.
ACTS 9:3-5
3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:
4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
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Knowing The One True God is The ONLY WAY so that sins may be FORGIVEN .
JEREMIAH 31:34
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
 
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Burn1986

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Godsgood said:
1 JOHN 4:2-3

2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
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Mmm. I guess we could answer the question no one’s asking.
 
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Godsgood

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Godsgood said:
1 JOHN 4:2-3

2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
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When I try to listen with the different groups in Christianity, they only have one statement on Who is Jesus Christ Who Come in The Flesh..
Jesus Christ, the Son of God who came in the flesh.
With that believe they are expressing they are not the Anti Christ.

How about, let God explains to us by means of his words on who is really Jesus Christ who came in The Flesh.

God The Father who sent the Angel to the Jews to announce the good news about Jesus Christ.
According to God The Father, Jesus is The Christ or Savior.
LUKE 2:10-11
10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.
11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

This is why it is very clear to all believers and readers of the Holy Bible, that Jesus Christ is The Savior.

Let us listen to God The Father who is speaking in the Old Testament.
According to God The Father there is no other savior but God The Father alone.
ISAIAH 43:10-11
10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
11 I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour.

Who can reconcile this but God The Father alone.
 
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Godsgood

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Godsgood said:
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When I try to listen with the different groups in Christianity, they only have one statement on Who is Jesus Christ Who Come in The Flesh..
Jesus Christ, the Son of God who came in the flesh.
With that believe they are expressing they are not the Anti Christ.

How about, let God explains to us by means of his words on who is really Jesus Christ who came in The Flesh.

God The Father who sent the Angel to the Jews to announce the good news about Jesus Christ.
According to God The Father, Jesus is The Christ or Savior.
LUKE 2:10-11
10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.
11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

This is why it is very clear to all believers and readers of the Holy Bible, that Jesus Christ is The Savior.

Let us listen to God The Father who is speaking in the Old Testament.
According to God The Father there is no other savior but God The Father alone.
ISAIAH 43:10-11
10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
11 I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour.

Who can reconcile this but God The Father alone.
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In Isaiah 43:10-11 God The Father claimed that God The Father is The Only Savior.

But in these verses. Our Lord Jesus claimed that Our Lord Jesus is The Christ or The Savior. And according to Our Lord, it came from God The Father.
MATTHEW 16:13-16
13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

The question remains.
WHO IS JESUS CHRIST WHO CAME IN THE FLESH?
 
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