A Double Standard in Christianity?
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PS I don't see anything in the verses you shared about a man being put on a woman's head as a covering--so i'm not going to try that! I also don't see anything about a man publicly correcting a potentially deceived woman. Are you reading from the Misogynist Commentary Bible--personally I wouldn't recommend that one.
I know women who far surpass men in biblical understanding. This is such an over generalization. I for one reason out scriptures--I do not take what anyone teaches as truth unless I study it out for myself.
Im not against women preaching. Mixed gender preaching is not something that I have come across though
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I'll try putting a man on my head to cover my head, but I'd prefer a scarf or a cap personally...
oh and that usurping bit....please read the 19th Century Adame Clarke Commentary below. I emphasize the 19th Century since we are now in the 21st century...and yet as I said we seem to be regressing....
oh and that usurping bit....please read the 19th Century Adame Clarke Commentary below. I emphasize the 19th Century since we are now in the 21st century...and yet as I said we seem to be regressing....
Actually, long hair is given to women as a covering...and it represents the authority that is over them in the men of the fellowship.
Therefore, those women who have short hair and also do not cover their heads in some other way, while praying or prophesying in public...are disrespecting the men in their congregation...dishonouring them.
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You cited 9 verses. 3 of the 9 states husband/wife relationship. Not really a majority, no?
The ESV, NRSV are somewhat controversial bible translations ("The ESV is based upon an entirely DIFFERENT Greek text than the King James Bible", "..NRSV is more liberal than the ESV..." - I will certainly read more). In your quoted hyperlinks of the ESV and NRSV there are footnotes that expound the usage as "man" and "woman" not "husband" and "wife". Why choose bibles involved in the gender neutral wars (though I still have to read some more opinions)?
Also translated phrase "But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man..." NOT "But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every husband...". The ἀνδρὸς is used as "husband" in other verses and the root greek is the same as ἀνήρ. Are you cherry picking the meaning within one sentence? I think you would be hard pressed to find a translation of "..Christ is the head of husbands.."
Also, Mounce Reverse interlinear uses syntax/grammar of english to achieve greek, not the other way around (I.e. not exegetical - "In the process, I came up with the term "reverse interlinear." A traditional interlinear maintains Greek word order and alters the English, which makes the English almost unusuable. But if I maintained English word order and altered the Greek, then both the English and Greek are helpful; hence, "reverse interlinear.")
The ESV, NRSV are somewhat controversial bible translations ("The ESV is based upon an entirely DIFFERENT Greek text than the King James Bible", "..NRSV is more liberal than the ESV..." - I will certainly read more). In your quoted hyperlinks of the ESV and NRSV there are footnotes that expound the usage as "man" and "woman" not "husband" and "wife". Why choose bibles involved in the gender neutral wars (though I still have to read some more opinions)?
Also translated phrase "But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man..." NOT "But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every husband...". The ἀνδρὸς is used as "husband" in other verses and the root greek is the same as ἀνήρ. Are you cherry picking the meaning within one sentence? I think you would be hard pressed to find a translation of "..Christ is the head of husbands.."
Also, Mounce Reverse interlinear uses syntax/grammar of english to achieve greek, not the other way around (I.e. not exegetical - "In the process, I came up with the term "reverse interlinear." A traditional interlinear maintains Greek word order and alters the English, which makes the English almost unusuable. But if I maintained English word order and altered the Greek, then both the English and Greek are helpful; hence, "reverse interlinear.")
Based on Corinthian 11 the covering is clearly some type of cloth that would cover the head--it is not referring to one's husband. It's important to note that it is a 'custom' not a regulation. " It was to be practiced when a woman was praying or prophesying in the assembly--that is the Jewish synagogue, where Christian were meeting along with Jews on the Sabbath:
"Every Sabbath he reasoned in the synagogue, trying to persuade Jews and Greeks."--Acts 18:4
"Crispus, the synagogue leader, and his entire household believed in the Lord; and many of the Corinthians who heard Paul believed and were baptized."--Acts 18:18
"Every Sabbath he reasoned in the synagogue, trying to persuade Jews and Greeks."--Acts 18:4
"Crispus, the synagogue leader, and his entire household believed in the Lord; and many of the Corinthians who heard Paul believed and were baptized."--Acts 18:18
"Every Sabbath he reasoned in the synagogue, trying to persuade Jews and Greeks."--Acts 18:4
"Crispus, the synagogue leader, and his entire household believed in the Lord; and many of the Corinthians who heard Paul believed and were baptized."--Acts 18:18
"Every Sabbath he reasoned in the synagogue, trying to persuade Jews and Greeks."--Acts 18:4
"Crispus, the synagogue leader, and his entire household believed in the Lord; and many of the Corinthians who heard Paul believed and were baptized."--Acts 18:18
I have never heard such a thing. If a woman is an adult she has no authority over her except God. How on earth would a father or pastor have authority over an adult woman? Such unbiblical nonsense! JBF, based on your posts and rude responses, I cannot believe that you are a Christian who follow the teachings of Scripture--false teachers are those who begin to make up their own doctrines.
"28 Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood. 29 I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. 30 Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them."--Acts 28-30
Hello Matthew I find it a bit odd when that passage about Eve being deceived while Adam was not is offered up by a male and given as a reason why women should not be accorded any authority, because the impression it gives is that men want to believe that men are never deceived, and obviously that in itself is a deception. Alongside that is also the implication that it is better to deliberately and willfully disobey God than it is to disobey based on not knowing any better. If men were never deceived there would be no false teachings, right? And yet we hear all the time complaints about how far the church has fallen and about this false teacher and that false teacher. By and large the false teachers are always men. Men who have been deceived, and then mislead others...
I find it a bit odd when that passage about Eve being deceived while Adam was not is offered up by a male and given as a reason why women should not be accorded any authority, because the impression it gives is that men want to believe that men are never deceived, and obviously that in itself is a deception. Alongside that is also the implication that it is better to deliberately and willfully disobey God than it is to disobey based on not knowing any better. If men were never deceived there would be no false teachings, right? And yet we hear all the time complaints about how far the church has fallen and about this false teacher and that false teacher. By and large the false teachers are always men. Men who have been deceived, and then mislead others...-
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I am not distorting the truth; but you dishonour me because you cannot hear the word that I am speaking to you.
A woman is to have authority on her head because of the angels, in the form of long hair or some other kind of covering that denotes the authority over her of the men in that church. This is what the scriptures plainly teach in 1 Corinthians 11.
A woman is to have authority on her head because of the angels, in the form of long hair or some other kind of covering that denotes the authority over her of the men in that church. This is what the scriptures plainly teach in 1 Corinthians 11.
Operative word being CUSTOM--exactly! I also know of no Christians who currently are meeting in Jewish Synagogues.
We need to use common sense when reading scriptures--to differentiate between customs and commands.
"[36] Master, which is the great commandment in the law? [37] Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. [38] This is the first and great commandment. [39] And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself."--Matthew 22: 36-39
"If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing."--1st Corinthians 13:1