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[convertedsinner]

I was not born in a Christian home, and I accepted Christ later in life. I gave up my past criminal ways and wanted to learn what was the will of God. I threw away my old ways of thinking and dedicated myself to study and learning.
After many years I have concluded that most American Christian are not real Christians.
They fall into 2 camps. The Liberal progressive side and the Conservative side, both are lost and condemned.
The liberal side is easy understand, they don’t follow what the bible says, and they do their own thing, and accept immoral behavior as normal. They think all are saved. When they are really not.
The conservative right side seems like the correct choice but it’s another farce.
They don’t follow what the bible says, they try to be moral but are Self-righteous, and they think they are saved but are not because they are evil.
There are plenty of good material out there talking about how liberalism is bad but hardly anyone talks about the farce of conservative Christendom

For one thing it has a strong idolatry toward Country. (USA),
And they really are full of hate racism and self-righteousness They ARE the modern Pharisees.
Question 1: There is this guy who is persecuting Christian men women and children and wants to make it illegal to be a Christian, with a penalty of death.
Do you A: Kill him
Or B: Forgive him.
That was Saul. Saul was a great sinner but he obtained mercy because God came to save the world.
There are people who want to stone the adulterous women, and don’t understand mercy or forgiveness.
Question 2:
There is an castrated black guy who does not understand the bible.
Do you A: insult him and call him names.
Or do you B: explain the gospel to him and baptize him?
All I mainly see are auto proclaimed Christians making fun of liberals and throwing insults instead of giving the gospel.
Real Christians do need violence, or insults, they found the love of God that calls sinners to forgiveness and righteousness.
America was created by masonic people. The founding fathers of America mentioned God, but it was never the real God, they killed people, schemed, and convinced the people to revolt. And the masoned funded them.
They allowed slavery to happen and killed native American people.
America was funded on blood violence and masonry.
People condemn the Aztecs for sacrifices and war when America is just as evil.
“You Sound like a liberal”
No, I am someone who actually studied history. How much blood has America shed?
Ronald Reagan, was the real drug supplier.
You guys hate George Soros, but then accept whatever the Rockefellers and Rothchilds tell you.
All I have to do is read the comment of you people to see that there is nothing of God inside of you.
All racist Christians complaining about the war on Christian white people, and turn a blind eye to the suffering people who are not white.
Then the racist Christians talk about how they have a better culture and are more evolved when they watch a lot of porn on the internet and are no better that the people they speak ill of.
If someone did something evil to me I would forgive them. I will the turn the other Cheek.
If someone harmed my family I would pray for them.
Paul did not go around trying to force the laws to change. He went preaching the gospel.
And when I saw how the Christian fell and worshiped Trump I knew that they were in darkness.
You think I am scared of an illegal with a giant MS13 tattoo on his face? I will preach the gospel to him.
Do you think I hate some black person selling drugs? I will preach the gospel to him.
Do you think I will insult some green haired lesbian? I will show her the gospel.
Do you think I care if some Muslim wants to harm me? I will show him that I have the love of God.
God came to save the sinners and will punish the world.
Do you think the biggest problem is welfare?
I am done with the Red pill way of thinking, and I will never go liberal.
Those are just anti biblical ways of thinking.
I came to warn you that you don’t truly repent you will end up like the self-righteous pharisees who thought they were better than everyone else and ended up opposing God and will be denied entry to the kingdom of heaven.

 

[NotmebutHim]

Indeed, Jesus is neither a Christian Nationalist nor is He a communist.

And He told Joshua, "No, but as Commander of the Army of the Lord I have now come". Jesus (in His pre-incarnate state) answered Joshua when he asked, "Are You for us or against us?".

Past that, thank you for the introduction.

 

[Artios1]

I know joining a online form can sometimes be daunting. But we are family here ….and instead of beating around the bush …. You should feel free to tell us how you really feel.

 

[Subhumanoidal]

I see lots of trash talk about others on such a broad, sweeping scale. I also see lifting yourself up above millions of people as if more righteous than them. Yet calling Others pharisees. Hmm...

 

[timemeddler]

ranting.

 

[Cameron143]

Why don't you take your own advice and share the gospel with us?

 

[gb9]

I was not born in a Christian home, and I accepted Christ later in life. I gave up my past criminal ways and wanted to learn what was the will of God. I threw away my old ways of thinking and dedicated myself to study and learning.
After many years I have concluded that most American Christian are not real Christians.
They fall into 2 camps. The Liberal progressive side and the Conservative side, both are lost and condemned.
The liberal side is easy understand, they don’t follow what the bible says, and they do their own thing, and accept immoral behavior as normal. They think all are saved. When they are really not.
The conservative right side seems like the correct choice but it’s another farce.
They don’t follow what the bible says, they try to be moral but are Self-righteous, and they think they are saved but are not because they are evil.
There are plenty of good material out there talking about how liberalism is bad but hardly anyone talks about the farce of conservative Christendom

For one thing it has a strong idolatry toward Country. (USA),
And they really are full of hate racism and self-righteousness They ARE the modern Pharisees.
Question 1: There is this guy who is persecuting Christian men women and children and wants to make it illegal to be a Christian, with a penalty of death.
Do you A: Kill him
Or B: Forgive him.
That was Saul. Saul was a great sinner but he obtained mercy because God came to save the world.
There are people who want to stone the adulterous women, and don’t understand mercy or forgiveness.
Question 2:
There is an castrated black guy who does not understand the bible.
Do you A: insult him and call him names.
Or do you B: explain the gospel to him and baptize him?
All I mainly see are auto proclaimed Christians making fun of liberals and throwing insults instead of giving the gospel.
Real Christians do need violence, or insults, they found the love of God that calls sinners to forgiveness and righteousness.
America was created by masonic people. The founding fathers of America mentioned God, but it was never the real God, they killed people, schemed, and convinced the people to revolt. And the masoned funded them.
They allowed slavery to happen and killed native American people.
America was funded on blood violence and masonry.
People condemn the Aztecs for sacrifices and war when America is just as evil.
“You Sound like a liberal”
No, I am someone who actually studied history. How much blood has America shed?
Ronald Reagan, was the real drug supplier.
You guys hate George Soros, but then accept whatever the Rockefellers and Rothchilds tell you.
All I have to do is read the comment of you people to see that there is nothing of God inside of you.
All racist Christians complaining about the war on Christian white people, and turn a blind eye to the suffering people who are not white.
Then the racist Christians talk about how they have a better culture and are more evolved when they watch a lot of porn on the internet and are no better that the people they speak ill of.
If someone did something evil to me I would forgive them. I will the turn the other Cheek.
If someone harmed my family I would pray for them.
Paul did not go around trying to force the laws to change. He went preaching the gospel.
And when I saw how the Christian fell and worshiped Trump I knew that they were in darkness.
You think I am scared of an illegal with a giant MS13 tattoo on his face? I will preach the gospel to him.
Do you think I hate some black person selling drugs? I will preach the gospel to him.
Do you think I will insult some green haired lesbian? I will show her the gospel.
Do you think I care if some Muslim wants to harm me? I will show him that I have the love of God.
God came to save the sinners and will punish the world.
Do you think the biggest problem is welfare?
I am done with the Red pill way of thinking, and I will never go liberal.
Those are just anti biblical ways of thinking.
I came to warn you that you don’t truly repent you will end up like the self-righteous pharisees who thought they were better than everyone else and ended up opposing God and will be denied entry to the kingdom of heaven.

while i do not agree with all this, you make a good point.

to many Christians get caught in the red/blue right/left paradigm.

there are flawed views on both sides...

 

[Roughsoul1991]

I was not born in a Christian home, and I accepted Christ later in life.
entry to the kingdom of heaven.

(I was not born in a Christian home, and I accepted Christ later in life. I gave up my past criminal ways and wanted to learn what was the will of God. I threw away my old ways of thinking and dedicated myself to study and learning.
After many years I have concluded that most American Christian are not real Christians.
They fall into 2 camps. The Liberal progressive side and the Conservative side, both are lost and condemned.)

Both are lost and condemned? Are you saying all who vote liberal or conservative are lost and condemned? Or are you saying every policy promoted? Or every action?

(The liberal side is easy understand, they don’t follow what the bible says, and they do their own thing, and accept immoral behavior as normal. They think all are saved. When they are really not.)

I'm assuming you mean the party holds to these points and not every liberal?

(The conservative right side seems like the correct choice but it’s another farce.
They don’t follow what the bible says, they try to be moral but are Self-righteous, and they think they are saved but are not because they are evil.)

They? The party (a foundational held beliefs) or every conservative? What is an example of a conservative being self righteous?

(There are plenty of good material out there talking about how liberalism is bad but hardly anyone talks about the farce of conservative Christendom)

Are you serious? Was you anywhere near a tv or radio during the last few election cycles or the 4 term of Trump?

(For one thing it has a strong idolatry toward Country. (USA),)

Who worships America? Please explain.

(And they really are full of hate racism and self-righteousness They ARE the modern Pharisees.)

They? Majority or some? What is your evidence if you say majority?

(Question 1: There is this guy who is persecuting Christian men women and children and wants to make it illegal to be a Christian, with a penalty of death.
Do you A: Kill him
Or B: Forgive him.)

Sure this is in any system no matter the system. Humans lean towards wickedness.

(Question 2:
There is an castrated black guy who does not understand the bible.
Do you A: insult him and call him names.
Or do you B: explain the gospel to him and baptize him?
All I mainly see are auto proclaimed Christians making fun of liberals and throwing insults instead of giving the gospel.)

All you mainly see? Is this just in the online realm or in ministry?

(America was created by masonic people. The founding fathers of America mentioned God, but it was never the real God, they killed people, schemed, and convinced the people to revolt. And the masoned funded them.)

Questions:
1. How many out of the 100+ founding people belonged to Free Masonry?
2. Was the Free Masons the same secular group we see today or has it became universal over time?
3. How much were the number of founders invested into Free Masonary?
4. Does the writings of the 100+ founders compliment Free Masonary?

(They allowed slavery to happen)

Did they? I thought it was integrated in the system of Great Britain. Why would Frederick Douglass a former slave call the US Constitution a pro-liberty document and not a pro-slavery document?

( and killed native American people.)

And? You do realize every civilization has conquered land typically through war or peace treaties. Also was every Indian tribe friendly? Why did some unite with the English to war against other tribes? Why did some side with Great Britain while others with the Colonists?

(America was funded on blood violence and masonry.)

Every country has had blood and violence. How about Joshua and the promise land?

(People condemn the Aztecs for sacrifices and war when America is just as evil.)

Subjective sources of history leaves out large gaps. Would you rather live in China, Russia, North Korea, India, Northern Africa, or the Middle East? Why or why not?

(Ronald Reagan, was the real drug supplier.)

What was the reason? What of his other policies?

(You guys hate George Soros, but then accept whatever the Rockefellers and Rothchilds tell you.)

Again who is you guys? Corruption is corruption no matter who it is.

(All I have to do is read the comment of you people to see that there is nothing of God inside of you.)

Who is you people? Sounds like a Pharisee.

(All racist Christians complaining about the war on Christian white people, and turn a blind eye to the suffering people who are not white.)

All 🤔?

(Then the racist Christians talk about how they have a better culture and are more evolved when they watch a lot of porn on the internet and are no better that the people they speak ill of.)

Okay I personally rarely if ever hear this. Sure I'm sure a very small percentage may say this but then again I don't run with fake Christians.

(Paul did not go around trying to force the laws to change. He went preaching the gospel.)

Force? If you mean using the democratic system then Paul did use his Roman citizenship to spread the gospel.

(And when I saw how the Christian fell and worshiped Trump.)

Worshipped? Sure maybe if you are QAnon but no he had a lot of supporters.

(You think I am scared of an illegal with a giant MS13 tattoo on his face? )

Has nothing to do with border policies.

(Do you think I hate some black person selling drugs? )

Has nothing to do with policy.

(Do you think I will insult some green haired lesbian? )

Has nothing to do with protecting kids.

(Do you think I care if some Muslim wants to harm me? )

Has nothing to do with protecting against homegrown jihad.

(God came to save the sinners and will punish the world.
Do you think the biggest problem is welfare?)

If you love your neighbor you would address both issues.

(I am done with the Red pill way of thinking, and I will never go liberal.
Those are just anti biblical ways of thinking.)

To each their own but hopefully this challenges the logic.

 

[ZNP]

I thought I was born in a Christian home, and I accepted Christ when I was 12. I wanted to learn what was the will of God and needed help opening up the Bible. Watchman Nee helped me so I could read the Bible for myself. I was involved in a powerful campus ministry on Rice university which turned the campus upside down, I gave myself full time to help with a Christian publishing ministry, and I went to Taiwan to preach the gospel and train others in the gospel from 1987 to 1995.
After many years I have concluded that most Christians fall into 2 camps: those that are simply hearers of the word of God and those that are doers of the word of God.
Those that are hearers only deceive themselves.

Some of those who have deceived themselves have become a judge of the law, rather than a doer of the law. They like to tell others their failings and condemn them. That is not how you deal with
the strong idolatry in the world. We are not to render evil for evil or railing for railing, but rather blessing. We do this because we believe God is the judge, not us, and He knows the hearts of men and He has the wisdom to make it manifest for all to see who is evil and who is righteous, who is a liar and who stands on the truth.

The gospel is that Jesus is Lord of Lords, king of kings. He has dealt with sin. That means that He can forgive sins, He can also judge them. He can deliver us from sins and He can cast the man of lawlessness into the lake of fire. If you are truly saved your conscience will actively condemn sin in your own life so that you purge out the sinful acts from your own behavior. We need to grow and mature as Christians. Many want to be involved in spiritual warfare but are not balanced. They accuse people of many evils, that is slander and is of the evil one.

 

[tourist]

[QUOTE="convertedsinner, post: 513
I came to warn you that you don’t truly repent you will end up like the self-righteous pharisees who thought they were better than everyone else and ended up opposing God and will be denied entry to the kingdom of heaven.[/QUOTE]Your warning is duly noted. Welcome to CC.

 

[NightTwister]

The road is narrow, but I don't think it's a tightrope.

 

[Eli1]

OP makes some good points despite the frustration but this is how it's going to be and has it's always been.
Religion is the problem and Jesus didn't like religions.

What options do we have now ?
1. Quit the world and become a monk or
2. Stay in the world unaffected by the daily world because your faith is unshakable and your internal peace is a river of living water.

 

[Dino246]

The road is narrow, but I don't think it's a tightrope.

Agreed. When Jesus said the road is narrow, He was making reference to all the ways people think they can ‘get to heaven’ (He is the only way), not all the ways in which believers in Him might be excluded.

 

[convertedsinner]

I see lots of trash talk about others on such a broad, sweeping scale. I also see lifting yourself up above millions of people as if more righteous than them. Yet calling Others pharisees. Hmm...

Yes because there was nothing good in me, there never was.
Jesus was the only righteous one, people will go to hell because they are like Simon the Pharisee that cannot see that the only savior was in front of him and all people are wicked without him.

 

[convertedsinner]

The whole capital of the US is built on Masonry. Most US presidents Right or Left were doing awful things, Abraham Lincoln a republican was one of the few who might have resisted but even he was in shady stuff, same with JFK a democrat.
What if I told you powerful people from the USA and Britian were behind the drugs empire.
What if the Jihad were a creation from them?
What if some people create a problem, and then appear as the solution.
what if this drug and crime war and moral panic are just the problem for the final solution.
I have no problem with people joining the military or the police but mankind will never create a just nation because mankind is internally unjust.
Legally the people could stone the adulterous woman.
But Jesus came to save the adulterous woman.
I no longer want to seek violence but salvation.
If some person were to hurt my family or loved ones, the old me would have wanted an eye for an eye maybe even two eyes.
But now I seek their salvation.
I pray for Trump to find salvation, and AOC and Clinton, and the masons, and the Islamic people, and the killers, and the thieves, and the people who riot and shoplift. I was freely given mercy and I shall freely give mercy. Even if I am offended 77 times a day.
Even in a Jihad nation filled with people who seek great harm against me, I would say father forgive them for they know not what they do.
I was an evil person that did not deserve forgiveness.
The old me would never give a single dollar away, but now I learned that having food and clothes is enough.
The old me would cheat and steal and lie, but I learn the value of working with my hands and providing for others who have nothing.
The old me loved America with great pride, but now I am no longer from this world and it does not matter because all nations are nothing and Vanity.
I want people to know the true Jesus, and that everything is vanity. I am not saying all Christians are lost, There are always people who are saved, and I think evangelizing is needed first in church buildings.