Will There Be Sex in Heaven?

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Will There Be Sex in Heaven?


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#1
So, before I sat down to type this post, I prayed and supplicated in the hopes that thunder wouldn't strike me for thinking these carnal thoughts...

Just kidding. Lol.

So, this is a legitimate question. I've heard a few arguments for and against. I started thinking about this after I heard about a famous preacher who spoke at a singles seminar. After one of the sessions, some young people approached him with trepidation and asked him if God would allow sex in Heaven. They looked embarrassed, but he told them that that was actually was a legitimate question. He could see that they were concerned that if they never got married on earth, they still wanted to experience marriage and all its benefits in Heaven. Too bad I don't remember the answer he gave them.

I don't have a clear opinion on the matter. Some people mention that Jesus said, "In the resurrection neither do men marry nor are women given in marriage, but they are like angels in heaven [who do not marry nor produce children]" (Matthew 22:30). They use this verse to say that there won't be sex in Heaven. But this is talking about marriage and child-bearing, not sex.

My opinion on the matter is pure speculation: I basically reason that when God created man and woman and said that everything was "good", He obviously included sex in that. Since God gives and doesn't take away (ie. He doesn't take away anything that is good or anything that He gives since all He gives are good), God won't take away sex or make it obsolete in Heaven just because good things don't pass away. Looking through the Bible, I can't recall a single time when God gave a good thing and then took it away with the reasoning that it was no longer 'needed'.

What are your thoughts on this topic?
 
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#2
So, before I sat down to type this post, I prayed and supplicated in the hopes that thunder wouldn't strike me for thinking these carnal thoughts...

Just kidding. Lol.

So, this is a legitimate question. I've heard a few arguments for and against. I started thinking about this after I heard about a famous preacher who spoke at a singles seminar. After one of the sessions, some young people approached him with trepidation and asked him if God would allow sex in Heaven. They looked embarrassed, but he told them that that was actually was a legitimate question. He could see that they were concerned that if they never got married on earth, they still wanted to experience marriage and all its benefits in Heaven. Too bad I don't remember the answer he gave them.

I don't have a clear opinion on the matter. Some people mention that Jesus said, "In the resurrection neither do men marry nor are women given in marriage, but they are like angels in heaven [who do not marry nor produce children]" (Matthew 22:30). They use this verse to say that there won't be sex in Heaven. But this is talking about marriage and child-bearing, not sex.

My opinion on the matter is pure speculation: I basically reason that when God created man and woman and said that everything was "good", He obviously included sex in that. Since God gives and doesn't take away (ie. He doesn't take away anything that is good or anything that He gives since all He gives are good), God won't take away sex or make it obsolete in Heaven just because good things don't pass away. Looking through the Bible, I can't recall a single time when God gave a good thing and then took it away with the reasoning that it was no longer 'needed'.

What are your thoughts on this topic?
My answer is maybe and here’s why I believe that.

Matthew 22:30 doesn’t confirm nor deny that if you were married before the resurrection that your pre-existing marriage becomes nullified once reunited with your spouse. Sex may be possible for only certain individuals who were married before the resurrection.

However, it seems like there wont be any new marriages after the resurrection.

I also might clarify, I believe sex consummates a marriage. In other words, marriage isn’t marriage unless there is sex. Sex is what becoming “one flesh is.”
 

Moses_Young

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I don't think so. As you quoted, we will be like the angels in heaven. The marriage in Heaven will be the bride of Christ (the redeemed) to Christ. I think Christian females are even referred to in scripture as sons of God.

If later, the Bride and Christ return to Earth, I guess it might happen..
 

Lynx

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I also might clarify, I believe sex consummates a marriage. In other words, marriage isn’t marriage unless there is sex. Sex is what becoming “one flesh is.”
And here I thought it meant you acted like a team instead of two different individuals.

So much for quadriplegics. They will never truly be married.
 

seoulsearch

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#5
So, before I sat down to type this post, I prayed and supplicated in the hopes that thunder wouldn't strike me for thinking these carnal thoughts...

Just kidding. Lol.

So, this is a legitimate question. I've heard a few arguments for and against. I started thinking about this after I heard about a famous preacher who spoke at a singles seminar. After one of the sessions, some young people approached him with trepidation and asked him if God would allow sex in Heaven. They looked embarrassed, but he told them that that was actually was a legitimate question. He could see that they were concerned that if they never got married on earth, they still wanted to experience marriage and all its benefits in Heaven. Too bad I don't remember the answer he gave them.

I don't have a clear opinion on the matter. Some people mention that Jesus said, "In the resurrection neither do men marry nor are women given in marriage, but they are like angels in heaven [who do not marry nor produce children]" (Matthew 22:30). They use this verse to say that there won't be sex in Heaven. But this is talking about marriage and child-bearing, not sex.

My opinion on the matter is pure speculation: I basically reason that when God created man and woman and said that everything was "good", He obviously included sex in that. Since God gives and doesn't take away (ie. He doesn't take away anything that is good or anything that He gives since all He gives are good), God won't take away sex or make it obsolete in Heaven just because good things don't pass away. Looking through the Bible, I can't recall a single time when God gave a good thing and then took it away with the reasoning that it was no longer 'needed'.

What are your thoughts on this topic?

Whenever this topic comes up, a specific passage is given (well, at least in my church experiences... Maybe others have seen different replies?) I went to Lutheran schools K-12th grades, and believe me, no one gives up on the possibility of sex than a group of hormone-laden teenagers.

In the book of Mark, Jesus is talking to the Sadducees, who did not believe in the resurrection. They are asking him about the law in which if a man dies without children, his wife goes to the next brother. They conclude by giving an example of a woman who has been passed down among 7 brothers.

Whose wife will she be at the resurrection? they ask Him, hoping to snare Jesus in a trap that disproves resurrection.

Jesus answers them: "Are you not therefore mistaken because you do not know the Scriptures, nor the power of God? For when they rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like the angels in heaven." (Mark 12, beginning with verse 18.)

Runningman made a good point in that those who were married might continue to be in heaven? My personal guess from this passage is no, because Jesus did not say she would be such-and-such brother's wife after the resurrection. But I could be wrong. But if the married are still married, whose wife would be? I think Jesus is saying, "No one's, because things work differently in heaven from what you know on earth." Maybe He's also saying that even if He tried to explain it now, we wouldn't understand.

And things like this really did happen, as we have the story of Judah's 3 sons who passed down a wife (Tamar) to all 3 because of their disobedience and deaths without children. So whose wife does she wind up being in heaven?

If sex is only in marriage and marriage no longer exists in heaven, we have our answer.

I once read about a pastor who was a approached by a group of shy, middle-aged women who had never married and despite their embarrassment to ask, presented him with the same question: Would there be sex in heaven?

The pastor leaned towards "no" because of passages like the one above, but he also stated that sex was designed as a form of worship. After much heartfelt study, he suggested to them that perhaps the real question was, "Is there worship in heaven?" We know there will be -- but perhaps some of forms as we know it, like sex, will be different.

I know it may not seem like much of a comfort to singles (and even marrieds, whose spouses are ill, etc.) who are here on earth and struggling with their sexuality, but 1 Corinthians 2:9 says: "No eye has seen, nor ear has heard, nor heart has imagined, what God has prepared for those who love Him."

Is there sex in heaven? It doesn't seem like it, unless marriages do continue in heaven, and when people have been married several times, it will be interesting to see how that all gets sorted out.

But even if there isn't sex in heaven, one thing we CAN be assured of is that God will either replace it or make up for it with something so amazing that our human minds have never even thought of what that might be.
 

seoulsearch

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If later, the Bride and Christ return to Earth, I guess it might happen..
Excellent point.

I have wondered about this as well, especially since the Bride will be Christ's true church, which will comprise of an entire group of people, both male and female, and not actually one single woman.
 

seoulsearch

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#7
The question of whether or not sex makes a marriage is an interesting one.

I often can't sleep and a while back, I was passing the time by reading old threads and posts here on CC.

I came across a post by someone who is no longer here (and now I really wish I would have bookmarked or screenshot the post,) in which a young woman was describing her grandparents and their amazing lifelong love.

The two had gotten married young, but only a few months into their marriage, the husband had an operation, and the medical team blundered the procedure. They nicked something they shouldn't have, causing the husband to permanently lose the ability for his body to do what it had to do in order to have sex. So here they were, a newlywed couple who would otherwise be in the honeymoon phase, and he is now permanently unable to be sexually functional. Could this be grounds for divorce?

But the poster wrote that her grandparents knew they had married each other for love, for better or for worse, and they decided to stay together -- and were together for the rest of their lives.

Now I know, someone will say, "Well if she was their grandchild, they must have figured out something!" but from what she wrote, they were never able to have "normal" relations for the rest of their lives. I'm not sure if they later adopted children or how that all worked out.

But it was a truly an inspirational story, and you can't help but wonder what you would do if you found yourself in that situation.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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#8
No, because the passage you just quoted from Matthew.
1. Sex outside of marriage is fornication and adultery if with a married/ divorced person.

2. We will be the bride of Christ.

3. Sin will not be an option or desire in a resurrection body.

4. When the wrath of God is poured out upon the world, most of the population will be destroyed, certainly the satanic armies. The remaining survivors in the millennial reign of Christ will reproduce. Those who have their new bodies after death will not continue to reproduce.
 
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#9
Runningman made a good point in that those who were married might continue to be in heaven? My personal guess from this passage is no, because Jesus did not say she would be such-and-such brother's wife after the resurrection. But I could be wrong. But if the married are still married, whose wife would be? I think Jesus is saying, "No one's, because things work differently in heaven from what you know on earth." Maybe He's also saying that even if He tried to explain it now, we wouldn't understand.
That’s a great point and my first thought is whether or not polygamy was ever condemned as a sin in the Bible. I know that sin is a transgression of the law. As far as I can tell, there isn’t a law which says a man can’t have more than one wife, in facts it’s the opposite according to Exodus 21:10 and Deuteronomy 21:15,16.

I know that death of a spouse creates a circumstance in which a woman can take a new husband, then by the resurrection it’s possible she may have had seven husbands while alive on Earth. So that would be a form of reverse polygamy in which the woman has more than one husband in the resurrection.

I also carefully considered Matthew 19:4-6 before posting this reply and Jesus didn’t say a man and woman cannot become one flesh with more than one person.

I’m not condoning polygamy, but it was practiced in the Bible and wasn’t codified as a sin in the law. I’m a bit on the fence about that one. Just more information to throw on the pile for consideration.
 

seoulsearch

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That’s a great point and my first thought is whether or not polygamy was ever condemned as a sin in the Bible. I know that sin is a transgression of the law. As far as I can tell, there isn’t a law which says a man can’t have more than one wife, in facts it’s the opposite according to Exodus 21:10 and Deuteronomy 21:15,16.

I know that death of a spouse creates a circumstance in which a woman can take a new husband, then by the resurrection it’s possible she may have had seven husbands while alive on Earth. So that would be a form of reverse polygamy in which the woman has more than one husband in the resurrection.

I also carefully considered Matthew 19:4-6 before posting this reply and Jesus didn’t say a man and woman cannot become one flesh with more than one person.

I’m not condoning polygamy, but it was practiced in the Bible and wasn’t codified as a sin in the law. I’m a bit on the fence about that one. Just more information to throw on the pile for consideration.

Polygamy is definitely one of those things on my priority list to ask God about someday when we are able to get concise answers to our questions.

I've heard it argued many a time that it was allowed because men such as David were allowed to do so. But we're also given the example of the Pharisees asking Jesus why divorce had been allowed, and Jesus said, "Because your hearts were hard." He then goes on to say that divorce was never something God had intended.

It's always cited that God made a male and female and instituted marriage (therefore, marriage is heterosexual.) Likewise, God made one woman out of Adam's rib, not 10. But those are just my beliefs and I want to stress that I know I could be wrong. I'm waiting for God to tell me someday in person.

I personally believe that there are certain things, such as polygamy, that came to be accepted as a cultural norm but was not what God intended nor did He approve of it, but knew that people's hearts were hard and would refuse to give it up, so He gave laws concerning such things (rations for wives had to be equal, etc.)

In school, they called it something like "God's permissive laws" in which God didn't want it that way, but He knew humans had made up their minds and wouldn't change, so He made rules trying to prevent further abuse. I personally feel that slavery is part of that category too.

I remember reading Exodus 21:20-21: "Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property."

I first read this when I was a kid in grade school and I remember being utterly horrified, thinking, "What kind of God are we being taught to believe in, that He would allow people to be seen as property and beaten so badly that it takes them days to recover?"

Now again, this is just me, and I could be wrong, and some of the things I was taught could be wrong as well, but I don't believe God ever intended or approved of slavery, or for people to be seen as property. But humans insisted on doing this to each other, and for whatever reason, it was allowed and He went on to make rules about it.

But just because something is happening and is culturally accepted doesn't mean it's right or approved by God at all, as we have seen numerous times throughout the Bible.

I am not in any way saying that my beliefs are somehow absolute. I could be dead wrong about everything. But these are issues that I first read about as a young child and have had a troubled heart over them ever since.
 

seoulsearch

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#12
My opinion on the matter is pure speculation: I basically reason that when God created man and woman and said that everything was "good"... Looking through the Bible, I can't recall a single time when God gave a good thing and then took it away with the reasoning that it was no longer 'needed'.
I think one thing we have to remember as we try to consider the topic in regard to the Bible as a whole is that God does make certain things for certain places and certain times. They might be good for that time and place, but for whatever reason, He might replace them with something He deems better for a new time and place -- kind of like the way humans are always replacing old technology with something newer that better suits modern times (not a perfect analogy of course, but just something that came to mind.)

I know this will seem like a weak example, but I'm guessing that for people who believe in dinosaurs, at the time, God saw dinosaurs as being "good." But for whatever reason, God also seemed to decide that their time and place was over, and they are no longer here.

We can also look at something a little more pertinent to modern life: I'm sure most people would say that the sun and moon are good -- particularly because the light they give to the earth. God created them and saw them as good as well, as His creation was perfect.

But the Bible also says in Revelation 21:23 that there will be no sun or moon, because God will be our everlasting Light.

Marriage and sex were designed to give humans another way to experience relationship with God. If marriage no longer occurs in heaven (at least not for anyone who wasn't already married on earth,) perhaps then too, it might mean that time and place for marriage and sex will have passed, and will be replaced, or else an more amazing alternative will be available.

I certainly understand wanting to believe that sex exists in heaven (especially for those abstaining in this life and still hoping for a chance.) If I'm wrong, God can hold me to this -- I will gladly find you in heaven, come up to you and shake your hand and tell you I was wrong because at the end of the day, I don't really know.

But from all we are given in the Bible, I don't think it looks likely. And as a long-time single, it can indeed seem troubling.

I'm just trying hard to remind myself that whatever good thing we no longer have after we transition from this life, God is capable of giving us things that are infinitely better.
 
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Polygamy is definitely one of those things on my priority list to ask God about someday when we are able to get concise answers to our questions.

I've heard it argued many a time that it was allowed because men such as David were allowed to do so. But we're also given the example of the Pharisees asking Jesus why divorce had been allowed, and Jesus said, "Because your hearts were hard." He then goes on to say that divorce was never something God had intended.

It's always cited that God made a male and female and instituted marriage (therefore, marriage is heterosexual.) Likewise, God made one woman out of Adam's rib, not 10. But those are just my beliefs and I want to stress that I know I could be wrong. I'm waiting for God to tell me someday in person.

I personally believe that there are certain things, such as polygamy, that came to be accepted as a cultural norm but was not what God intended nor did He approve of it, but knew that people's hearts were hard and would refuse to give it up, so He gave laws concerning such things (rations for wives had to be equal, etc.)

In school, they called it something like "God's permissive laws" in which God didn't want it that way, but He knew humans had made up their minds and wouldn't change, so He made rules trying to prevent further abuse. I personally feel that slavery is part of that category too.

I remember reading Exodus 21:20-21: "Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property."

I first read this when I was a kid in grade school and I remember being utterly horrified, thinking, "What kind of God are we being taught to believe in, that He would allow people to be seen as property and beaten so badly that it takes them days to recover?"

Now again, this is just me, and I could be wrong, and some of the things I was taught could be wrong as well, but I don't believe God ever intended or approved of slavery, or for people to be seen as property. But humans insisted on doing this to each other, and for whatever reason, it was allowed and He went on to make rules about it.

But just because something is happening and is culturally accepted doesn't mean it's right or approved by God at all, as we have seen numerous times throughout the Bible.

I am not in any way saying that my beliefs are somehow absolute. I could be dead wrong about everything. But these are issues that I first read about as a young child and have had a troubled heart over them ever since.
Well said on the issues of polygamy and slavery. The Bible says we're each know in part. I might know nothing about something you know everything about, etc.

When it regards polygamy and slavery, it's pretty easy for me to see that as you said, polygamy was something God conceded to (exactly like divorce) because people were bent on doing it. It was never His will or plan and never will be. And slavery was never God's will or plan. The very concept is about as anti-God as one can get since God made man with freewill despite the fact that his freewill could potentially harm him. Slavery negates freewill, if not in practice then by implication. Furthermore, there are other places in the OT where God condemns slavery and oppression.

The Bible doesn't mention every single thing, so we sometimes have to pay attention to our own conscience on those matters. For example, the Bible never openly condemns pedophilia. Not even in Deuteronomy 27 where many other acts and sexual acts are condemned is pedophilia condemned. When this is the case and there's no clear word, God wants people to use their conscience (not to be mistaken with your instinct nor with your intuition-- all three distinct and different from each other) which acts as a sort of resident 'voice of the Holy Spirit' in all people, christian and non. Your conscience's job is solely to tell you not what is right (never what is right) but only and solely what is wrong.

When it regards sex in Heaven (at least between married couples), I have this sense of intuition that God will not 'take it away'. It's related to the same side of my intuition that tells me that God is genuinely a good Person even when I'm not feeling or seeing it in my life or in others' lives. Sex is the only thing that belongs only to a couple and no one else. Though God owns and is before the partner for each spouse, He leaves the marriage bed all alone but owns everything else. It's hard to see Him saying, "Welp. You guys won't need your special thing anymore since you're now getting super upgraded." And I'm not an apologist for sex in Heaven. I think about things sometimes and though I can't fathom how one could have sex in Heaven what's harder for me to fathom is God taking away sex. Like a child, the simple and unbiased question to God taking away sex in Heaven is... "Why?"

Lastly, you said something about Matt. 22:30. It's very true that I'm the Bible Jesus often used figures of speech and could appear to be saying one thing when He doesn't at all mean it like He said it. A very good example of this is John 6 when Jesus told the people they must eat His flesh and drink His blood. Understandably, they were upset and ran off. But though that was what He said, it wasn't at all what He meant. I believe that this was the way He was speaking to the Sadducees in Matt. 22:30. I believe there's a hidden hint to this in what He told them here: "You are in error, not knowing the Scriptures or the power of God." Why would Jesus say they didn't know the Scriptures if the Scriptures said nothing about the topic they were asking about? Exactly. It would not surprise me even a little bit, because God talks in a veiled way like this throughout the entire Bible, if not only will there be sex in Heaven but there will be marriages too and maybe even childbirths. I wouldn't encourage anyone to run with this or think too long on it. But looking at God's character (eg. integrity or immutability), God's values (eg. family and community), and God's goodness (eg. giving us things we desire just because we desire them, even if those things are imperfect), it's hard for me to arrive at conclusions that don't seem to square with God's foundational character traits. The Canaanite woman also held fast to Jesus's foundational character (which, as she saw with eyes of faith, was over or more important (primary or first in importance) than His mission to the Jews). She saw past the disagreeable way Jesus seemed to be with her, and as a result Jesus praised her ability to see past the surface things and into His heart, and so she received the miracle she came to Him for. (Read the fascinating story in Matt. 15:21-28.)

It really is a joy to doggedly ask God "Why" (about anything and everything), like a little child asking His dad relentless questions, until He unfolds hidden mysteries to you. My practice is that if something doesn't make sense or add up to me or if I disagree with something (in everyday life or in spirituality), I'll keep asking God until He tells me (unless I get too tired to keep asking).
 

seoulsearch

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Well said on the issues of polygamy and slavery. The Bible says we're each know in part. I might know nothing about something you know everything about, etc.

When it regards polygamy and slavery, it's pretty easy for me to see that as you said, polygamy was something God conceded to (exactly like divorce) because people were bent on doing it. It was never His will or plan and never will be. And slavery was never God's will or plan. The very concept is about as anti-God as one can get since God made man with freewill despite the fact that his freewill could potentially harm him. Slavery negates freewill, if not in practice then by implication. Furthermore, there are other places in the OT where God condemns slavery and oppression.

The Bible doesn't mention every single thing, so we sometimes have to pay attention to our own conscience on those matters. For example, the Bible never openly condemns pedophilia. Not even in Deuteronomy 27 where many other acts and sexual acts are condemned is pedophilia condemned. When this is the case and there's no clear word, God wants people to use their conscience (not to be mistaken with your instinct nor with your intuition-- all three distinct and different from each other) which acts as a sort of resident 'voice of the Holy Spirit' in all people, christian and non. Your conscience's job is solely to tell you not what is right (never what is right) but only and solely what is wrong.

When it regards sex in Heaven (at least between married couples), I have this sense of intuition that God will not 'take it away'. It's related to the same side of my intuition that tells me that God is genuinely a good Person even when I'm not feeling or seeing it in my life or in others' lives. Sex is the only thing that belongs only to a couple and no one else. Though God owns and is before the partner for each spouse, He leaves the marriage bed all alone but owns everything else. It's hard to see Him saying, "Welp. You guys won't need your special thing anymore since you're now getting super upgraded." And I'm not an apologist for sex in Heaven. I think about things sometimes and though I can't fathom how one could have sex in Heaven what's harder for me to fathom is God taking away sex. Like a child, the simple and unbiased question to God taking away sex in Heaven is... "Why?"

Lastly, you said something about Matt. 22:30. It's very true that I'm the Bible Jesus often used figures of speech and could appear to be saying one thing when He doesn't at all mean it like He said it. A very good example of this is John 6 when Jesus told the people they must eat His flesh and drink His blood. Understandably, they were upset and ran off. But though that was what He said, it wasn't at all what He meant. I believe that this was the way He was speaking to the Sadducees in Matt. 22:30. I believe there's a hidden hint to this in what He told them here: "You are in error, not knowing the Scriptures or the power of God." Why would Jesus say they didn't know the Scriptures if the Scriptures said nothing about the topic they were asking about? Exactly. It would not surprise me even a little bit, because God talks in a veiled way like this throughout the entire Bible, if not only will there be sex in Heaven but there will be marriages too and maybe even childbirths. I wouldn't encourage anyone to run with this or think too long on it. But looking at God's character (eg. integrity or immutability), God's values (eg. family and community), and God's goodness (eg. giving us things we desire just because we desire them, even if those things are imperfect), it's hard for me to arrive at conclusions that don't seem to square with God's foundational character traits. The Canaanite woman also held fast to Jesus's foundational character (which, as she saw with eyes of faith, was over or more important (primary or first in importance) than His mission to the Jews). She saw past the disagreeable way Jesus seemed to be with her, and as a result Jesus praised her ability to see past the surface things and into His heart, and so she received the miracle she came to Him for. (Read the fascinating story in Matt. 15:21-28.)

It really is a joy to doggedly ask God "Why" (about anything and everything), like a little child asking His dad relentless questions, until He unfolds hidden mysteries to you. My practice is that if something doesn't make sense or add up to me or if I disagree with something (in everyday life or in spirituality), I'll keep asking God until He tells me (unless I get too tired to keep asking).

If there IS sex in heaven, I'm just curious -- and I'm asking out of sincerity, not sarcasm.

Solomon was married to the Pharaoh's daughter, along with many other wives and the Bible mentions 1000 concubines.

David had 8 names wives, but the Bible says he too had many others.

Do you think God will just pick one for them to have in heaven, or will they be allowed to spend time with each one?

And if only one woman is picked, what happens to all the others who were married?

Because if the married are allowed to keep having sex in heaven, it means they should have a right as well. But with who, if not their one earthly husband?
 
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So, before I sat down to type this post, I prayed and supplicated in the hopes that thunder wouldn't strike me for thinking these carnal thoughts...

Just kidding. Lol.

So, this is a legitimate question. I've heard a few arguments for and against. I started thinking about this after I heard about a famous preacher who spoke at a singles seminar. After one of the sessions, some young people approached him with trepidation and asked him if God would allow sex in Heaven. They looked embarrassed, but he told them that that was actually was a legitimate question. He could see that they were concerned that if they never got married on earth, they still wanted to experience marriage and all its benefits in Heaven. Too bad I don't remember the answer he gave them.

I don't have a clear opinion on the matter. Some people mention that Jesus said, "In the resurrection neither do men marry nor are women given in marriage, but they are like angels in heaven [who do not marry nor produce children]" (Matthew 22:30). They use this verse to say that there won't be sex in Heaven. But this is talking about marriage and child-bearing, not sex.

My opinion on the matter is pure speculation: I basically reason that when God created man and woman and said that everything was "good", He obviously included sex in that. Since God gives and doesn't take away (ie. He doesn't take away anything that is good or anything that He gives since all He gives are good), God won't take away sex or make it obsolete in Heaven just because good things don't pass away. Looking through the Bible, I can't recall a single time when God gave a good thing and then took it away with the reasoning that it was no longer 'needed'.

What are your thoughts on this topic?
Why did you have to go there? LOL

I guess I hate this because I hate to read the arguments against. But, I'll state my opinion and try to read some of the other responses later this weekend.

I think it's a possibility. Why? We will be enjoying other forms of sensual pleasure: food, sight, sound, smells... I fail to see how or why God would eliminate the most intense form of physical pleasure He gave to us from a place that is supposed to be paradisiacal. He also said that He would restore "all" things.

If this happens, I do not know in what way it will manifest itself since some of us have had multiple spouses disappear due to death. It also may be something that is to our concept of sex what sex is to urination. I.e., a Peter Kreeft thought: When we're children, our genitals are for urination. When we grow up, they assume an additional, higher purpose. In Heaven, a type of higher "growing" up if you will, it is possible there be a yet higher purpose for them still. That's intriguing, at least to me.

I'll see what others say when I have more time. Got to earn my paycheck (though I may stop in during down times).
 
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Gojira

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If there IS sex in heaven, I'm just curious -- and I'm asking out of sincerity, not sarcasm.

Solomon was married to the Pharaoh's daughter, along with many other wives and the Bible mentions 1000 concubines.

David had 8 names wives, but the Bible says he too had many others.

Do you think God will just pick one for them to have in heaven, or will they be allowed to spend time with each one?

And if only one woman is picked, what happens to all the others who were married?

Because if the married are allowed to keep having sex in heaven, it means they should have a right as well. But with who, if not their one earthly husband?
Ahh the quandary.
 

17Bees

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So, before I sat down to type this post, I prayed and supplicated in the hopes that thunder wouldn't strike me for thinking these carnal thoughts...

Just kidding. Lol.

So, this is a legitimate question. I've heard a few arguments for and against. I started thinking about this after I heard about a famous preacher who spoke at a singles seminar. After one of the sessions, some young people approached him with trepidation and asked him if God would allow sex in Heaven. They looked embarrassed, but he told them that that was actually was a legitimate question. He could see that they were concerned that if they never got married on earth, they still wanted to experience marriage and all its benefits in Heaven. Too bad I don't remember the answer he gave them.

I don't have a clear opinion on the matter. Some people mention that Jesus said, "In the resurrection neither do men marry nor are women given in marriage, but they are like angels in heaven [who do not marry nor produce children]" (Matthew 22:30). They use this verse to say that there won't be sex in Heaven. But this is talking about marriage and child-bearing, not sex.

My opinion on the matter is pure speculation: I basically reason that when God created man and woman and said that everything was "good", He obviously included sex in that. Since God gives and doesn't take away (ie. He doesn't take away anything that is good or anything that He gives since all He gives are good), God won't take away sex or make it obsolete in Heaven just because good things don't pass away. Looking through the Bible, I can't recall a single time when God gave a good thing and then took it away with the reasoning that it was no longer 'needed'.

What are your thoughts on this topic?
Don't rightly know SS. We probably should've strapped a GPS on Hugh Hefner before he sailed to his new home. I'm sure he sat at the ole bargaining table (that we all sit at from time to time) and if he and maybe Jack Nicholson or Mick Jagger, surely Russel Brand got an inside scoop on the matter, then my guess is that sex is NOT a part of the afterlife since none of the aforementioned have shown any desire to be there.
 

Lynx

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Your conscience's job is solely to tell you not what is right (never what is right) but only and solely what is wrong.
My conscience must be broken. It also tells me what is right. It is right to help that person, it is right to say something to boost a friend's morale, it is right to give to people who need...

Is there anywhere I could get my conscience repaired? Only having a conscience that tells me what is wrong would be a whole lot easier.
 

Lynx

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#20
So, before I sat down to type this post, I prayed and supplicated in the hopes that thunder wouldn't strike me for thinking these carnal thoughts...

Just kidding. Lol.

So, this is a legitimate question. I've heard a few arguments for and against. I started thinking about this after I heard about a famous preacher who spoke at a singles seminar. After one of the sessions, some young people approached him with trepidation and asked him if God would allow sex in Heaven. They looked embarrassed, but he told them that that was actually was a legitimate question. He could see that they were concerned that if they never got married on earth, they still wanted to experience marriage and all its benefits in Heaven. Too bad I don't remember the answer he gave them.

I don't have a clear opinion on the matter. Some people mention that Jesus said, "In the resurrection neither do men marry nor are women given in marriage, but they are like angels in heaven [who do not marry nor produce children]" (Matthew 22:30). They use this verse to say that there won't be sex in Heaven. But this is talking about marriage and child-bearing, not sex.

My opinion on the matter is pure speculation: I basically reason that when God created man and woman and said that everything was "good", He obviously included sex in that. Since God gives and doesn't take away (ie. He doesn't take away anything that is good or anything that He gives since all He gives are good), God won't take away sex or make it obsolete in Heaven just because good things don't pass away. Looking through the Bible, I can't recall a single time when God gave a good thing and then took it away with the reasoning that it was no longer 'needed'.

What are your thoughts on this topic?
There won't be any sex in heaven for the same reason there won't be any money or thorns or stingers or cat-like reflexes - none of these will be needed in a perfect world.