Why Won't I Vote for Trump?

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ZNP

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You're full of $#!+. Excuse the extreme tone here, but there's no better word for what just came out of your mouth. I was there in DC in person walking the streets. I saw the now infamous "March peacefully and patriotically to the Capital" speech in real life. One of the things that shocked me was the number of black and brown people there supporting Trump. I'd guess 1 in 6 people I saw there were black. The fact that you claim to follow the Truth, our Lord Jesus, yet are here spewing leftist propaganda lies the way you are makes me sick. You are a liar and have no idea what you're talking about concerning this specific claim. So now you know and have been made aware by an actual witness, please stop lying and maybe do more research than what the "TV tells you".
I went to every stop the steal rally in Washington DC including January 6th and the one a few days before January 6th. Altogether there were four of them. On January 6th you had very many Trump supporters somewhere between 500,00 and 1,000,000. However, there were also anarchists there. I met the guy who put his feet on Pelosi's desk, he was not MAGA he was an anarchist. And there were Antifa there as well. There are videos of these guys preparing to storm the Capitol, setting up, while everyone else was over by the Whitehouse listening to Trump. There were also Feds, we have video of them inside the Capitol putting on their "MAGA" costume so they could blend into the crowd. You also had people like the guy who left the pipe bomb. So it is not a "lie" technically, if someone says they saw someone holding a confederate flag. Most likely it was a fringe group that came to the event like the Feds dressed up in their MAGA costumes.
 

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They are in Texas that's for sure and if their not that way in the rest of the US Trump sure needs to blow his dog whistle and call them off. And not just the law(or I would hope not all of them) but especially the younger(20's-40ish) in the smaller populated counties. They quite often drive around in their trucks with confederate flags,Trump flags ect. in the holes in the truck beds on the weekends looking for minorities or Democrats to harass. To them as soon as Trump wins they are going to round us all up and ship us all out of Texas.
Wow!

Never knew you were such a vitriolic guy. This is pretty hateful stuff you've written here.
 

ZNP

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Wow!

Never knew you were such a vitriolic guy. This is pretty hateful stuff you've written here.
It was 97 degrees and the cop didn't stop to see if he needed help. What is the point of paying taxes when they treat you like that?
 

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As Christians we flock to a platform like MAGA because it seems to support Christianity(not a bad idea right). We tend to want to defend it as Christians as if it's a Christian organization and end up disillusioned when we figure out that it also attracted violent groups who saw it as a vehicle to exercise their own desires. As for what it was suppose to be it's becoming apparent that these groups,confused I suppose are taking it in a different direction. The error was to insinuate that migrants of all races were spilling over the border in caravans when it was an exaggeration to gain votes, Those not Christian are all fired up and ready to hunt them down but cannot find them walking down the road in large groups so in their little minds the first non white they see must be them after all Abbott and Trump told them we were here. I guess me and my family are "it" or maybe just any of us will do we all look alike to them it seems now what will we do?
It’s like when black people were attacked by lynching mobs. Thing is they start attacking some people, then some other group before they start attacking each other. Unfortunately before that point there’s been severe unrest.
 

Jimbone

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It’s like when black people were attacked by lynching mobs. Thing is they start attacking some people, then some other group before they start attacking each other. Unfortunately before that point there’s been severe unrest.
Yeah, unlike the Democrats right? They never play group against group right? What's? Wrong with you people? All ever hear you do it talk about how bad Trump and Maga is while accusing him/them of "going to do" everything the Democrat party has already done or is doing. Where do you get your facts/news/viewpoint your always talking about? You're so disconnected from reality it's hard to believe you'd know the truth if it kicked you in the backside. Are the Democrats not attacking each other already? Better check some news about the civil war within them over the whole Gaza crap. They're already imploding and literally attacking each other yet here you are talking about what people you don't like "might do" or "are gonna do". I don't understand how you get there mentally. I guess delusional hive mind mentality. You trust the wicked more than the truth.
 

Susanna

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Yeah, unlike the Democrats right? They never play group against group right? What's? Wrong with you people? All ever hear you do it talk about how bad Trump and Maga is while accusing him/them of "going to do" everything the Democrat party has already done or is doing. Where do you get your facts/news/viewpoint your always talking about? You're so disconnected from reality it's hard to believe you'd know the truth if it kicked you in the backside. Are the Democrats not attacking each other already? Better check some news about the civil war within them over the whole Gaza crap. They're already imploding and literally attacking each other yet here you are talking about what people you don't like "might do" or "are gonna do". I don't understand how you get there mentally. I guess delusional hive mind mentality. You trust the wicked more than the truth.
I hope you’ll get better soon.❤️
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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They are in Texas that's for sure and if their not that way in the rest of the US Trump sure needs to blow his dog whistle and call them off. And not just the law(or I would hope not all of them) but especially the younger(20's-40ish) in the smaller populated counties. They quite often drive around in their trucks with confederate flags,Trump flags ect. in the holes in the truck beds on the weekends looking for minorities or Democrats to harass. To them as soon as Trump wins they are going to round us all up and ship us all out of Texas.

Exactly! Blowin' that dog whistle! Just like they did the first time he was in office. I mean every night on the news.... hey, wait a minute.... that's happening NOW! But it's not the Confederate flag they are flying...
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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It’s like when black people were attacked by lynching mobs. Thing is they start attacking some people, then some other group before they start attacking each other. Unfortunately before that point there’s been severe unrest.
And that is exactly what the Dems are counting on. Bring people from another country illegally, shove as many as you can in one spot and make sure there are little to no resources. Then when those that are here legally get upset and say anything they're racist because brown people or some other color. I don't agree with the cockroach comment for all people that are coming into the country. But some of them... Trump isn't wrong, they aren't sending their best. And the proof of that is the nightly news.


https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-accused-raping-ny-teen-after-slipping-san-diego-from-turkey

https://www.yahoo.com/news/illegals...PEWafAwQY_EW9j5P2ZTVBMmyJ7-3S-Vwso40PgYzKavfQ

https://www.foxnews.com/us/rachel-m...-salvador-charged-rape-killing-maryland-mom-5


https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-w...-homicide-murder-investigation-crimes-autopsy
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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I don't think he was saying that people of all shades don't support Trump, I think what he was saying is that if you are a racist bigot from the Jim Crow days that these guys and no doubt this country does have some, these guys are going to support Trump not Biden.
These guys, MAGA, are a made up story. We have Palestinian protesters tearing up the country. They are defacing statues, threatening Jewish people, stopping traffic, attacking people who disagree with them, tearing up campuses. Stop with the false stories already. ( Not you Z) It didn't happen in the first three years. Remember all of you chicken littles with the sky is falling, I'm moving to Canada?! And yet where are you? Yeah. Exactly. Here, making up false stories again. Of the two Biden is more racist than Trump ever thought of being. Add on to that Bernie bros, Antifa and Black lives matter. Yeah don't pee on me and say it's rainin'
 

iamsoandso

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I don't think he was saying that people of all shades don't support Trump, I think what he was saying is that if you are a racist bigot from the Jim Crow days that these guys and no doubt this country does have some, these guys are going to support Trump not Biden.

Yep MikeIsraelite was pushing all the buttons that an Hispanic would spot but I realize that if someone didn't know what he was meaning by the cockroach they wouldn't get it. La Cucaracha is a patriotic song of sorts used in several revolutions they think beginning in the Spanish/Moroccan war, 1850-1860 and then again in the revolution in the early 1900's(Poncho Villa) that had different words depending on which side they were on. The just of the song though is that the cockroach(the enemy) is wounded(missing one or two of it's hind legs) and is in a position where it cant defend itself and be stepped on. I realize most people wouldn't realize what he was referencing ( the Jim Crow guy's as you said) and so especially the Christian element of MAGA may not spot the Jim Crow folks sneaking their way into MAGA. Now not that I intend on voting Democrat but if you consider this I would because of the Jim Crow guys be empowering them against my own family if I vote the other way also unless Trump denounces those groups(I cant betray my family).

I took a week off and didn't come to CC just to let things settle down. I have to admit that it actually felt great to go a week without all of the politics,friction,wars,left right arguments ect.... Anyway not that I have any negative feelings towards anyone here on CC but after taking a week off I don't think I have anything beneficial to add anymore so I think I'll just move on to other things. God Speed to you all in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and I am in the mist of loving you all.
 

ZNP

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Yep MikeIsraelite was pushing all the buttons that an Hispanic would spot but I realize that if someone didn't know what he was meaning by the cockroach they wouldn't get it. La Cucaracha is a patriotic song of sorts used in several revolutions they think beginning in the Spanish/Moroccan war, 1850-1860 and then again in the revolution in the early 1900's(Poncho Villa) that had different words depending on which side they were on. The just of the song though is that the cockroach(the enemy) is wounded(missing one or two of it's hind legs) and is in a position where it cant defend itself and be stepped on. I realize most people wouldn't realize what he was referencing ( the Jim Crow guy's as you said) and so especially the Christian element of MAGA may not spot the Jim Crow folks sneaking their way into MAGA. Now not that I intend on voting Democrat but if you consider this I would because of the Jim Crow guys be empowering them against my own family if I vote the other way also unless Trump denounces those groups(I cant betray my family).

I took a week off and didn't come to CC just to let things settle down. I have to admit that it actually felt great to go a week without all of the politics,friction,wars,left right arguments ect.... Anyway not that I have any negative feelings towards anyone here on CC but after taking a week off I don't think I have anything beneficial to add anymore so I think I'll just move on to other things. God Speed to you all in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and I am in the mist of loving you all.
The cockroach is just another term for deplorable.
 

Zandar

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According to this, the Democratic Part is questioning wether he should stay in the race due to the poor debate performance.
 
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is trump still in common with the qanon movement? I recently read a very detailed article that Qanon and Trump will soon introduce us the "antichrist" ... it should be very credible, they will help us a lot, but after us I will want some signs
 

ZNP

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is trump still in common with the qanon movement? I recently read a very detailed article that Qanon and Trump will soon introduce us the "antichrist" ... it should be very credible, they will help us a lot, but after us I will want some signs
Qanon is misdirection play by the deep state, it is Q, not Qanon.
 
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Qanon is misdirection play by the deep state, it is Q, not Qanon.
in the article it was that donald trump and vladimir putin will present him as the savior of humanity, he will stop the war and famine that will soon happen, and they will give us a "basic income" .. but only for those who will have some kind of vaccination passport and some kind of brand, I don't remember anymore
 

ZNP

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in the article it was that donald trump and vladimir putin will present him as the savior of humanity, he will stop the war and famine that will soon happen, and they will give us a "basic income" .. but only for those who will have some kind of vaccination passport and some kind of brand, I don't remember anymore
Like I said, a misdirection play.
 

Bob-Carabbio

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How can a politician with a straight face talk about SS going "insolvent"!?
Where have YOU been????

Politicians have been breast-beating as ling as I can remember (Since Eisenhower) about "Social Security becoming insolvent" for one reason or another. the fear-mongers seem to think it's a good "Panic handle" to get their hack politicians votes!!!