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I often wonder why God chose the small area of land for His chosen people Israel. I imagine how great that nation could have become if they would have settled in North America. So I have to ask, why didn't God move His people to this land?
 

Cameron143

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I often wonder why God chose the small area of land for His chosen people Israel. I imagine how great that nation could have become if they would have settled in North America. So I have to ask, why didn't God move His people to this land?
His people are in every land.
 

SonJudgment

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For the Old World the Levant is the ideal crossroads of the three classical continents. So it makes sense for a God that wants to reconnect to all the peoples that had forgotten him to send the Messiah, Jesus, out of the Levant, and indeed the spread of the Gospel of Jesus thereafter by the apostles shows this genius.
 

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I often wonder why God chose the small area of land for His chosen people Israel. I imagine how great that nation could have become if they would have settled in North America. So I have to ask, why didn't God move His people to this land?
As I see it, Dynamite comes in Small packages, along with Nitro Glycerin. The Bigger one is the harder one falls
God is not small,
I always saw this growing up
To watch out for the person not saying anything, sitting over in their contentment
The Loud Mouth is the fool. I have been a show off/loud mouth, and learned in seeing. as not good for me to not be one, a show off.
To know to not to have to know
"The art of fighting without fighting" is exactly what God did through Son for us to get saved in his resurrection. Amen, otherwise no one stands a chance in my honest opinion
 

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I often wonder why God chose the small area of land for His chosen people Israel. I imagine how great that nation could have become if they would have settled in North America. So I have to ask, why didn't God move His people to this land?
The reason God did not is because the USA is not the promised land.
 

John146

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I often wonder why God chose the small area of land for His chosen people Israel. I imagine how great that nation could have become if they would have settled in North America. So I have to ask, why didn't God move His people to this land?
Israel, in particular Jerusalem, is the center of the earth. See also the garden of Eden.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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I often wonder why God chose the small area of land for His chosen people Israel. I imagine how great that nation could have become if they would have settled in North America. So I have to ask, why didn't God move His people to this land?

I used to often wonder why the preachers I followed called the people living on that land mass "His chosen people?"
 

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The original Israelite's probably have their dna in all nations of the world.Just not in everyone.
 

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I often wonder why God chose the small area of land for His chosen people Israel. I imagine how great that nation could have become if they would have settled in North America. So I have to ask, why didn't God move His people to this land?
But He did, the USA is home to millions of Jews.
 

Nehemiah6

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So I have to ask, why didn't God move His people to this land?
You are forgetting that God chose Caanan as the Land of Promise for the Israelites for good reasons. He called it the land of milk and honey, and the fruits that the twelve spies brought back were extraordinary. So long before they entered that land God gave it to Abraham within the Abrahamic Covenant. Also Abrahamic was to told to sacrifice Isaac on Mount Moriah, which is where the temple was built. Later on the area surrounding Mount Moriah became "Jebus" (the ancient name for Jerusalem. And God chose Zion (Jerusalem) as a very special city for Himself. Christ would also be sacrificed just outside Jerusalem.

At that time Canaan was extremely fruitful (probably because of its climate and soil), but continental America was practically barren. So there are your biblical reasons.

Something else to keep in mind is that Greater Israel (from the Nile to the Euphrates) will be occupied by the twelve tribes after the Second Coming of Christ. Thus Jerusalem and Israel and the keys to all Bible prophecies regarding future events. At present, neither of them is anywhere close to what they should be. But that will change later.
 

Nehemiah6

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But He did, the USA is home to millions of Jews.
Only superficially and only temporarily. And these American Jews don't even know who their friends are, and who are there enemies.

Plus many these Jews themselves are enemies of America, while living in America (especially the Jewish billionaires). They don't even value the Constitution and its freedoms.

Israeli Jews are in Israel because they want to be in a Jewish homeland. But now that Israel is under an existential threat, they are insisting the the government prioritize hostage release instead of total war against Islamist terrorists. They don't even understand that the hostages have all been mostly killed. They are holding all kinds of protests instead of backing their government. So altogether Jewish blindness is both spiritual and political at this time.
 

Nehemiah6

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I used to often wonder why the preachers I followed called the people living on that land mass "His chosen people?"
Because originally the Israelites were indeed called His chosen people. But it really does not apply to those in Israel today, unless one only sees the historical aspect of Israel. Israel and its history occupies a large portion of the Bible. But the Jews of Jesus' day forgot why God chose Israel.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Because originally the Israelites were indeed called His chosen people. But it really does not apply to those in Israel today, unless one only sees the historical aspect of Israel. Israel and its history occupies a large portion of the Bible. But the Jews of Jesus' day forgot why God chose Israel.

That's what I started to understand as I read the Bible more. I asked questions about their acceptance and rejection of Jesus/ God.
Then I started asking things about how these people got there, who were they and how would they know their lineages when I didn't even find the names of my great great grandfathers. Everyone moves to a different part of the world and calls themselves an Israeli from the lineage of going back well over 2,000 years. That's some major historical record keeping that millions of people accomplished along with all of those ancestors.
Is it permissable to question C.I. Scoffied's notes? 😄
 

Ballaurena

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I often wonder why God chose the small area of land for His chosen people Israel. I imagine how great that nation could have become if they would have settled in North America. So I have to ask, why didn't God move His people to this land?
Because America was slated for something else.
 

Ballaurena

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You are forgetting that God chose Caanan as the Land of Promise for the Israelites for good reasons. He called it the land of milk and honey, and the fruits that the twelve spies brought back were extraordinary. So long before they entered that land God gave it to Abraham within the Abrahamic Covenant. Also Abrahamic was to told to sacrifice Isaac on Mount Moriah, which is where the temple was built. Later on the area surrounding Mount Moriah became "Jebus" (the ancient name for Jerusalem. And God chose Zion (Jerusalem) as a very special city for Himself. Christ would also be sacrificed just outside Jerusalem.

At that time Canaan was extremely fruitful (probably because of its climate and soil), but continental America was practically barren. So there are your biblical reasons.

Something else to keep in mind is that Greater Israel (from the Nile to the Euphrates) will be occupied by the twelve tribes after the Second Coming of Christ. Thus Jerusalem and Israel and the keys to all Bible prophecies regarding future events. At present, neither of them is anywhere close to what they should be. But that will change later.
Lots of good points there.

You also remind me that God wasn't doing it all for just Israel's sake - He was doing it as a witness to the whole world. Since the world was more centered around the Middle East back then, it made sense to put Israel where it is in the thick of things.
 

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I often wonder why God chose the small area of land for His chosen people Israel. I imagine how great that nation could have become if they would have settled in North America. So I have to ask, why didn't God move His people to this land?
I believe God specifically chose Israel because it is a small nation and He wants to show His power in them.
 

JohnRH

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I often wonder why God chose the small area of land for His chosen people Israel. I imagine how great that nation could have become if they would have settled in North America. So I have to ask, why didn't God move His people to this land?
But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; 28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: 29 That no flesh should glory in his presence. 1 Cor 1:27-29 (KJV)
 

Cameron143

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I believe God specifically chose Israel because it is a small nation and He wants to show His power in them.
It wasn't even a nation until God separated Abraham and Sarah and began to make Himself known to them. Like mankind, God forged the nation Israel out of a people who were not a people.