Why I keep the Sabbath FYI.

[Least]

Least, don't play innocent. You and your lackeys have been peddling this stuff for years.

Sharing the scriptures Tintin? My lackeys? Not even sure how to respond to that accusation.

 

[Brother_Don]

All good things come to those who wait on Yahweh.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

You're the one coming on a thread about the peaceful Sabbath days, and showing your un-peaceful heart.

Somebody left the door open.

 

[james57]

Exodus 20:8, Remember the Sabbath Day, to keep it Holy.

Thank you for your quote from the old Testament( covenant. ) I will quote from the new one:

One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. Rom 14:5

 

[Least]

Thank you for your quote from the old Testament( covenant. ) I will quote from the new one:

One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. Rom 14:5

It's actually been quoted already, but with the full passage.

Romans 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
Romans 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Romans 14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

 

[james57]

It's actually been quoted already, but with the full passage.

Romans 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
Romans 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Romans 14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

Absolutely, we appear to be in agreement on this. It is up to the individual if they wish to observe a specific day of the week as a Sabbath day, and also whether they went to eat or not eat the levitical unclean foods(verses 14&20) It is not for any Christian to find fault, or criticise whichever view you take on these two issues, nor to insist you do as they do concerning them

 

[WarriorHadassah]

Good Morning,


I think everyone needs to sit in the corner for 15 minutes until everyone learn how to respect each other beliefs without causing schisms. Write 1000 times: I will not disrespect the Holy Word of God in this manner of debating." You know this is how wars are cause by different opinions of religious matters because people cannot respect one another beliefs. Just fellowship on what everyone has in common with each other that is the love for Jesus. Building each other up, edify one another and share the Word with respect. Pray for the nations, families, and for each other.

 

[Utah]

So here is why I keep the Sabbath, and guess what it is not because the 4th commandment says so. Don't get me wrong the 4th commandment did play a role in why I keep the Sabbath but it is not the reason I keep the Sabbath.

Let me explain,

See I know the Law shows us sin as it is written:


Rom 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

So the law does not save or justify but gives us or shows us what sin is.

So why then is the 4th commandment there? here is what it says:
Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

So sin is not remembering to keep the Sabbath Holy, but why? what is so important about this 7th day Sabbath that makes it sin not to keep it? The answer I find is in the commandment itself as it is written:
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

So the reason is because God created and on this day he rested/stopped and blessed this day and sanctified it or set it apart for Holy use.

This sparked my interest, out of all the 10 commandments 9 of them make sense as sin, don't kill, steal, put God first etc. They all make sense, but the one commandment that makes the least sense is the 4th why keep the 7th day Holy? This is why in verse 11 God gives us a reason.

God wants us to know why it is sin not to keep the 7th day Sabbath, he wants us to understand that the reason He wants us to keep it Holy is because that was the day He made Holy, that He blessed after making the heavens and the earth and us.

So I went back to see this and just as the commandment says so I found as it is written:
Gen 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
Gen 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

So suddenly I realized that this day did not become holy when God gave the commandment, but was already holy right back at the beginning before sin even came to this world. And it was Holy because God made it so. This day was special because it was made by God to be Holy to be set apart. Its not different because of a law, its different because God made it so.

What then is the purpose of the law on this point? It serves as a reminder, a call to remember that the day is holy because God made it so as it is written:

Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

So the law did exactly what it was meant to do, it pointed out what was sin by showing what was good.

The 7th day Sabbath needs no law to apply because all the commandment does is remind us of the fact that the 7th day was made holy from the beginning. It calls us to remember that it is set apart from other days by God because He rested on that day and made it special.

So you may be wondering, why many who keep the Sabbath use the 4th commandment so much when talking to those who do not keep it. The answer is simple, It is the commandment that points out sin by what is good. To those who break it the law serves to remind and point them to the unchangeable fact that the 7th day has been Holy right back from the foundation of the world.

The law only serves to remind us and point us to why we should be keeping the Sabbath.

If keeping the Sabbath strengthens your relationship with God through Jesus Christ, then rejoice.

 

[Least]

If keeping the Sabbath strengthens your relationship with God through Jesus Christ, then rejoice.

Amen Utah, for my family everyone is always so busy that we hardly have any time to spend together much less time to spend together in the word. It's become a way for us to come together and share in the word and to praise God, and to touch base on what's really important to us.

I would highly recommend this for all families no matter what day it is. It's always just wonderful just to come together as a family and thank God for all that He has done. There's nothing else like praising God with those He's blessed us with in our own personal lives.

 

[gb9]

Good Morning,


I think everyone needs to sit in the corner for 15 minutes until everyone learn how to respect each other beliefs without causing schisms. Write 1000 times: I will not disrespect the Holy Word of God in this manner of debating." You know this is how wars are cause by different opinions of religious matters because people cannot respect one another beliefs. Just fellowship on what everyone has in common with each other that is the love for Jesus. Building each other up, edify one another and share the Word with respect. Pray for the nations, families, and for each other.

well, this would be a reachable goal if folks would stop saying if you don't keep the Sabbath, if you eat pork, if you believe this or don't believe that, then you are a sinner, not saved,etc.. stop judgement calls that you should not make. ( I am not referring to you warriorhadassah, to others).

 

[KohenMatt]

So the law did exactly what it was meant to do, it pointed out what was sin by showing what was good.

The 7th day Sabbath needs no law to apply because all the commandment does is remind us of the fact that the 7th day was made holy from the beginning. It calls us to remember that it is set apart from other days by God because He rested on that day and made it special.

So you may be wondering, why many who keep the Sabbath use the 4th commandment so much when talking to those who do not keep it. The answer is simple, It is the commandment that points out sin by what is good. To those who break it the law serves to remind and point them to the unchangeable fact that the 7th day has been Holy right back from the foundation of the world.

The law only serves to remind us and point us to why we should be keeping the Sabbath.

It's very obvious that you worship the sabbath, and are trusting in your behavior on that day to save you.

Oh, please.

 

[GandalfTheWhite]

Oh, please.

People don't get it

 

[KohenMatt]

Thank you for your quote from the old Testament( covenant. ) I will quote from the new one:

One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. Rom 14:5

So if everyone can consider one day more sacred than another, and each of them should be fully convinced, it is perfectly acceptable for Sabbath-keepers to see the Sabbath as set-apart and holy.

 

[KohenMatt]

well, this would be a reachable goal if folks would stop saying if you don't keep the Sabbath, if you eat pork, if you believe this or don't believe that, then you are a sinner, not saved,etc.. stop judgement calls that you should not make. ( I am not referring to you warriorhadassah, to others).

I have yet to find anyone here who says that if you don't keep the Sabbath you're not saved.

 

[james57]

So if everyone can consider one day more sacred than another, and each of them should be fully convinced, it is perfectly acceptable for Sabbath-keepers to see the Sabbath as set-apart and holy.

Absolutely, yes. The problem only comes if thy insist everyone else must do the same.
Paul termed the subjects he mentioned in rom ch 14 as disputable matters. Therefore you are free to take whichever path you believe is correct for you

 

[KohenMatt]

Absolutely, yes. The problem only comes if thy insist everyone else must do the same.
Paul termed the subjects he mentioned in rom ch 14 as disputable matters. Therefore you are free to take whichever path you believe is correct for you

And I agree. But I also see just as many people who say that insist that you do not keep the Sabbath or the Law. It would be nice if both parties kept this perspective.

 

[GandalfTheWhite]

Therefore you are free to take whichever path you believe is correct for you

Or maybe your favourite, trust the Holy Spirit to write on your heart what a non-changing God will expect of His children

 

[james57]

Or maybe your favourite, trust the Holy Spirit to write on your heart what a non-changing God will expect of His children

I'm glad you mentioned that-thankyou. If Paul is wrong about it being a disputable matter and God for instance desired all christians to observe a set Sabbath day I'm sure you would agree the command to do so would be placed on your heart. I am sure you understand the implications. It would no longer be a disputable matter. Those who had no conscience before God they were sinning by refusing to observe a set Sabbath day could not be saved. I don't think God expects hid children to judge another's salvation on such an issue, do you?

 

[JesusLives]

It's very obvious that you worship the sabbath, and are trusting in your behavior on that day to save you.

This is a very big assumption on your part.... P.S. It is the God who created the Sabbath that we worship not trusting in a day of worship to save us. We know that Jesus died to save us and are just showing our love and loyalty in worshiping on the day God asked us to remember to worship on.

 

[JesusLives]

Can't have that. Misery, or should I say bondage, loves company. They can't stand it that they're in bondage and we are free. So the many words to try to bring us into bondage.

John 8:36"So if the Son makes you free, you will be free indeed

We are free by the death of Jesus free from sin and death.