Why do Israeli's HATE Christians-?

[Thomasd38]

well establish members

If these are...don't wish to be! Isnt the site I'm looking for, I'm looking for REAL Christians!!! REAL Christians tout the teaching of Jesus The Christ...nothing else...anything else is anti-Christ.

So apparently you've never read Romans 11

OK...not really sure what your cryptic, subdued message is, but yes...have read the entire KJV, several times as I was in school as a child...Community Christian School here in Bradenton...+-10years...family very Christian as well...you tempt my pride, as I am proud of my knowledge of the scripture...there is NOTHING more important!
I am quite familiar with the chapter as within it Paul explain that Christ has not thrown his people away, and that he is a Benjamite (verse 10 I believe) Paul, a Christian Hebrew that was once a Jew...confuses so many people the Devil giggles!
Now, may I suggest you read Matthew 23, John 8:44, Revelation 2:9, 3:9, Acts 7:43, Galatians 3:28...and well, the entire Bible, as picking out one chapter isn't enough! You have to understand the intent, and you can only obtain this by reading, and taking the book, in its entirety. Let me see if I can simplify this for you...as obvious as this is , something bewitches people where they don't seem to understand!:
Hebrews=A race of People after Abraham
Jews=A religious sect, made up of MOSTLY Hebrews, and WAS the religion of Abraham and the Hebrews until the coming of the Messiah (Jesus the Christ)
Folks...why do you think Jesus called them the "children of the Devil"? Was he talking about Hebrews? If you don't understand this I beseech you to re-read the book of Galatians as Paul explains it CLEARLY!!!
You are working overtime for the Devil when you tout that a Hebrew is the same as a Jew! Do not condemn the Hebrew people...it is a matter of religion, not race! (The Devil want's the opposite)

 

[Thomasd38]

Woah, woah you're a what now?!! A Muslim Christian?! Do mean you converted from Islam to Christianity?? Listen I have news for you, it's Christ + nothing. No other belief. If it's not that, you're lost. The only way is Jesus.

Wow...okay, starting to see a troll now...really, never heard of sarcasm huh?

 

[Thomasd38]

CC looks like we're going to have to be more diligent with these anti-Semitic people spreading their nonsense on this site. It's getting tiresome. I have friends, a couple that lived in Israel for years and ministered there. They love it there and the people. They had to come back to the states for a few years but can't wait to go back. So what you're saying is utter nonsense. My pastor has gone to Israel several times and taken church members there, loves Israel and the people.So go and spread your nonsense somewhere else.

It is EXACTLY your, and those through history JUST like you, indifference and ignorance (and in some cases servitude) towards Jews that has allowed 2000 years of persecution of the Hebrew people!!! Funny, when we point our finger at someone else, we forget there are three others pointing back at us!

 

[Thomasd38]

LOL...Stop the hate! Says the fuming troll foaming at the mouth! Spewing incoherent slogans and rhetoric...done...blocked!

 

[Victor1999]

It is EXACTLY your, and those through history JUST like you, indifference and ignorance (and in some cases servitude) towards Jews that has allowed 2000 years of persecution of the Hebrew people!!! Funny, when we point our finger at someone else, we forget there are three others pointing back at us!

It was persecution of Jewish people. Hebrews were persecuted for having Judaism in the family. In turning Christians against Jews the devil makes Christians sin and Jews are kept from coming to Christ. All the persecution of Jews over the years have caused the Jewish community to view Christianity as an anti-Semitic threat to existence. That's not what Christ wants! Do not exclude the Jewish people from God's plan. These Jews who curse the savior will one day bless Him. The hardening of their hearts will not remain forever, says The Word of God. The Jews Christ preached to also had many flaws in their religion, it is not a modern thing. Christ still came for them first and then to the gentiles, He did what He could to save as many of them from their wrong ways and we should also pray for them.

 

[Godsgirl83]

Funny, when we point our finger at someone else, we forget there are three others pointing back at us!

All I'm going to say here right now (so DON'T expect a reply from me if you answer this) is:
Are you looking in the mirror when you say this?????
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John 8:7 comes to mind reading your post.

Look, I get (I think) where you are coming from.
BUT when you walk into a place and start pointing that finger at everyone else, well the truth you are wanting to get across DOES NOT get through to people. YES, there are things in this world the Lord HATES; HOWEVER, He does not badger people about it. It is done through LOVE. REALLY loving a person and wanting to changes in their life for the Kingdom DOES NOT COME when done in a haughty prideful manner.

In your first post you referred to Proverbs 6.
(copied directly from your intro thread)
"These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

17A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

18An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

19A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. "

As someone who has not had conversations with you yet, from the outside looking in, I see things from that very list that YOU so strongly speak about, being displayed IN YOU.

You said so yourself that:

.you tempt my pride, as I am proud of my knowledge of the scripture...there is NOTHING more important!

There IS SOMETHING more important than KNOWLEDGE of the scripture, after all even Satan KNOWS the scripture.
What is important is that you (me, whomever) acknowledges Jesus, what He has done for us AND invites Him into our hearts and lives.
"there is NOTHING more important!" than that.

 

[Godsgirl83]

All the persecution of Jews over the years have caused the Jewish community to view Christianity as an anti-Semitic threat to existence.

Your saying that helps with a thought I didn't know how to bring up or word, but many people forget the fact that
HITLER CALLED HIMSELF A CHRISTIAN.

 

[Thomasd38]

Hello,

31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Jeremiah 31:
at the time of Jeremiah writing this the separate nation of Israel had been conquered and removed by the Assyrians and did not exist as a kingdom; but Judah with Jerusalem remained.

Okay...acknowledged?! Not really sure what a history lesson is for?
BTW...Funny to me how "Christians" always set back to the Old Testament to gain support for the Children of the Devil...hardly ever search the ACTUAL words of Jesus in the New...but ok!

6 Now when they had gone throughout Phrygia and the region of Galatia, and were forbidden of the Holy Ghost to preach the word in Asia,
7 After they were come to Mysia, they assayed to go into Bithynia: but the Spirit suffered them not.
8 And they passing by Mysia came down to Troas.
9 And a vision appeared to Paul in the night; There stood a man of Macedonia, and prayed him, saying, Come over into Macedonia, and help us.
10 And after he had seen the vision, immediately we endeavoured to go into Macedonia, assuredly gathering that the Lord had called us for to preach the gospel unto them.
Acts 16:
And thus Jeremiah 31 is fulfilled and the gospel (Acts 2:38-39) is preached to the lost tribes of Israel >
the people of Europe and the Europe becomes a Christian civilization.

It helps your validity to post Biblical reference...not doing so seems like you figment a word here and there, oh, but can't verify...even what "translation" your "quoting" (really don't know without reference). But just FYI...for me, the ONLY Bible is the KJV, quoting from anything else is gibberish (One might recall how the jews paid a convicted felon to rewrite the Bible...omitting their guilt for killing Jesus...) and that's just one of the over 50 "translations" ...I love to debate with definite, established facts...and verification of fact is only able to be done with references.
However, here again, I believe you are conflating "Hebrew" with "Jew"...at one point you call the children of Jacobs Fourth son Judah "The Jews", yes...for a time the other Hebrews called the descendants of Judah, "Jews"...like Benjamites or Levites...but TODAY this distinction isn't needed...since we aren't in other Hebrew tribes...
Again, let me point back to Matthew 23...who do YOU think Jesus was addressing...the Hebrews as a race or the Judaic religion?

 

[kaylagrl]

If these are...don't wish to be! Isnt the site I'm looking for, I'm looking for REAL Christians!!! REAL Christians tout the teaching of Jesus The Christ...nothing else...anything else is anti-Christ.


OK...not really sure what your cryptic, subdued message is, but yes...have read the entire KJV, several times as I was in school as a child...

How is asking someone if they read a portion of Scripture "cryptic"? Seems like a very direct question.


Community Christian School here in Bradenton...+-10years...family very Christian as well...you tempt my pride, as I am proud of my knowledge of the scripture...there is NOTHING more important!

Tempt your pride? Well ok. rofl Yes,knowledge of Scripture is important, but you can be wrong too.


I am quite familiar with the chapter as within it Paul explain that Christ has not thrown his people away, and that he is a Benjamite (verse 10 I believe) Paul, a Christian Hebrew that was once a Jew...confuses so many people the Devil giggles!

I highly doubt the devil "giggles". Paul didn't stop being a Jew (race) and he never stopped reaching out to the Jewish people (religion). There is no confusion. Romans is very clear.


Now, may I suggest you read Matthew 23, John 8:44, Revelation 2:9, 3:9, Acts 7:43, Galatians 3:28...and well, the entire Bible, as picking out one chapter isn't enough! You have to understand the intent, and you can only obtain this by reading, and taking the book, in its entirety. Let me see if I can simplify this for you...as obvious as this is , something bewitches people where they don't seem to understand!:
Hebrews=A race of People after Abraham
Jews=A religious sect, made up of MOSTLY Hebrews, and WAS the religion of Abraham and the Hebrews until the coming of the Messiah (Jesus the Christ)
Folks...why do you think Jesus called them the "children of the Devil"? Was he talking about Hebrews? If you don't understand this I beseech you to re-read the book of Galatians as Paul explains it CLEARLY!!!
You are working overtime for the Devil when you tout that a Hebrew is the same as a Jew! Do not condemn the Hebrew people...it is a matter of religion, not race! (The Devil want's the opposite)

It is you who has been bewitched. Jesus did not mean that Jewish people are of the devil, He was speaking to a specific people, the Pharisees. They were trying to kill Him. Now, some Jews believed in Jesus and became the first Christians, so they weren't of the devil now where they? Anyone Jew or Gentile that is not a believer and is lost, Their father is the devil. But that can change, people can become believers when they hear the truth. We have Messianic Jews. They have heard and believe and according to that cryptic Romans 11 the Jews will come to recognize their Messiah and grieve.

 

[kaylagrl]

Wow...okay, starting to see a troll now...really, never heard of sarcasm huh?

Man, say what you mean! A troll, yes you see one, you're looking in a mirror. You made no indication that you were joking.

 

[Thomasd38]

All I'm going to say here right now (so DON'T expect a reply from me if you answer this) is:

I will address any and all who come to challenge my interpretation of scripture in this fashion:
If it is perverse, filthy and wrong, it comes from me
If it is holy, righteous and wise, it has come from Christ
I seek to be righteous and thoroughly furnished unto all good works...if something I believe in is non-Biblical, then I AM wrong!! If YOU want (and I take it you do, as YOU posted here) to challenge MY stance, then do so with coherent, applicable scripture...or don't bother!!!

There IS SOMETHING more important than KNOWLEDGE of the scripture, after all even Satan KNOWS the scripture.
What is important is that you (me, whomever) acknowledges Jesus, what He has done for us AND invites Him into our hearts and lives.
"there is NOTHING more important!" than that.

"My people perish for lack of knowledge"

Your saying that helps with a thought I didn't know how to bring up or word, but many people forget the fact that
HITLER CALLED HIMSELF A CHRISTIAN.

Actually he called himself a "Catholic"...but anyone can call themselves anything...like "Jewish-Christians"... a complete oxymoron! (because they don't "know" what a Jew is) Brother Nathanael, a GREAT Christian man, identifies as a Christian Hebrew...what he is! (Like Ann said, near perfect!)

 

[kaylagrl]

It is EXACTLY your, and those through history JUST like you, indifference and ignorance (and in some cases servitude) towards Jews that has allowed 2000 years of persecution of the Hebrew people!!! Funny, when we point our finger at someone else, we forget there are three others pointing back at us!

What are you on about now? Stop talking in circles. There are Jews from every nation. I have no issue with the Jewish people.

 

[kaylagrl]

I will address any and all who come to challenge my interpretation of scripture in this fashion:
If it is perverse, filthy and wrong, it comes from me
If it is holy, righteous and wise, it has come from Christ
I seek to be righteous and thoroughly furnished unto all good works...if something I believe in is non-Biblical, then I AM wrong!! If YOU want (and I take it you do, as YOU posted here) to challenge MY stance, then do so with coherent, applicable scripture...or don't bother!!!



"My people perish for lack of knowledge"



Actually he called himself a "Catholic"...but anyone can call themselves anything...like "Jewish-Christians"... a complete oxymoron! (because they don't "know" what a Jew is) Brother Nathanael, a GREAT Christian man, identifies as a Christian Hebrew...what he is! (Like Ann said, near perfect!)

REPORTED !!!

 

[kaylagrl]

It was persecution of Jewish people. Hebrews were persecuted for having Judaism in the family. In turning Christians against Jews the devil makes Christians sin and Jews are kept from coming to Christ. All the persecution of Jews over the years have caused the Jewish community to view Christianity as an anti-Semitic threat to existence. That's not what Christ wants! Do not exclude the Jewish people from God's plan. These Jews who curse the savior will one day bless Him. The hardening of their hearts will not remain forever, says The Word of God. The Jews Christ preached to also had many flaws in their religion, it is not a modern thing. Christ still came for them first and then to the gentiles, He did what He could to save as many of them from their wrong ways and we should also pray for them.

Perfect answer!! The Bible says salvation was to the Jews first. They rejected it but they will one day see their error and come to the Savior. Pitifully there are those who hate the Jews so much that they do the work of satan, and use the Bible to do it. Sad.

 

[Thomasd38]

Your saying that helps with a thought I didn't know how to bring up or word, but many people forget the fact that
HITLER CALLED HIMSELF A CHRISTIAN.

BTW...I almost forgot!
Do you post this as an affirmation that what Hitler said was the truth?!? LOL?

 

[Thomasd38]

It was persecution of Jewish people. Hebrews were persecuted for having Judaism in the family. In turning Christians against Jews the devil makes Christians sin and Jews are kept from coming to Christ. All the persecution of Jews over the years have caused the Jewish community to view Christianity as an anti-Semitic threat to existence. That's not what Christ wants! Do not exclude the Jewish people from God's plan. These Jews who curse the savior will one day bless Him. The hardening of their hearts will not remain forever, says The Word of God. The Jews Christ preached to also had many flaws in their religion, it is not a modern thing. Christ still came for them first and then to the gentiles, He did what He could to save as many of them from their wrong ways and we should also pray for them.

Amen Brother, this is my cross to bear!
I hate evil, I hate sin, I hate it in myself most of all!! The hatred acknowledges that I don't accept sin. The bitterness of past iniquities reminds my carnal nature of the wages of sin, which is death. Those who choose to side with Belial can perish with him (I recon to David with a stern judgement like this) and the debased Jewish religion is the apex of this unholy union.
However, as I read the book of Malachi, and perceive the curse of the Israelite's for "robbing God" (I also) I acknowledge that "theft" would also include killing, whether "justified" or not. I don't know because I haven't honestly been in the situation, but I don't believe I would kill if "my life depended on it"...I would be robbing from God!!

Psalm 139:
For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain. Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.

 

[Subhumanoidal]

A change of clothes, a tan and some language lessons and we may have a genuine, straight from the bible Pharisee in our midst. Doubtful any are alive after this long, but some people really make you wonder.

 

[Thomasd38]

A change of clothes, a tan and some language lessons and we may have a genuine, straight from the bible Pharisee in our midst. Doubtful any are alive after this long, but some people really make you wonder.

Oh, friend, if only that were the least of our woes...If you look at present day jews, well there ARE your Pharisee's!
The problem, the seeping cancer, THAT starts when PSS (Pharisee's, Sadducee and Scribes... the tenants of Judaism) start donning crosses around their necks, dye their hair and start touting "Jesus was a jew" or "Isn't Israel holy?" in essence, crying "Barabbas!" once again! That dysfunction should have never been allowed to have happened, as they should never have been allowed in this country, as a few of our founding Fathers warned. We SHOULD have kept this country Christian!
PS I dont care if your white black or pink with purple poke dots...if your Christian you are my brother/sister

 

[kaylagrl]

Jesus was a JEW. And the Jew's are still God's chosen people. Those who don't know this are reading their Bible upside down. Turn it right side up and read it properly. We are grafted in and should not boast. One day the Jews will come to know their Messiah. We need to pray for them, as the Word tells us to do.

 

[Handsm1]

Hi, well, the question is not totally relevant, for example Benjamin Netanyahu has been visiting my former church World of Life in Sweden. He is very positive to christians and can appreciate christian support and prayers.

However, in case of hate, we christians, real christians or nations in the Wester world have shed a lot of jewish blood that so to say are on our hands. The inqvisision in Spain, the pogroms in Poland, Martin Luthers wrongdoings. That would be a reason.

Then there is a spiritual hate, from jewish people from the unseen world, That’s why we must pray for and bless Israel, protect them, they are part in the end times drama and Jesus return even if they don’t know it.

More can be said about them but as believing christians we should extend our love to them, as the end time comes nearer they will turn to Jeshua (Jesus), You can find Messianic worship on You tube from Israel. Jews that have received Jesus as their Messaiah.

Kind regards// Urban, Sweden