Why do Israeli's HATE Christians-?
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kaylagrl
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Some may hate Christians but certainly not all.But read history and see what many so called "Christians" have done to the Jews and you would understand why Jews would mistrust Christians,
Glory to God, I have been to Israel many times what means I was able to socialize with Israelis with different backgrounds. From my point of view, people there don't pay so much attention to your religion as number of guys worldwide may think. And in Israel you are far away from being discriminated for your faith in Jesus Christ.
God bless us all.
God bless us all.
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wwjd_kilden
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They do?
That's odd, because my parents have just been to Israel, and didn't mention anything about anyone hating them
as a matter of fact, they met a lot of very friendly people
That's odd, because my parents have just been to Israel, and didn't mention anything about anyone hating them
as a matter of fact, they met a lot of very friendly people
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jeff_peacemkr
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it is written, you will be hated, because the world hates Me.... if the world doesn't hate you, you're not in Christ.
if you are in Christ body on earth, the world hates you. Yahweh's Word cannot be changed. the world loves its own.
[h=1] from biblegateway:
"John 15:19Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)[/h] [SUP]19 [/SUP]If you belonged to the world, the world would have loved its own. But because you do not belong to the world — on the contrary, I have picked you out of the world — therefore the world hates you. "
if you are in Christ body on earth, the world hates you. Yahweh's Word cannot be changed. the world loves its own.
[h=1] from biblegateway:
"John 15:19Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)[/h] [SUP]19 [/SUP]If you belonged to the world, the world would have loved its own. But because you do not belong to the world — on the contrary, I have picked you out of the world — therefore the world hates you. "
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Mitspa
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Amen and this is the whole of the matter....We love the gospel therefore we love the Jews
Your use of the term "scum" shows your inner nature.
Christians in Jerusalem Want Jews to Stop Spitting on Them
read more: Christians in Jerusalem Want Jews to Stop Spitting on Them - Haaretz - Israel News Haaretz.com
In a reference to the long-standing, continual incidents of Orthodox Jewish extremists in Jerusalem spitting at Christian clergy, Pizzaballa said: "When I came to the country, I was told that I should know that if I walk around with a frock in the city [of Jerusalem], people would spit on me, and I shouldn't be offended, it's normal."
read more: Senior Catholic Cleric: 'If Jews Want Respect, They Must Respect Others' - Haaretz
Senior Catholic Cleric: 'If Jews Want Respect, They Must Respect Others' - Haaretz
Ultra-Orthodox Spitting Attacks on Old City Clergymen Becoming Daily
read more: Ultra-Orthodox Spitting Attacks on Old City Clergymen Becoming Daily - Haaretz
Being spat at remains part of life for Christians in Jerusalem
Being spat at remains part of life for Christians in Jerusalem
Google "spitting on Christians" and you will get--
About 381,000 results (0.56 seconds)
This is news never, never reported by the US press & one must ask~~~ why not-?
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Amen and this is the whole of the matter....We love the gospel therefore we love the Jews
King James Bible
Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.
I had no idea this was happening. Do you know the frequency of this spitting incidents? About once a day in the whole country on average? Only in Jerusalem, or other cities in Israel too?
Why don't the Christians get them arrested?
What if they retaliated? Would they get arrested?
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robertmichaels
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I have known of this practice of theirs - at least spitting when they hear the name of JESUS, for years, and now i see it's confirmed here! (by tooldtocare) - and i'm afraid that spitting is the least of their offenses historically, when you do an honest (and oftimes unwelcome) review of 20th century history! - e.g. " The () label “Judeo-Bolshevist” is actually quite accurate - the whole Communist revolutionary movement in 1917 was instigated by radical (mainly) Jewish revolutionaries including Trotsky who had travelled over from New York, fully funded by their Jewish bankers back there, to destroy the Orthodox Christian Russian royal family and set up their godless Marxist ideological systems, which then led to the horribly cruel torture and murder of almost countless Millions (65M+)!?! of innocent Russians and others over many decades (just google ‘solzhenitsyn gulag archipelago’ for that one, though he may not make it clear they were actually Jewish) However this article certainly does: - THEY MURDERED 65 MILLION CHRISTIANS, 1919-1940 BUT ZIONIST OWNED U.S. NEWSPAPERS NEVER TOLD US ”These Christians arhttp://www.jewwatch.com/gif-ukrainian-dead-crosses.jpghttp://www.jewwatch.com/gif-ukrainian-dead-crosses.jpge but a few of the 100,000,000 Christian innocents who were exterminated by the Anti-Christian Jewish Red Commissars in Russia under the orders of Trotsky, the Jewish Commissar of Commissars. Yet Spielberg will never Direct a "Schindler's List" Movie for them or their genocide. Why is that? Because Jews did it” ...
...the 65(+) MILLION innocent people who then in the following years and decades fell victim across Russian and eastern Europe need to be recognized and at least given the honour of a MENTION - a mention which is very conspicuous by its ABSENSE in the controlled medias of today, and WHY? - for the same reason as why there is such a silence about the obscene GENOCIDE of 1,500,000 (+) ARMENIAN Christians also starting from 1916, and perpetrated by the same types - for the simple answer, just read on … ! see more here: Home | Why do You Claim to be a Seeker or Proclaimer of the Truth, and Yet … ?!
...the 65(+) MILLION innocent people who then in the following years and decades fell victim across Russian and eastern Europe need to be recognized and at least given the honour of a MENTION - a mention which is very conspicuous by its ABSENSE in the controlled medias of today, and WHY? - for the same reason as why there is such a silence about the obscene GENOCIDE of 1,500,000 (+) ARMENIAN Christians also starting from 1916, and perpetrated by the same types - for the simple answer, just read on … ! see more here: Home | Why do You Claim to be a Seeker or Proclaimer of the Truth, and Yet … ?!
The Israelite's and Jews have, through God, given the world so much. But there was a reason God granted them a certificate of divorce and most of them eventually were taken captive and lost to time.
Tel Aviv is not much different then NYC in its "tolerance" and liberalism.
And of course most of them reject Jesus. But then again, so does most of the world.
All that, and we are still called to love them, pray for them, and help them in the natural if we can. They are our spiritual ancestors.
God have mercy on them. God have mercy on us all.
Tel Aviv is not much different then NYC in its "tolerance" and liberalism.
And of course most of them reject Jesus. But then again, so does most of the world.
All that, and we are still called to love them, pray for them, and help them in the natural if we can. They are our spiritual ancestors.
God have mercy on them. God have mercy on us all.
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kaylagrl
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[h=2]Why do Israeli's HATE Christians?[/h]
Who says they do? Rather a blanket statement there with zero proof. Christians are all over Israel, I dont see them being beheaded,murdered,tortured by Jews.
Quote "It strikes as being bleedin' obvious where anti-semitism comesfrom.
It comes from a natural distrust of a small insular community which has power, wealth and influence out of
all proportion to it's size.
Now why would a Jew distrust people? Its not like they have any reason...hey wait. Again,another blanket statement with no proof.
Quote "which has power, wealth and influence out of
all proportion to it's size.
Says who? Who sets the limit to wealth? Why is it your business? God blesses Israel. It was once a desert and now a thriving country. If you cant see Gods blessing on the Jews you'd have to be blind and stupid.
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kaylagrl
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They don't! Someone is trying to stir something up. Otherwise known as anti-semitism.
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kaylagrl
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For the love a..... another post that should have been deleted. Urrgh these stupid old posts that people dig up!!
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robertmichaels
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If you take time to study history properly, you will see that so-called anti-semitism was created by the Jew's own repeated deviant behaviour over the centuries, including but not limited to capturing and torturing Gentile boys to death, especially around easter time! (Oops, now i'm gonna get called A_S, you watch - wait for it! ...) These true accounts are preserved in many old records in libraries, and cannot be dismissed as just 'blood libels" - a term created to ridicule those who dare mention it (which now includes me!) - thus it was not for no reason they were expelled from so many countries - go figure.
Ok, will i now get expelled from here because i'm not praising the Jews/Israel with every sentence? - Let's see what happens... NOW, to the 20th-21st century: - Yes there are Christians all over Israel, and yes many do get spat on, though u don't often hear about it in the Jew-controlled presses, and yes, they don't get beheaded IN Israel, because the world = metropolitan community is watching, but they DO get raped, tortured and beheaded across parts of the Middle East (where they are also Christian minorities dispersed around) like in Syria until recently, by so-called ISIS 'rebels' - (and this is where you probably won't want to read further, as it's most unwelcome to many here, and was to me too) - ISIS which is fully supported by ISRAEL (yes and of course by the cia and other subversive elements) - yes you read that correctly! And in fact has sent many of its agents to pose and act as Isis commanders, who at least trained, if not fought secretly with Isis!– Israel has publically stated that “Isis is no threat to Israel” WHY? and yet they were almost on Israel’s doorstep! – Israel openly sent their doctors to treat wounded Isis fighters – WHY? – Use your head and word it out! It was only that GOD sent Russia along to bomb them out of Syria that any Christians survived there! – Go figure again! “And there is more” - Oops, you might now think – is he an Anti-Semite now? – What a joke – I am anti-LIES, anti-criminal, anti-deception, anti NWO, and anti-stupidity (but PRO many good things as well, like intellectual honesty, open-mindedness and tolerance of differences in others’ beliefs to a broad extent) so if that makes me anti-semitic, (A-S) then so be it, and I’m proud of it! – And it is well past the time when many others inside or outside church walls need to wake up to these things. – see more if you dare to open your mind to new truth here: Home | Why do You Claim to be a Seeker or Proclaimer of the Truth, and Yet … ?! ... and btw, Another modern-Israeli - they're also very good (bad) at organ harvesting! - https://mx22.wordpress.com/2009/12/03/25000-ukrainian-children-organs-havested-in-israel/
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Linda70
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Unsaved Israeli Jews (as well as unsaved Jews all over the world) have been persecuted (and are still being persecuted) by "professing" (not born again) Christians. Most Jews believe that all Gentiles are Christians. Therefore they associate this persecution with the "professing" church and Gentiles who "profess" Christ and attend these churches. This persecution of the Jews continues to grow as we get closer to the second coming of Christ.
The song in the following video explains the sentiment of unsaved Jews towards "professing" Christians (Gentiles in particular):
[video=youtube;Gg69nxfcX5M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg69nxfcX5M[/video]
The song in the following video explains the sentiment of unsaved Jews towards "professing" Christians (Gentiles in particular):
[video=youtube;Gg69nxfcX5M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg69nxfcX5M[/video]
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robertmichaels
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Indeed (Amen to that) - may GOD have mercy on us all! - Especially if we don't learn the lessons we need to learn from history, and especially from the 20th-21st century - "Know (get to know) your enemy" but don't (un)necessarily hate him!
- and especially if we don't learn the tricks of those who claim to be the only victims worth remembering, we will become their victims instead! - and by that time, it will be too late to discuss anything on an internet forum anyway! ...
- and especially if we don't learn the tricks of those who claim to be the only victims worth remembering, we will become their victims instead! - and by that time, it will be too late to discuss anything on an internet forum anyway! ...
If this is all true, and I tend to believe it is, if only because of the tendency of human nature, it doesn't surprise me nor make me think less of the Jews. The whole world operates like this. Just about any country with any power and influence does. So does America. Maybe not in deed for deed, but maybe so, but even if not, the underlying motivation and principal is the same.
All it means it that we are all in the same pig pen together, pork being prohibited or not.
I abhor lies and schemes and manipulations as much as the next guy, I don't have a problem with you putting this info out there. It just doesn't make the Jews any worse then anyone else. It doesn't make them better though, either, as far as morality goes.
The best and probably the most proper response for anyone who lives in Israel is to just say it may be so, we don't condone all the things our politicians are doing, are not aware of them, we need to change some things, and are doing the best we can. That the Jews who spit on others are a small minority and need this needs to be put to a stop.
I would respect anyone who takes that stance.
If someone tries to deny certain truths, or attempts to give a explanation and excuse inexcusable behavior, then they lose me.
Always it comes back to the same thing. Its universal and timeless. Humble yourself, don't try and take the speck out of your brothers eye while you have a plank, repent, pray, and love.
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robertmichaels
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Ok, America sure has committed a number if HR abuses in recent decades, but it never went as far as actually crucifying its 'enemies' publically, did it?! - unlike the Turks stirred up by disenfranchised Donmeh JEWS who did these types of atrocities back then, and many times since! - Why such a silence about the obscene GENOCIDE of 1,500,000 (+) ARMENIAN Christians also starting from 1916, and perpetrated by the same types (?)
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robertmichaels
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''During the medieval period, Rabbis and radicals used to refer to Christendom in some of their writings as “Esau,” or “Edom,” or even “Amalek.” These ideas seemed to have been preserved in the works of Rashi, Don Isaac Abrabanel, and R. Abraam Ha-Yarhi.[6] For many of those writers, “God would remain restless until Esau (which for medieval Jews meant Christendom), rather than merely Amalek, was utterly defeated and destroyed.”[7]
Misapplying the Old Testament to Christendom or Esau, Maimonides also declared,
“We are commanded to remember what Amalek did to us in attacking us unprovoked [and to hate him always]. We are to speak of this at all times, and to arouse the people to make war upon him and bid them to hate him, and that hatred of him be not weakened or lessened with the passage of time.”[8]
The Jews of Spain, Babylon, and Southern France during the Middle Ages viewed “Edom” as Christendom, while the Ashkenazim viewed it as Rome.[9]
This tendency is found in a prayer (the Kaddish prayer) that was usually recited in the synagogue, which reads,
“And thus we pray yitgadal ve-yitkadash, meaning: Let it be the will of He through whose word the world was created that He redeem us from among the nations and destroy the memory of Amalek and His name will be hallowed to be complete.”[10]
Rashi’s students picked up where he left off and announced that God “swore by His right hand and by His throne that His name would not be complete…until He avenged Himself against Amalek.”[11] Noted Jewish scholar Elliott Horowitz of Bar-Illan University, Israel, made the case that this teaching “made its way southwest to the Jewish communities of Provence and Christian Spain, who also saw themselves living among the descendants of Esau.”[12] Horowitz continues,
“In the fourteenth century two influential Spanish authors, R. David Abudarham and R. Jacob b. Asher, included similar interpretations of the Kaddish in their works…By stressing Amalek’s ancestry, Abudarham, like R. Abraham ha-Yarhi before him, evidently sought to signal to his co-religionists that the Kaddish should be seen (and experienced) as part of the cosmic struggle between their God and the evil empire of Esau/Edom.
“After the ‘Amalek-oriented’ interpretation of the Kaddish spread from Franco-Germany to the Hispano-Provencal world, there were thousands of Jews across late medieval Europe who prayed several times daily for God to avenge Himself against the archenemy whose continued existence kept His name sundered—and thus painfully postponed their own redemption.”[13]
Israel Jacob Yuval, another Jewish scholar, provides similar historical accounts for the heated tensions between Christendom and the implications of Rabbinic literature in the Middle Ages in his study Two Nations in Your Womb.
After sifting through many historical and Rabbinic accounts, Yuval finds that “The desire for vengeance may also be found in Eleazar Ha-Kallir’s lamentations for Tish b’Av. He asks that the evil of the Gentiles be revealed, so that God may take vengeance on Edom. In a recently published siluq for Tisha b’Av by Ha-Kallir, the editor noted ‘a veritable outburst of curse and hatred’ against the Christians.”[14]
As a supplement to this vengeance, a unique ritual of cursing non-Jews was quite “widespread in Ashkenaz during the Middle Ages,” most specifically against Christians.[15] As Yuval writes,
“Birkat ha-Minim (Malediction Against the Heretics) was well-known, and its origin may perhaps be traced back to the curses of the Judaean Sect against those who did not abide by the laws of the sect.”[16]
The prayer says in part that “the community will gather and curse all those ‘who veer right or left from the Torah.’”[17] Jewish scholar Ruth Langer declares the same thing. She goes so far as to say that “every single European Jewish community” in the Middle Ages “adopts the basic form” of the “birkat haminim,” which is “fully a curse of Christians.”[18] In many countries this was done explicitly, where in many cases it became a cultural phenomenon among the Jews.[19] Other curses
“are attributed to Rabbi Kalonymus the Elder and include sharp condemnations of and curses against the Gentiles and a plea to God to bring destruction upon them. Surprisingly, historical scholarship, which openly discusses all aspects of anti-Jewish hatred, has passed over these poems [which specifically discuss the curses against Christians and Gentiles] in almost total silence.
“These are texts that demonstrate the abyss of hostility and hatred felt by medieval Jews toward Christians. And we have here not only hatred, but an appeal to God to kill indiscriminately and ruthlessly, alongside a vivid description of the anticipated horrors to be brought down upon the Gentiles.
“These pleas are formulated in a series of verbs—‘swallow them, shoot them, lop them off, make them bleed, crush them, strike them, curse them, and ban them…destroy them, kill them, smite them…abandon them, parch them.”[20]
For Daniel Goldschmidt and others, all of this is a reaction to Jewish persecution![21]Yuval, in response, argues that these curses not only predate anti-Jewish reactions, but were widespread among rabbis, going all the way back to the tenth century.[22]
Yuval concludes,
“These and similar liturgical poems were used by those who sought vengeance as having active messianic significance and should not be seen solely as a spontaneous emotional response. We are dealing here with a comprehensive religious ideology that sees vengeance as a central component in its messianic doctrine.”[23]
This hostility toward Christians and Gentiles is indeed “part of an entire messianic teaching,” spread from many rabbis in the Middle Ages.[24]
So, it is not coincidence that Bryan Singer is now resurrecting the old conflict in his films in an indirect way. In fact, when his Usual Suspects film came out in 1995, Singer admitted to Charlie Rose that he does use films “to manipulate people, not only textually but emotionally.” Singer can fool some people, but he cannot fool us all. We are not ignorant of his devices." see source:
Elijah Wood: Hollywood Is Infested with Pedophiles and Vipers | Veterans Today
Misapplying the Old Testament to Christendom or Esau, Maimonides also declared,
“We are commanded to remember what Amalek did to us in attacking us unprovoked [and to hate him always]. We are to speak of this at all times, and to arouse the people to make war upon him and bid them to hate him, and that hatred of him be not weakened or lessened with the passage of time.”[8]
The Jews of Spain, Babylon, and Southern France during the Middle Ages viewed “Edom” as Christendom, while the Ashkenazim viewed it as Rome.[9]
This tendency is found in a prayer (the Kaddish prayer) that was usually recited in the synagogue, which reads,
“And thus we pray yitgadal ve-yitkadash, meaning: Let it be the will of He through whose word the world was created that He redeem us from among the nations and destroy the memory of Amalek and His name will be hallowed to be complete.”[10]
Rashi’s students picked up where he left off and announced that God “swore by His right hand and by His throne that His name would not be complete…until He avenged Himself against Amalek.”[11] Noted Jewish scholar Elliott Horowitz of Bar-Illan University, Israel, made the case that this teaching “made its way southwest to the Jewish communities of Provence and Christian Spain, who also saw themselves living among the descendants of Esau.”[12] Horowitz continues,
“In the fourteenth century two influential Spanish authors, R. David Abudarham and R. Jacob b. Asher, included similar interpretations of the Kaddish in their works…By stressing Amalek’s ancestry, Abudarham, like R. Abraham ha-Yarhi before him, evidently sought to signal to his co-religionists that the Kaddish should be seen (and experienced) as part of the cosmic struggle between their God and the evil empire of Esau/Edom.
“After the ‘Amalek-oriented’ interpretation of the Kaddish spread from Franco-Germany to the Hispano-Provencal world, there were thousands of Jews across late medieval Europe who prayed several times daily for God to avenge Himself against the archenemy whose continued existence kept His name sundered—and thus painfully postponed their own redemption.”[13]
Israel Jacob Yuval, another Jewish scholar, provides similar historical accounts for the heated tensions between Christendom and the implications of Rabbinic literature in the Middle Ages in his study Two Nations in Your Womb.
After sifting through many historical and Rabbinic accounts, Yuval finds that “The desire for vengeance may also be found in Eleazar Ha-Kallir’s lamentations for Tish b’Av. He asks that the evil of the Gentiles be revealed, so that God may take vengeance on Edom. In a recently published siluq for Tisha b’Av by Ha-Kallir, the editor noted ‘a veritable outburst of curse and hatred’ against the Christians.”[14]
As a supplement to this vengeance, a unique ritual of cursing non-Jews was quite “widespread in Ashkenaz during the Middle Ages,” most specifically against Christians.[15] As Yuval writes,
“Birkat ha-Minim (Malediction Against the Heretics) was well-known, and its origin may perhaps be traced back to the curses of the Judaean Sect against those who did not abide by the laws of the sect.”[16]
The prayer says in part that “the community will gather and curse all those ‘who veer right or left from the Torah.’”[17] Jewish scholar Ruth Langer declares the same thing. She goes so far as to say that “every single European Jewish community” in the Middle Ages “adopts the basic form” of the “birkat haminim,” which is “fully a curse of Christians.”[18] In many countries this was done explicitly, where in many cases it became a cultural phenomenon among the Jews.[19] Other curses
“are attributed to Rabbi Kalonymus the Elder and include sharp condemnations of and curses against the Gentiles and a plea to God to bring destruction upon them. Surprisingly, historical scholarship, which openly discusses all aspects of anti-Jewish hatred, has passed over these poems [which specifically discuss the curses against Christians and Gentiles] in almost total silence.
“These are texts that demonstrate the abyss of hostility and hatred felt by medieval Jews toward Christians. And we have here not only hatred, but an appeal to God to kill indiscriminately and ruthlessly, alongside a vivid description of the anticipated horrors to be brought down upon the Gentiles.
“These pleas are formulated in a series of verbs—‘swallow them, shoot them, lop them off, make them bleed, crush them, strike them, curse them, and ban them…destroy them, kill them, smite them…abandon them, parch them.”[20]
For Daniel Goldschmidt and others, all of this is a reaction to Jewish persecution![21]Yuval, in response, argues that these curses not only predate anti-Jewish reactions, but were widespread among rabbis, going all the way back to the tenth century.[22]
Yuval concludes,
“These and similar liturgical poems were used by those who sought vengeance as having active messianic significance and should not be seen solely as a spontaneous emotional response. We are dealing here with a comprehensive religious ideology that sees vengeance as a central component in its messianic doctrine.”[23]
This hostility toward Christians and Gentiles is indeed “part of an entire messianic teaching,” spread from many rabbis in the Middle Ages.[24]
So, it is not coincidence that Bryan Singer is now resurrecting the old conflict in his films in an indirect way. In fact, when his Usual Suspects film came out in 1995, Singer admitted to Charlie Rose that he does use films “to manipulate people, not only textually but emotionally.” Singer can fool some people, but he cannot fool us all. We are not ignorant of his devices." see source:
Elijah Wood: Hollywood Is Infested with Pedophiles and Vipers | Veterans Today