Why do christian woman refuse to wear headscarf when praying?

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SomeDisciple

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Matthew 23:24 KJV
Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
Since you posted this without context; I'll gladly do so. Jesus said this to the Pharisees concerning their emphasis on tithing, while neglecting weightier matters of the law.

Considering this is not OT law being discussed, I'm not sure how this is appropriate; even if you want to apply this to the NT, I would hope you could explain who is neglecting what... but even if you did that- Jesus never told the Pharisees not to tithe, or discuss tithing- on the contrary he said not to leave it undone.
 

Mem

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I would hope you could explain who is neglecting what...
I would think that there would be a lot more eye plucking than head coverings, considering that men are more devout than women.
 

Magenta

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I would think that there would be a lot more eye plucking than head coverings, considering that men are more devout than women.
Eye plucking? Could you please explain this? .:unsure:
 

Mem

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Eye plucking? Could you please explain this? .:unsure:
All these women running around with their heads uncovered. You'd think you'd at least hear about one guy that had to pluck his eye out?
 

Magenta

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All these women running around with their heads uncovered. You'd think you'd at least hear about one guy that had to pluck his eye out?
Ah! I know it as eye gouging. Gouging out one's eye/s. Yes! Well, I can explain it. You
see, they have cut off their hands, so they are now unable to gouge out their eyes!

That is why so many of them look like clowns, also. Their noses are red from button pushing.
 

Mem

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Ah! I know it as eye gouging. Gouging out one's eye/s. Yes! Well, I can explain it. You
see, they have cut off their hands, so they are now unable to gouge out their eyes!
Aww man! this makes me wonder how many missed opportunities for V8 moments they've had also! :unsure:
 

Magenta

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Aww man! this makes me wonder how many missed opportunities for V8 moments they've had also! :unsure:
And now I must ask, what is a V8 moment? .:unsure::giggle:
 

BonnieClaire

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Yes I do too.

We always wore a hat to the “church of Christ” Sunday school.
And one day I heard two women trying to persuade a new lady not to wear a headscarf when she comes to church. (I was a child, and sad that they spoke to her like that)
she replied that
it was the normal thing to always do in church, back home.
(She was new from England.)

we cannot assume that all women who wear a headscarf is Muslim or Brethren or EB.
Because it is not so.

Actually I wear a cowboy hat, or more specifically a Hoss Hat . . .

HossHat.jpg ;)
 

ResidentAlien

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The bible is clear, cover your hair when you pray!

Why call yourself christian when not wanting to follow what bible says?
I've been in worship services where all the men were required to remove their hats, while all the women sat there with nothing on their heads and no one said a word about it. Pretty stupid.
 

Blain

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What makes you think Paul is talking about a Jewish custom? Here is how Jewish Virtual Library describes the Jewish customs...

Jewish tradition requires men to cover the head as a sign of humility before God, and women, as evidence of modesty before men, although the Bible does not explicitly command either men or women to cover the head.

And not only is what Paul describes different from Jewish custom, it is also different from Greek and Roman customs as well.

It depends on what you mean by "heartfelt"... if somebody is not familiar with this scripture, I don't think it's held against them. But if someone's attitude in prayer is "Screw your customs Lord, I don't need a headcovering... oh by the way, give me my daily bread" I don't think it's going to go well for them.

Why? Where in the scriptures does it say you should do this?

No... no, it's not ridiculous. In fact there are very, very good reasons for those things in the scriptures.
I apologize for the late reply I didn't want you to think I was ignoring you. I may have things mixed up with my understanding of Jewish tradition so that I will take back
oh sorry for the bold letters it makes it easier to see for me.

But whether head covering or not really it comes down to prayer and how one should pray so lets go to the source Jesus himself he tells us exactly in the Lords prayer

Our Father, which art in heaven,
Hallowed be thy Name.
Thy Kingdom come.
Thy will be done in earth,
As it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
As we forgive them that trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation,
But deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom,
The power, and the glory,
For ever and ever.
Amen.

Nowhere does he mention wearing anything you just speak to God. Prayer is now an open communication with God no rules or regulations Jesus broke all of that when he completed his fathers work on the cross the veil was torn when he resurrected and now we have a free and open commication and relationship with him so requiring to wear something to pray when after what Jesus did just doesn't make sense to me.

Also as for why I would not move not dare to speak or even look upon him that is what the fear of the Lord is. He is my savior my best friend the truth the way and the life but he is also my Lord and I don't take that lightly.

So for whatever reason he decided to show up and show me a taste of his Lordship. The intensity of his presence was a lot and you can feel so much in his presence the power and might that commands respect the authority he holds as king is unspeakable you can only have reverence for him you don't move your body isn't going to let you your like a small ant compared to him you instinctively show the utmost respect in that moment you don't speak unless he wants you to.

He did this not to scare me I actually was so thankful for it even as I was experiencing it but I always tell him he is my Lord and the term Lord is a heavy one not to be spoken lightly so perhaps he wanted to give me a taste of the Lord I serve
 

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How do you say "it can not be any more clearer"? You took a passage that asks the question "is it comely for a woman to pray unto god uncovered?" and then said the custom in question was "women wearing head coverings". That sounds pretty backwards to me.
What is natural / normal is for people to speak with their heads uncovered.. It takes a law / tradition / custom to establish in a society that only woman need to have a cloth head covering to talk to God.. That's why it is clear to me that Paul was stating that the tradition was woman wearing head coverings.. And that it was acceptable for woman to have long hair as a covering.. God gave woman Long hair as a covering... So to God a woman with Long hair is acceptable for she has a covering He gave to her....

I don't know if i can find another angle to explain this thing in another way.. It seems clear to me simply reading the passage in context..