Why did God create in six days? Does it not have any relation to Life-affirming Design?

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Why did God create in six days rather than in, say, ten days? Many Christians think the answer has nothing to do with the universal self-evidence of life-affirming Design.

For, example, Ken Ham (1987) reasons,

'God is an infinite being. He has infinite power, infinite knowledge, infinite wisdom. Obviously, [therefore,] God could [have created in any way imaginable]. [For example, He could have created the whole universe, the earth and all it contains[,] in no time at all. [Therefore, it seems] the question we should be asking is why did God take as long as six days? After all, six days is a peculiar period [of time in which] for [which] an infinite being could [create]. [Therefore, according to the Bible, t]he answer [to why God created in this particular time frame is that taught] in Exodus 20:11.'


Likewise Richard Fangrad and Thomas Bailey (2018):

'Why six days? Why six days? God could have created instantly. Right? He could have. Or in six seconds. Or [in] six billion years. He has the ability to create the universe in any length of time He chooses; So why did He choose six days, as the text [of Genesis 1] says? God tells us why He chose to create in six days rather than some other time frame: in Exodus 20, verse 11, “For in six days the Lord made heaven and Earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day.” He did it as a pattern for the [human] workweek. A [human] week of seven days is patterned after God['s] creating for six days and resting for one.'

But is this logic valid? No, for it assumes, in effect, that a quantity of six things stood out to God as the right number of days for Him to chose in the first place. It does not answer why that is, but takes the mere form of an answer: 'The reason why God created chose to create in six days, rather than in some other measure of time, or in no time, is because God wants us to have an example to follow.'

Our having an example to follow does not begin to explain why the example was six days instead of, say, ten days. This is not just a weak argument, it logically invalid. It not only presupposes its own conclusion, its logic fails to logically compel that conclusion.

It is just like asking 'Why did dad paint the family car red rather than some other color?' and be told that dad wanted to give us an example to follow as to the color he wants us to paint all our painting cars. 'Why not blue?' we ask. Imagine if some people answer, 'Because blue is not the kind of a color that can serve as an example to follow'. This is utter nonsense as an 'answer'. It grants a complex issue, and puts a 'because' link to another complex idea, the latter idea having been assumed to be the case.

That latter idea is that this kind of answer is assumed to be the answer that God gives to the issue. But that assumption is based on an extremely poor sense of the issue, namely that, since God is all-powerful, the only sense there is to the issue is that, all else being equal of Divine Design evidence, God could just as well have created in ten days as in six days. But that in itself shows that the supposed answer is invalid, since the answer does not explain why God chose six days instead of, say, ten days.

The hidden assumption is that the reason God chose six days in which to create instead of, say, ten days is because He Himself was following the example of the six day human workweek.

But if we simply allow that God designed biology and ecology to function on natural cycles of seven (seven days, seven waves, seven years, etc.) then it only makes sense that He would have created everything in a seven-natural-something period of time. Further, if only we allow to the issue our own recognition of irreducible complexity in Nature, then we shall have a rational basis not only for special creation, but for God to have created in six days rather than in either six years or six billion years. Given what we know of how creaturely life and ecology functions, either of these two latter amounts of time is far too long.

Either a year for creation or a billion years, both are nearly the same in the single most basic way. Either of them is like a man who, despite his building an engine that he has designed to cycle in terms of seconds, decides to build it very, very, very slowly.

The difference is that a life-supporting ecology is like an engine that has been designed to begin to function with the very first parts of it that are assembled. Yet this man adds more of its total parts to it in a slow-motion way that takes him years to complete. And it is a kind of 'engine' that is NOT an inanimate object, or that has a natural 'off' mode.

God did not create all of nature before turning it on. It was on from the first things He created. And the plants, for example, were created in situ, not made someplace else and then put into the ground after-the-fact.

So this 'answer' to why God chose six days is not a valid explanation to the actual question of 'Why six days and not some other amount of time?'. And it overlooks all of the most important parts of the issue, all because its advocates think they ought to be like senseless idiots in face of the fact that God is all-powerful.

The failure of this answer assumes Divine Design is just arbitrary numbers with no actual design, so that the universal self-evidence of Divine Design can just as well have been any which way. But we breathe, in and out, in a period of seconds, which ought to show us something of just how dependent we are, for our very lives, on natural regular cycles.


Of course, God wants us to have an example to follow. But that fact does not explain why God created in one particular amount of time over any other. It explains only why He did not create in a single, duration-less, Genie-like 'Pop!'.

For, by virtue of thinking the above 'answer' is logically valid, we are logically allowing, contrary to our intentions, that it is *invalid*. For, had God opted to create in, say, ten days and rest on the eleventh day, then Exodus 20:11 would state as much, as would Genesis 1-2. He would not have commanded a six-day work week, but, instead a ten-day work week, with an eleventh day for rest.

The confound is one of conceptually reducing the issue to what little the Bible spells out specifically and directly about the specifically six-day Creation Week. Such a reduction overlooks the wonderful inter-connectivity and inter-dependency in Nature that we each experience every day, both that outside us and that within us. For example, no one denies that we have a natural need for regular rest. And few would deny that there is a natural maximum and minimum of rest we need, relative to a given unit of work.

In other words, few would deny that there is some kind of ideal ratio of work-to-rest that is built into our own biology. For those of us who believe that Nature is designed and created by God, that ratio must also be designed by God. And no one denies that there is some range beyond which the ratio is either (a) abuse or (b) one or more of laziness, trepidation, clinical depression, etc..

In fact, no one would deny that it is as much an abuse to continually prevent a person from acting as to force them to act without due natural rest. So the answer to why God created in a particular amount of time has to do with the fact that creatures need periodic, occasional, and regular rest. Surely, the answer is not one that discounts or ignores that need!

The same is true even of a given location of ecology (Lev 26:34-35). And this need does not stop there. For, as just pointed out, we believe that God designed us to need a particular measure of periodicity and duration of rest and work. Of course, when the 'sweet spot' of work-to-rest ratio is violated too much or too long in a particular case, be it to a person or to an ecology, the effect on that case is essentially a form of PTSD. And recovery from PTSD requires extended amounts of appropriate forms of rest (Leviticus 26:34-35).


So the answer becomes clearer if we imagine a limited range of options that God faced: that God had to choose between either six days or ten days. Thus, 'God begins with these two options, and has to choose between them.' But, logically, given God's power, 'either option would do for being an example for us to follow.'
 
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in some Church Father accounts, they claim that on the 6,000 year from Adam will end at the end of the the 7 year Tribulation and begin the reign of Christ's 1,000 years. they claim the 6 days will become 1 day = 1,000 years = 6,000 years.

Irenaeus, Hippolytus, and Papias all wrote according to the teachings of Apostle John the world ends at the 6,000 year mark.

Against Heresies (Book V, Chapter 28) - New Advent
https://www.newadvent.org › fathers

For the day of the Lord is as a thousand years; 2 Peter 3:8 and in six days created things were completed:
Irenaeus then reckoned that the Millennium would begin 6,000 years after the creation of the world.


V. Hippolytus And The 6000-Year Chronology in - Brill
https://brill.com › Bej.9789004191921.i-344_007.xml

V. Hippolytus And The 6000-Year Chronology


History of the Apocalypse
Papias, for example, described the Millennium as a golden age marked by miracles and ... for the 6,000 years of the world's existence:


these are just a few who believe this.
they claim this is why God created in 6 days and rested on the 7th.
and why these Church Fathers believe at the 6,000 year mark from Creation is the Second Coming of Christ and the 1,000 year reign.


there's a video that also explains it called : Who Were the Ancient Church Fathers? | Ken Johnson
 
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in some Church Father accounts, they claim that on the 6,000 year from Adam will end at the end of the the 7 year Tribulation and begin the reign of Christ's 1,000 years. they claim the 6 days will become 1 day = 1,000 years = 6,000 years.

Irenaeus, Hippolytus, and Papias all wrote according to the teachings of Apostle John the world ends at the 6,000 year mark.

Against Heresies (Book V, Chapter 28) - New Advent
https://www.newadvent.org › fathers

For the day of the Lord is as a thousand years; 2 Peter 3:8 and in six days created things were completed:
Irenaeus then reckoned that the Millennium would begin 6,000 years after the creation of the world.


V. Hippolytus And The 6000-Year Chronology in - Brill
https://brill.com › Bej.9789004191921.i-344_007.xml

V. Hippolytus And The 6000-Year Chronology


History of the Apocalypse
Papias, for example, described the Millennium as a golden age marked by miracles and ... for the 6,000 years of the world's existence:


these are just a few who believe this.
they claim this is why God created in 6 days and rested on the 7th.
and why these Church Fathers believe at the 6,000 year mark from Creation is the Second Coming of Christ and the 1,000 year reign.


there's a video that also explains it called : Who Were the Ancient Church Fathers? | Ken Johnson
Then there's thousand-year millennium, followed by the new beginning, or new heavens and earth. I've thought this myself, though I've never looked to see what others thought. It just seems to make sense.
Some say that the earth is 6,000 years old. After everything I've looked into over the past 9 years, including dry blood being found in the leg bone of a T. Rex and other dinosaurs, I think it's a possibility.
 

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His children must realize that H truly is All-Mighty. He spoke and the universe became, nothing more, nothing less.

He will always do, with no effort, whatever is necessary for Good, and always motivated by Love. He IS Love, amen.

Thanks M.
 
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Master of the universe, Yahweh-Elohim is His name!
 

JaumeJ

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A relassted fact about the Lunar Calendar of the Hebrews.

It was based on the begtinning of creation, and dated by the genealogies provided in the Word..

Due to the law forbidding adding to and taking from the Word, the Hebrew scholarswere obliged to leave out some of the genealogies because they were no provided with the ages associated with them.

Because of this restriction, the actual Lunar year is given as 5782, however with the missing data we are much closer to the year, 6,000, than is realized by the Hebrew Lunar Calendar, praise God, amen.

I believe all who understand will be well awar3e when we have surpasted the 5,993rd year.... WATCH!
 
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Then there's thousand-year millennium, followed by the new beginning, or new heavens and earth. I've thought this myself, though I've never looked to see what others thought. It just seems to make sense.
Some say that the earth is 6,000 years old. After everything I've looked into over the past 9 years, including dry blood being found in the leg bone of a T. Rex and other dinosaurs, I think it's a possibility.
same here especially since both Papias and irenaeus (Polycarp) claims the Apostle John taught the Second Coming of Christ happens at the 6,000 year mark to begin His 1,000 year reign.
 
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same here especially since both Papias and irenaeus (Polycarp) claims the Apostle John taught the Second Coming of Christ happens at the 6,000 year mark to begin His 1,000 year reign.
We are close!
 
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Why did God create in six days rather than in, say, ten days? Many Christians think the answer has nothing to do with the universal self-evidence of life-affirming Design.

For, example, Ken Ham (1987) reasons,

'God is an infinite being. He has infinite power, infinite knowledge, infinite wisdom. Obviously, [therefore,] God could [have created in any way imaginable]. [For example, He could have created the whole universe, the earth and all it contains[,] in no time at all. [Therefore, it seems] the question we should be asking is why did God take as long as six days? After all, six days is a peculiar period [of time in which] for [which] an infinite being could [create]. [Therefore, according to the Bible, t]he answer [to why God created in this particular time frame is that taught] in Exodus 20:11.'

Likewise Richard Fangrad and Thomas Bailey (2018):

'Why six days? Why six days? God could have created instantly. Right? He could have. Or in six seconds. Or [in] six billion years. He has the ability to create the universe in any length of time He chooses; So why did He choose six days, as the text [of Genesis 1] says? God tells us why He chose to create in six days rather than some other time frame: in Exodus 20, verse 11, “For in six days the Lord made heaven and Earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day.” He did it as a pattern for the [human] workweek. A [human] week of seven days is patterned after God['s] creating for six days and resting for one.'

But is this logic valid? No, for it assumes, in effect, that a quantity of six things stood out to God as the right number of days for Him to chose in the first place. It does not answer why that is, but takes the mere form of an answer: 'The reason why God created chose to create in six days, rather than in some other measure of time, or in no time, is because God wants us to have an example to follow.'

Our having an example to follow does not begin to explain why the example was six days instead of, say, ten days. This is not just a weak argument, it logically invalid. It not only presupposes its own conclusion, its logic fails to logically compel that conclusion.

It is just like asking 'Why did dad paint the family car red rather than some other color?' and be told that dad wanted to give us an example to follow as to the color he wants us to paint all our painting cars. 'Why not blue?' we ask. Imagine if some people answer, 'Because blue is not the kind of a color that can serve as an example to follow'. This is utter nonsense as an 'answer'. It grants a complex issue, and puts a 'because' link to another complex idea, the latter idea having been assumed to be the case.

That latter idea is that this kind of answer is assumed to be the answer that God gives to the issue. But that assumption is based on an extremely poor sense of the issue, namely that, since God is all-powerful, the only sense there is to the issue is that, all else being equal of Divine Design evidence, God could just as well have created in ten days as in six days. But that in itself shows that the supposed answer is invalid, since the answer does not explain why God chose six days instead of, say, ten days.

The hidden assumption is that the reason God chose six days in which to create instead of, say, ten days is because He Himself was following the example of the six day human workweek.

But if we simply allow that God designed biology and ecology to function on natural cycles of seven (seven days, seven waves, seven years, etc.) then it only makes sense that He would have created everything in a seven-natural-something period of time. Further, if only we allow to the issue our own recognition of irreducible complexity in Nature, then we shall have a rational basis not only for special creation, but for God to have created in six days rather than in either six years or six billion years. Given what we know of how creaturely life and ecology functions, either of these two latter amounts of time is far too long.

Either a year for creation or a billion years, both are nearly the same in the single most basic way. Either of them is like a man who, despite his building an engine that he has designed to cycle in terms of seconds, decides to build it very, very, very slowly.

The difference is that a life-supporting ecology is like an engine that has been designed to begin to function with the very first parts of it that are assembled. Yet this man adds more of its total parts to it in a slow-motion way that takes him years to complete. And it is a kind of 'engine' that is NOT an inanimate object, or that has a natural 'off' mode.

God did not create all of nature before turning it on. It was on from the first things He created. And the plants, for example, were created in situ, not made someplace else and then put into the ground after-the-fact.

So this 'answer' to why God chose six days is not a valid explanation to the actual question of 'Why six days and not some other amount of time?'. And it overlooks all of the most important parts of the issue, all because its advocates think they ought to be like senseless idiots in face of the fact that God is all-powerful.

The failure of this answer assumes Divine Design is just arbitrary numbers with no actual design, so that the universal self-evidence of Divine Design can just as well have been any which way. But we breathe, in and out, in a period of seconds, which ought to show us something of just how dependent we are, for our very lives, on natural regular cycles.


Of course, God wants us to have an example to follow. But that fact does not explain why God created in one particular amount of time over any other. It explains only why He did not create in a single, duration-less, Genie-like 'Pop!'.

For, by virtue of thinking the above 'answer' is logically valid, we are logically allowing, contrary to our intentions, that it is *invalid*. For, had God opted to create in, say, ten days and rest on the eleventh day, then Exodus 20:11 would state as much, as would Genesis 1-2. He would not have commanded a six-day work week, but, instead a ten-day work week, with an eleventh day for rest.

The confound is one of conceptually reducing the issue to what little the Bible spells out specifically and directly about the specifically six-day Creation Week. Such a reduction overlooks the wonderful inter-connectivity and inter-dependency in Nature that we each experience every day, both that outside us and that within us. For example, no one denies that we have a natural need for regular rest. And few would deny that there is a natural maximum and minimum of rest we need, relative to a given unit of work.

In other words, few would deny that there is some kind of ideal ratio of work-to-rest that is built into our own biology. For those of us who believe that Nature is designed and created by God, that ratio must also be designed by God. And no one denies that there is some range beyond which the ratio is either (a) abuse or (b) one or more of laziness, trepidation, clinical depression, etc..

In fact, no one would deny that it is as much an abuse to continually prevent a person from acting as to force them to act without due natural rest. So the answer to why God created in a particular amount of time has to do with the fact that creatures need periodic, occasional, and regular rest. Surely, the answer is not one that discounts or ignores that need!

The same is true even of a given location of ecology (Lev 26:34-35). And this need does not stop there. For, as just pointed out, we believe that God designed us to need a particular measure of periodicity and duration of rest and work. Of course, when the 'sweet spot' of work-to-rest ratio is violated too much or too long in a particular case, be it to a person or to an ecology, the effect on that case is essentially a form of PTSD. And recovery from PTSD requires extended amounts of appropriate forms of rest (Leviticus 26:34-35).


So the answer becomes clearer if we imagine a limited range of options that God faced: that God had to choose between either six days or ten days. Thus, 'God begins with these two options, and has to choose between them.' But, logically, given God's power, 'either option would do for being an example for us to follow.'
You don’t seemed to have factored in God’s sovereignty into this essay. Once you factor in the fact that God does what He wants then it will make more sense.

The pattern God decided to give people is due to His reasons, whatever those reasons may be. That’s the only reason He needs since He answers to no one.
 

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But of that day, and of that hour, no man knows, only the Father Eternal...see Isaiah 9:6
 

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Why did God create in six days rather than in, say, ten days? Many Christians think the answer has nothing to do with the universal self-evidence of life-affirming Design.

For, example, Ken Ham (1987) reasons,

'God is an infinite being. He has infinite power, infinite knowledge, infinite wisdom. Obviously, [therefore,] God could [have created in any way imaginable]. [For example, He could have created the whole universe, the earth and all it contains[,] in no time at all. [Therefore, it seems] the question we should be asking is why did God take as long as six days? After all, six days is a peculiar period [of time in which] for [which] an infinite being could [create]. [Therefore, according to the Bible, t]he answer [to why God created in this particular time frame is that taught] in Exodus 20:11.'

Likewise Richard Fangrad and Thomas Bailey (2018):

'Why six days? Why six days? God could have created instantly. Right? He could have. Or in six seconds. Or [in] six billion years. He has the ability to create the universe in any length of time He chooses; So why did He choose six days, as the text [of Genesis 1] says? God tells us why He chose to create in six days rather than some other time frame: in Exodus 20, verse 11, “For in six days the Lord made heaven and Earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day.” He did it as a pattern for the [human] workweek. A [human] week of seven days is patterned after God['s] creating for six days and resting for one.'

But is this logic valid? No, for it assumes, in effect, that a quantity of six things stood out to God as the right number of days for Him to chose in the first place. It does not answer why that is, but takes the mere form of an answer: 'The reason why God created chose to create in six days, rather than in some other measure of time, or in no time, is because God wants us to have an example to follow.'

Our having an example to follow does not begin to explain why the example was six days instead of, say, ten days. This is not just a weak argument, it logically invalid. It not only presupposes its own conclusion, its logic fails to logically compel that conclusion.

It is just like asking 'Why did dad paint the family car red rather than some other color?' and be told that dad wanted to give us an example to follow as to the color he wants us to paint all our painting cars. 'Why not blue?' we ask. Imagine if some people answer, 'Because blue is not the kind of a color that can serve as an example to follow'. This is utter nonsense as an 'answer'. It grants a complex issue, and puts a 'because' link to another complex idea, the latter idea having been assumed to be the case.

That latter idea is that this kind of answer is assumed to be the answer that God gives to the issue. But that assumption is based on an extremely poor sense of the issue, namely that, since God is all-powerful, the only sense there is to the issue is that, all else being equal of Divine Design evidence, God could just as well have created in ten days as in six days. But that in itself shows that the supposed answer is invalid, since the answer does not explain why God chose six days instead of, say, ten days.

The hidden assumption is that the reason God chose six days in which to create instead of, say, ten days is because He Himself was following the example of the six day human workweek.

But if we simply allow that God designed biology and ecology to function on natural cycles of seven (seven days, seven waves, seven years, etc.) then it only makes sense that He would have created everything in a seven-natural-something period of time. Further, if only we allow to the issue our own recognition of irreducible complexity in Nature, then we shall have a rational basis not only for special creation, but for God to have created in six days rather than in either six years or six billion years. Given what we know of how creaturely life and ecology functions, either of these two latter amounts of time is far too long.

Either a year for creation or a billion years, both are nearly the same in the single most basic way. Either of them is like a man who, despite his building an engine that he has designed to cycle in terms of seconds, decides to build it very, very, very slowly.

The difference is that a life-supporting ecology is like an engine that has been designed to begin to function with the very first parts of it that are assembled. Yet this man adds more of its total parts to it in a slow-motion way that takes him years to complete. And it is a kind of 'engine' that is NOT an inanimate object, or that has a natural 'off' mode.

God did not create all of nature before turning it on. It was on from the first things He created. And the plants, for example, were created in situ, not made someplace else and then put into the ground after-the-fact.

So this 'answer' to why God chose six days is not a valid explanation to the actual question of 'Why six days and not some other amount of time?'. And it overlooks all of the most important parts of the issue, all because its advocates think they ought to be like senseless idiots in face of the fact that God is all-powerful.

The failure of this answer assumes Divine Design is just arbitrary numbers with no actual design, so that the universal self-evidence of Divine Design can just as well have been any which way. But we breathe, in and out, in a period of seconds, which ought to show us something of just how dependent we are, for our very lives, on natural regular cycles.


Of course, God wants us to have an example to follow. But that fact does not explain why God created in one particular amount of time over any other. It explains only why He did not create in a single, duration-less, Genie-like 'Pop!'.

For, by virtue of thinking the above 'answer' is logically valid, we are logically allowing, contrary to our intentions, that it is *invalid*. For, had God opted to create in, say, ten days and rest on the eleventh day, then Exodus 20:11 would state as much, as would Genesis 1-2. He would not have commanded a six-day work week, but, instead a ten-day work week, with an eleventh day for rest.

The confound is one of conceptually reducing the issue to what little the Bible spells out specifically and directly about the specifically six-day Creation Week. Such a reduction overlooks the wonderful inter-connectivity and inter-dependency in Nature that we each experience every day, both that outside us and that within us. For example, no one denies that we have a natural need for regular rest. And few would deny that there is a natural maximum and minimum of rest we need, relative to a given unit of work.

In other words, few would deny that there is some kind of ideal ratio of work-to-rest that is built into our own biology. For those of us who believe that Nature is designed and created by God, that ratio must also be designed by God. And no one denies that there is some range beyond which the ratio is either (a) abuse or (b) one or more of laziness, trepidation, clinical depression, etc..

In fact, no one would deny that it is as much an abuse to continually prevent a person from acting as to force them to act without due natural rest. So the answer to why God created in a particular amount of time has to do with the fact that creatures need periodic, occasional, and regular rest. Surely, the answer is not one that discounts or ignores that need!

The same is true even of a given location of ecology (Lev 26:34-35). And this need does not stop there. For, as just pointed out, we believe that God designed us to need a particular measure of periodicity and duration of rest and work. Of course, when the 'sweet spot' of work-to-rest ratio is violated too much or too long in a particular case, be it to a person or to an ecology, the effect on that case is essentially a form of PTSD. And recovery from PTSD requires extended amounts of appropriate forms of rest (Leviticus 26:34-35).


So the answer becomes clearer if we imagine a limited range of options that God faced: that God had to choose between either six days or ten days. Thus, 'God begins with these two options, and has to choose between them.' But, logically, given God's power, 'either option would do for being an example for us to follow.'
There are many mysteries that God has chosen not to explain. This is one of them.
 

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So the answer becomes clearer if we imagine a limited range of options that God faced: that God had to choose between either six days or ten days.
You don’t seemed to have factored in God’s sovereignty into this essay. Once you factor in the fact that God does what He wants then it will make more sense.

The pattern God decided to give people is due to His reasons, whatever those reasons may be. That’s the only reason He needs since He answers to no one.

seeing that God is omniscient & omnipotent, what He chose to do is the only possible thing He could do: that which is perfect.
 
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You don’t seemed to have factored in God’s sovereignty into this essay. Once you factor in the fact that God does what He wants then it will make more sense.

The pattern God decided to give people is due to His reasons, whatever those reasons may be. That’s the only reason He needs since He answers to no one.
The Bible implicitly affirms or assumes many things that it does not explicitly affirm. In other words, the Bible is not a Complete Idiots Guide to everything it teaches, affirms, or presupposes. But one thing it does outright affirm is that the whole Creation bears universal self-evidence of Divine, life-centric Design. In my OP I simply made a case for the idea that the ecology, and biology, is designed to function on cycles of seven, such as seven days and seven years.

Bear Grylls, in one of his episodes of Man Vs. Wild (In one of the first four seasons of the show), mentions that the waves on the ocean shore come in cycles of seven waves: a progressive increase in size of the waves, until the seventh wave is the largest, and then the cycle repeats.

I have never confirmed this myself, as I have not been able to get to the ocean since then. I am hoping someone who goes there often, or who lives near it, can tell me if this is true or not.

Because if it is true that the waves on the ocean shore come in sets of seven progressively larger waves, then what I have been encountering from some Christians regarding the seven-day week is false. Specifically, some Christians claim that the seven-day week has no basis in Nature. CMI has multiple articles that state essentially that, the most recent one in the last few months (a direct-to-webpage article by Jim Hughes, entitled, 'The Seven-Day Week Where did the seven-day week come from?').
 
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seeing that God is omniscient & omnipotent, what He chose to do is the only possible thing He could do: that which is perfect.
Prefection is relational, not a monadic 'brute fact' The Bible implicitly affirms or assumes many things that it does not explicitly affirm. In other words, the Bible is not a Complete Idiots Guide to everything it teaches, affirms, or presupposes. But one thing it does outright affirm is that the whole Creation bears universal self-evidence of Divine, life-centric Design. In my OP I simply made a case for the idea that the ecology, and biology, is designed to function on cycles of seven, such as seven days and seven years.

Bear Grylls, in one of his episodes of Man Vs. Wild (In one of the first four seasons of the show), mentions that the waves on the ocean shore come in cycles of seven waves: a progressive increase in size of the waves, until the seventh wave is the largest, and then the cycle repeats.

I have never confirmed this myself, as I have not been able to get to the ocean since then. I am hoping someone who goes there often, or who lives near it, can tell me if this is true or not.

Because if it is true that the waves on the ocean shore come in sets of seven progressively larger waves, then what I have been encountering from some Christians regarding the seven-day week is false. Specifically, some Christians claim that the seven-day week has no basis in Nature. CMI has multiple articles that state essentially that, the most recent one in the last few months (a direct-to-webpage article by Jim Hughes, entitled, 'The Seven-Day Week Where did the seven-day week come from?').
 

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A microcosm of the ages?

6 days + 1 day rest
6000 years + 1000 year millennium

EDIT: Also just in case anyone wants to try and push evolution... no, "day" does not mean "period of time", it's a 24 hour period. Yes, light existed before the sun did. :cautious:
 
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A microcosm of the ages?

6 days + 1 day rest
6000 years + 1000 year millennium

EDIT: Also just in case anyone wants to try and push evolution... no, "day" does not mean "period of time", it's a 24 hour period. Yes, light existed before the sun did. :cautious:
Why did God create in six days? Does it not have any relation to Life-affirming Design?