Who Is Your Fantasy Self, and How Much Time, Money, and Energy Do You Put Into Being Someone You May Never Be?

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OutWrite Trouble
May 23, 2009
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Hey Everyone,

This is an update of a thread I wrote in 2018, as I have been asking myself this very question.

I go in phases where I try to apply minimalism to my life, and a videos I listened to made a very interesting (and slightly heart-wrenching) point. The host of asked, "Who is your fantasy self, and how many resources are you wasting on a life you don't actually live?"

Examples are things like: the person who thinks they'd like to be a great cook but actually hates cooking, yet, they keeps collecting a mountain of cookbooks they'll never use; the woman who thinks she's the social butterfly and keeps buying expensive outfits--for outings that don't even exist in her life; the man who wants to be a successful businessman, buying expensive cars and clothes to present a personal image that is far beyond his actual salary; the parents who believe their child is going to be the next pro athlete, music prodigy, or some other sort of standout and spending all the family's time and resources on that one child, leaving their others feeling left out.

Once upon a time, I had a Fantasy Self. I had just gotten married, and I had envisioned myself as a Homemaker and a Mother. I started to collect small things, such as baby bottles, bibs, and an occasional stuffed animal. When my husband filed for divorce and left, it was very hard to give up those things because I saw it as giving up my own self, or at least, The Self I Wanted to Be.

Another time, I had yet another Fantasy Self in which I wanted to be someone who was constantly learning about art and culture while interacting with active members of those communities, because I like talking to people about the talents God has given them and how they use them to reach other people. However, in just a short time, I started to realize just how much money, time, and resources a life like that can require (it doesn't have to be expensive, of course, but I lived in an area where it was), and I also had to let that part of me go.

These days, I think I've developed more of a cynical, albeit more realistic, attitude. I no longer feed or nurture a Fantasy Self, Life, or Future, but rather, and try to be thankful for what I have, rather than what I think I could be. Admittedly, it feels like something is missing, because I believe that God gave us the ability to dream.

In contrast, I have two friends who, at one point, could have been said to have have Fantasy Selves, all revolving around owning their own businesses. Even though it took many years (and challenges), their Fantasy Selves eventually became their Realities, and I'm always awestruck by all their hard work.

This got me thinking: what is the difference between a fantasy self that is unrealistic, and then projecting an optimistic future self that one might actually obtain?

What do you think?

* Who is your Fantasy Self, or The Self You'd Like to Be?

* In your opinion, what is the difference between a Fantasy Self that may be a waste of money and resources, and a Self You'd Like to Be that might actually become a reality? For instance, the person with a perfectly clean house vs. the person who does enough to stay sanitary?

* How do you know when a version of your Projected Self should be nurtured and fed, or just left behind as you move on?

*If you have a friend, family member, or child who is trying to feed a reality in the making (or just a dream), how do you know when to support them, or when to tell them to give up and keep going?

* If you've given up a fantasy self, how do you feel? For example, what if you bought clothes for when you lose 20 pounds, but that never happened. If you accept that you're trying to work at just eating better and exercising more, how does that make you feel? Less anxious? More content? Or mourning a goal you keep criticizing yourself for never reaching?

* Do we need a bit of a fantasy, or idealized self in order to stay motivated? (If we want to be The Person Who Reads The Bible Every Day, will we stop trying if we don't keep thinking about who we want to be?)


Thank you for taking the time to read this and to share!

This has been something at the forefront of my mind lately, and I will be eager to read about other people's experiences and perspectives.
 
I'd really like to talk about mine now, but I'm urged to keep them secrets.
However I can say as far as my hopes on earth goes, I do relate to you in your anticipation to have a family.
I was really eager to marry someone whos soul was like my own, and right all the wrongs that happened with my upbringing through the family I would have. It's a dream I've had for longer than I can remember the start of, but after a few waves of growing strongly attatched to a woman, then suddenly abandoned by them, my heart's become a little too weak to risk another attempt.
 
I'd really like to talk about mine now, but I'm urged to keep them secrets.
However I can say as far as my hopes on earth goes, I do relate to you in your anticipation to have a family.
I was really eager to marry someone whos soul was like my own, and right all the wrongs that happened with my upbringing through the family I would have. It's a dream I've had for longer than I can remember the start of, but after a few waves of growing strongly attatched to a woman, then suddenly abandoned by them, my heart's become a little too weak to risk another attempt.


I am very sorry this happened to you. :cry:

Those cuts run deep.

May God comfort you as He keeps leading you on. 💖🙏🏼🌹
 
I am very sorry this happened to you. :cry:

Those cuts run deep.

May God comfort you as He keeps leading you on. 💖🙏🏼🌹
Don't feel too sorry for me.
I deserve it more than I give credit for.
I myself have taken form others what wasn't my right to.


But still, I'm curious about other people's fantasy selves... unless God's also telling everyone else to keep it secret.
My fantasies used to be great, and I tore them down because they felt too proud to have. But maybe they're not proud after all, if God gives similar ones to others.
 
But still, I'm curious about other people's fantasy selves... unless God's also telling everyone else to keep it secret. My fantasies used to be great, and I tore them down because they felt too proud to have. But maybe they're not proud after all, if God gives similar ones to others.

You bring up an excellent point, @Ceph.

Do you feel God told you to tear down your fantasies, or did He tear them down?

You have me wondering how much of our daydreams and "little glimpses" might actually be from God if we just listen, obey, and put in the work.

I've heard the story of David and Goliath dozens of times, but someone once shed new light on it when they emphasized that David's older brother scoffed at David when he said, "Who is this uncircumcised heathen to talk to God's people this way?"

David's brother basically told him, "Who do you think you are little boy, you and the few piddly little sheep you look after?"

I don't know if God was setting David's heart in motion for becoming king right then and there, but David had experienced God's help in fighting off bears and lions from his father's flocks. He had seen God's goodness and power first hand, and that was good enough for him to take on a 9-foot Philistine giant with a slingshot and 5 smooth stones without hesitation. And we all know what happened.

How much of our dreams are our own hearts, and how much is it of God trying to whisper possibilities to us?

But David also didn't know all the trouble that would come with it -- fleeing from Saul, fleeing from his own sons, watching thousands of people be killed by a destroying angel for his own sin, along with temptations that brought generational consequences...

You have me thinking of how much God might actually want for our lives, but when given a glimpse, maybe most of us become too prideful or won't put in the work or can't withstand the opposition -- and God has no choice but to change our direction.
 
I've heard the story of David and Goliath dozens of times, but someone once shed new light on it when they emphasized that David's older brother scoffed at David when he said, "Who is this uncircumcised heathen to talk to God's people this way?"

David's brother basically told him, "Who do you think you are little boy, you and the few piddly little sheep you look after?"
I think this is a great example of how life can be. Sometimes, those closest to us can be just as much a discouragement as the enemy. In this case, I think David's focus was very much on God's glory, not his own. His implied reference to the circumcision covenant, in that the uncircumcised Philistine was daring to defy not only (circumcised) Israel, but also the living God who was behind the covenant. Similarly, David's words calling for the Philistine reproach to be taken away from Israel (as the reproach of uncircumcision had been taken away from Israel long before at Gilgal (Joshua 5:3)).
1 Samuel 17:26 And David spake to the men that stood by him, saying, What shall be done to the man that killeth this Philistine, and taketh away the reproach from Israel? for who is this uncircumcised Philistine, that he should defy the armies of the living God?

Then the ones who should have been closest David and supporting him obey God, instead step in and make the accusations - this is just David's pride, blood-lust etc. But David is sure in seeking God's glory and continues to make the point that this disgrace needs to be removed. David is not necessarily committing to smite the Philistine himself, in my opinion, but is stating what needs to be done and perhaps giving others more suited to the role an opportunity.

28 And Eliab his eldest brother heard when he spake unto the men; and Eliab's anger was kindled against David, and he said, Why camest thou down hither? and with whom hast thou left those few sheep in the wilderness? I know thy pride, and the naughtiness of thine heart; for thou art come down that thou mightest see the battle.
29 And David said, What have I now done? Is there not a cause?
30 And he turned from him toward another, and spake after the same manner: and the people answered him again after the former manner.


When no others come forward, and no argument could be made against the fact that the Philistine disgrace must be removed from Israel, David puts his life on the line. While other personalities might have said similar things, this is probably where David differed. His experience with the lion and bear and the sling might have made him more prepared to attack Goliath one on one. Perhaps his anointing by Samuel also made him confident God would preserve him? A Gideon might have gone away and prayed, and attacked at night (after some heavenly prompting?) Perhaps a Jael might have sought an invitation to help set up Goliath's tent with her hammer and peg while he slept? :)

I think key for us is knowing what our gifts are, and being prepared to put ourselves on the line for God's glory. If we're not sure what our gifts are, or our confidence is in our gifts rather than God, or our focus is not on God's will, this is where we can fail.
 
I'm too old to have a fantasy self. What makes each of my days good is a jog and a nap. If I get those, I'm living the dream, baby!

Looking back on my life I'm reminded of all the stupid things I managed to do. That keeps me humble, very humble...

I'm very content now, have been for quite a while. I attribute that to my walk in Jesus Christ. He is so good to us and I'm so deeply thankful for all He's given to me and to so many brothers and sisters that make up the Body of Christ.
 
I feel like I'm getting ready to answer this in a more lighthearted manner than everyone else lol, but here goes!

When I was younger, I wanted to be the real life Annie Oakley. I'd still like to actually. Someone with her fortitude and skills is smashingness...
annie oakley.jpg

I've also wanted to be like the fictional Sarah Connor, especially her muscular physique...

sarah conner.png

But, I really like being myself. I just want to continue to improve myself with what ability and resources I have.
And I kinda like the idea of living by that saying that I've seen on some fitness tshirts, "Make yourself hard to kill." lol 💪
 
Do you feel God told you to tear down your fantasies, or did He tear them down?
I'm not entirely sure how to summarize the mystery of how it happened to me.

I was embittered up because of 'Her'. I consider all the righteous reasons it fell apart. I got caught up in presuming what she felt, and consider how I might be a narccicist, and remember that a proud heart is an abomination to God, and see that all the things of my mind are so grand...
and I've been thanking God for them, and they comforted me...
yet I couldn't deny that they might just be a delusion of grandiose, a 'chasing phantasy' that's condemned in proverbs.
So one day my soul said to it all: "Oh no! Is this... proud!?!" and that's when my entire inner being unraveled and fell apart.

Yet, the things of those dreams have not gone away. In fact, my minds eye can still 'see' them, clear as day, as if they were a memory of something I recently looked at.
Some of them are weapons.
None of it is of this world.
So, I've started to embrace them again, yet right now they're just 'floating around', not really in any spicific order.
I suppose the most outstanding work of my imagination right now is a cartoon inspired by all the things I've seen in my life.