God also promises that Satan will take that land. How would I know the difference?
Who is a Jew?
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Satan lays his false claim to all the world and can only possess the already created creations of the world by getting them to give it to him. But God is the true Lord and King and Creator and Master and can set up and tear down kingdoms as he so pleases in the Truth.
And the Truth remains, Jesus is the only way to God, those without Jesus are children of Satan. Ipso...
How is it that I can know that these who have taken the land of Israel are actually God's people? Would not the Muslims before them, and the Christians in spaces between, have believed the same of themselves?
Because they're the race that was promised the land. The arabs land is to the south in, you know, arabia.
I mainly raised the issue about females because being a true Jew is about one's heart - not race or ritual, and it's easy demonstrate using female Jews as the example. As for the land inheritance, I'm leaving that for King Jesus to decide.
When Jesus comes, it will be like lightning - seen from the East to the West. When Satan does (beforehand), I doubt it will compare. Some over-pomped dude, trying to put on a good show, but failing dismally (at least, in comparison to what we expect of the King of kings and Lord of lords). Every knee shall bow before Lord Jesus. Not so with Satan - he will try to kill those who won't bow before him.
But how do I know they're THE race? Not one of them can prove a bloodline to the Patriarch.
Open your eyes and see who Israel has become and why all are jews by translation, not by blood unless you are applying the Blood of the Lamg, and by Him we are all one.
What are "jews by translation"? I have not studied this, nor do I believe I have heard this before.
Well you know they're the race God promised that land to because of the Bible and wider history.
If you mean how to tell if they have jewish lineage, you frankly usually tell just by looking at them, but if not there are tests to tell by their dna which race they are from.
Most people have red what Jew means in Romans, I believe, when Paul describes what a true Jew is, however the bestsource is when Leah named Judah, saying God has given me a boy child, there fore I willpraise Him. Therefore sha calle him Judah, Prase God. Yah short for Yahweh or Yahu and dah to praise Him.
When paul is explaing it he calls believer true praiser os Yah, God,or of Yahweh.
This is why, all who possess the faith of Abraham are Praqisers of Yahweh or Jews.
Because we are to rule with God, we are also Israel, which translates as such. We are adopted, made fellowheirs with srael
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kaylagrl
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Replacement theology, been around for years. No, Christians don't replace the Jews, read Romans 11. Oddly enough, Hitler seemed to be able to decide who was a Jew, he killed 6 million of them. Or are you saying they were not Jews?!
Jesus himself is the true Israel.
There only ever has been one people of God... The Jewish nation where to be light to the nations... Christ, is the true Son, and is the light. The wall of hostility has been torn down, and the gentile branched have been grafted in already.
The gospel preached in the New is the same as the good news Abraham believed. There is only one way of salvation and there only ever has been. And that is by Faith and through Faith either jew or gentile.
An example would be Hosea 11:1
When Israel was a child, I loved him, and out of Egypt I called my son.
Matt 2:14-15
So he got up, took the child and his mother during the night and left for Egypt, where he stayed until the death of Herod. And so was fulfilled what the Lord had said through the prophet: “Out of Egypt I called my son.”
So now although you have those who are ethnically classified as Jewish.. The one people of God are in, by and through faith Israel.. Christ!
Dispensationalists have a problem and a serious one, they Don t not allow the New to interpret the Old even though the writers of the New do it themselves.. An example of course is above...
There only ever has been one people of God... The Jewish nation where to be light to the nations... Christ, is the true Son, and is the light. The wall of hostility has been torn down, and the gentile branched have been grafted in already.
The gospel preached in the New is the same as the good news Abraham believed. There is only one way of salvation and there only ever has been. And that is by Faith and through Faith either jew or gentile.
An example would be Hosea 11:1
When Israel was a child, I loved him, and out of Egypt I called my son.
Matt 2:14-15
So he got up, took the child and his mother during the night and left for Egypt, where he stayed until the death of Herod. And so was fulfilled what the Lord had said through the prophet: “Out of Egypt I called my son.”
So now although you have those who are ethnically classified as Jewish.. The one people of God are in, by and through faith Israel.. Christ!
Dispensationalists have a problem and a serious one, they Don t not allow the New to interpret the Old even though the writers of the New do it themselves.. An example of course is above...
Even though I have interest in Christianity, I belong to a reform Jewish Synagogue that is quite inclusive. At this point, we would define anybody that identifies as Jewish as Jewish.
There is no need to be confused or troubled. The Bible is crystal clear about the following:
1. The Church began on the day of Pentecost (AD 30) and continues to this day.
2. The Church is the Body of Christ and consists of both redeemed Jews and Gentiles.
3. The Church is called "the Israel of God" since the "good olive tree" is believing Israel and the grafted branches are the Gentiles.
4. The Church will be completed in number by the time of the Resurrection/Rapture.
5. The eternal home of the Church is the New Jerusalem, a heavenly city.
6. After the Rapture God will resume his dealings with Israel (the twelve tribes).
7. God will establish redeemed and restored Israel (including Jerusalem on earth) in the land of "Greater Israel" (from the Nile to the Euphrates).
As you can see God has parallel plans for the Church and for redeemed and restored Israel. Replacement Theology is false, and we need to be clear about this. I could go into a multitude of Scriptures to support these conclusions, but the main thing is to understand what God has revealed to us.
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kaylagrl
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I should have read further, I didn't mean to repeat your comment. But it is worth repeating.
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kaylagrl
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Here we go again. God made an unconditional covenant, it has not changed, it will not change. The church doesn't replace the Jews, the church gets all the blessings, the Jews get all the curses. No, God will fulfill His promises.