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Ah yes... One of the "immortal soul" proof texts. The comma is in the wrong place.
Luk 23:43
And Jesus said to him, “Assuredly, I say to you today, you will be with Me in Paradise.”
Jesus was speaking emphatically, he wanted the thief to know that he meant what he said, that the thief will indeed be saved. In our vernacular, we might say something like "I'm telling you right now that you will be with me in Paradise."
Luk 23:43
And Jesus said to him, “Assuredly, I say to you today, you will be with Me in Paradise.”
Jesus was speaking emphatically, he wanted the thief to know that he meant what he said, that the thief will indeed be saved. In our vernacular, we might say something like "I'm telling you right now that you will be with me in Paradise."
You didn't provide an exegesis, which means you can kinda skirt around flaws in your interpretation being proven out. But I never get one, so it is what it is. I will deal with your statements on individual verses instead.
About the above, is it not a fallacy to think that only angels can sin, and therefore the passage could not therefore be dealing with men?
That has specifically to do with the context of WHY Peter was pointing out the eight souls who were saved, which is why I wanted your exegesis of the entire passage.
That's not the argument I am making, however.
Again, I do not think that, nor am I proposing it. You would need to address my actual argument, not simply disprove something I'm not saying and not arguing for.
Again, what is your exegesis of the entire passage of 1 Peter 3:17-22?
About the above, is it not a fallacy to think that only angels can sin, and therefore the passage could not therefore be dealing with men?
That has specifically to do with the context of WHY Peter was pointing out the eight souls who were saved, which is why I wanted your exegesis of the entire passage.
That's not the argument I am making, however.
Again, I do not think that, nor am I proposing it. You would need to address my actual argument, not simply disprove something I'm not saying and not arguing for.
Again, what is your exegesis of the entire passage of 1 Peter 3:17-22?
Wise people do not deny and contradict plain-as-day Scripture verses. You know?
Such as: God alone is immortal.
The whole teaching of Scripture is that life is in Christ alone, because He is life.
Those not found in Him after the resurrection and judgment of all at the end of this age pass into the 2nd death.
They will not be sleeping, or weeping.
Such as: God alone is immortal.
The whole teaching of Scripture is that life is in Christ alone, because He is life.
Those not found in Him after the resurrection and judgment of all at the end of this age pass into the 2nd death.
They will not be sleeping, or weeping.
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Bipartite beings are either living souls or dead souls, hence since there is the phrase 'the souls of the dead,' and so there is the souls of the living. Up until the time of the final judgement, which will be either to the resurrection of life, or, if you will, the second life or the resurrection to the second death. Until then, of the saved it is said, "though they die they shall live.' That is they will be raised again to life eternal, i.e. they are "as good as alive.' if the Lord's promise of the resurrection is sure, and it is. On the other hand, of the wicked it is said, "though they live they are dead.' That is, they are as good as dead, for the same reason. But they, the two groups, are all the same after dying once, "for it is appointment for men to die once, and then the resurrection,' that they 'sleep,' or are in a state of... what would I call it... someone knows the word I'm wanting...
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Oy. So being with someone somewhere means they must be awake? Wow. I guess you have never slept with anyone .
Hello, sister. Trying to make my way back around to this forum again. Nice to see some of the old faces. As I remember it, CV5 was someone I was generally in agreement with on Charismatic issues, only we seem to be getting nowhere on this one.
Just thought I'd say hello again, and... maybe to have a little mercy , Lol.
Blessings in Christ, and good to see you are still around.
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cv5 has decried the lack of chutzpah in people's responses. So I make an effort to give him some...
Since, being with Jesus in death does not disprove what he claimed it did in the slightest.
In fact his claim was just another logical fallacy.
Nice to see you back again!
Thank You! God Bless You
Since, being with Jesus in death does not disprove what he claimed it did in the slightest.
In fact his claim was just another logical fallacy.
Nice to see you back again!
Thank You! God Bless You
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