Where do I go from here? (Advice needed with my ex-girlfriend)

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Cartoon

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I just need to get this all off my chest. Where do I begin?...

Back in March of this year, I was matched with this girl on a Christian dating website. We started to get to know one another by talking to each other through Skype. We got along pretty well and had similar interests. Come to find out, we had many friends in common. Several weeks passed and we talked about meeting one another in person. We ended up going on our first date to a nearby restaurant.

We talked about our families, our upbringings, our Christian faith, when we were saved, etc. We talked for the next 3 hours until the restaurant closed. We then grabbed some dessert and talked until the ice-cream place closed as well.
We then drove around talking about different things in our town. I took her to my house to meet my parents. She stayed and talked for a while and finally needed to go home. Our first date lasted 8 hours long. Pretty much a success, I‘d say.

We continued to hang out all the time from then on. We’d see each other almost daily. We would talk for hours and hours and never got bored with one another. No one could make me laugh as much as she did.

We soon became boyfriend and girlfriend and we began to share pieces of our hearts with one another. We would tell each other that we cared for one another and that we missed each other. We also held hands and would hug each other (nothing sexual ever happened, don’t worry).

The more that I began to know Jill, the more that my heart fell for her. She shared with me how her family was messed up (even though she comes from a Christian home) and how her family is so dysfunctional. She shared how some of her family members had issues with suicide attempts and how others had gotten pregnant out of wedlock, and so on.

She shared how one of her past boyfriends was physically abusive to her. Nothing upsets me more when someone is mistreated and wronged. She would cry with me about things that were on her heart. I was always gentle, sweet and kind with her. I wanted to show her how a man is supposed to treat a woman.

She shared with me how she never had someone be so kind and sweet to her. She didn’t have the best relationship with her father and has never seen a true male figure in her life.

As we continued to grow in our relationship, we started saying “I love you” to one another. Nothing meant more to me than to hear her say those words. How sweet they were!

She was sweet, kind, and funny with me. She was everything that I wanted in a future spouse. We started talking about our future and that we saw being with each other for a long time. We never wanted to be with anyone else….

As time passed, she began to share pieces of her past. She was afraid by telling me these things that I would run off. I told her nonsense and that I cared for her. I told her that ‘’it didn’t matter what she did in her past, it wouldn’t keep me from loving her”.

Father into our relationship though, I began to notice some things.



  • Some of her friends who were super close to her are not good influences. One to be exact would drink, talk about getting wasted, sexual innuendos, used the f-word constantly (among other choice words), was very immature and acted like he was 16 years old (even though he is in his late 20’s). Jill would laugh at the sexual comments. She would hang out with these friends when we were not together, but would not hang out when I was around. She even made excuses for them saying that they were Christians and they prayed. She even went to their houses to hang out.
  • There were some things that didn’t line up with what we first talked about in the beginning. For example, I believe that it is foolish to drink. I talked about these things were her and shared Scriptures and she agreed with me on these things (or so I thought). She had shared how she had a few drinks but was ashamed of it and wouldn’t ever do it again. A few months later, the topic of alcohol came back up again and she had a different tune. She said that she wasn’t sure if she would go out and drink again or not. She also said that if she did, she wouldn’t do it in front of me.
  • I noticed that she liked things on her friends’ Facebook pages that were sexual and VERY inappropriate.
  • She had no problem going and hanging out with other guys, one-on-one. She even went to dinner with them, even though they were just her friends. Call me old fashioned, but what is the point of dating me if you are with other men? I told her that I didn’t like it and that she said that she was surprised. She told me that her other boyfriends had jealousy issues and were always so controlling about who she was with. She believed that having jealousy was unhealthy. She wouldn’t have a problem with me hanging out with other girls as long as she knew about it (why would I want to when she made me happy?). She didn’t like someone telling her that she couldn’t hang out with her friends (I never did that). She called me later and said that she wouldn’t hang out with other guys because she knew that it would make me happy.
  • When talking about why I post Bible verses and profound statements on my Facebook page, Jill said, “That's why I don't really post very many profound statements or posts. It might hurt someone's feelings or give them the wrong idea. I'll post bible quotes but I always try and think of why I am posting the bible verse. If it is to condemn someone or put people down I will not post the verse. But if I am doing it with a good heart and good intentions, then I will post it. Just because it's a bible verse doesn't mean it's a good thing to post; it's all about the thoughts and feelings behind it.”
  • She didn’t like it that I said ‘’yes sir, no ma’am” and “yes ma’am, no ma’am” to her parents. She said that I didn’t have to shake her Dad’s hand and that I didn’t have to hug her Mom every time that I went over to their house. She said that I didn’t have to be so formal around them.
  • When I got into her car once, she had her radio playing. As I started to speak, she cut me off and said, ‘’hold on, this is one of my favorite songs”. She didn’t want to talk until after the song was over.

I talked to her about several issues that I had with her. I was as kind as I could be with her. She said that she didn’t want to be in a relationship with me anymore and that it wasn’t working out. All those phone calls, all those texts, all those “I love you”, “I miss you”, “I don’t want to be with anyone else” messages simply stopped.

She revealed to me that she dated me for what she called the right reasons. She then said that she thought that if she dated a good Christian guy, that it would fix her. She thought that if she was with me, it would bring her closer to God. She said that only she could bring herself closer to Him.

She said that she always felt guilty and bad about herself when she was around me. I always encouraged her, always lifted her up, how could I make her feel bad? I believe that she was convicted about things in her life but didn’t want to change them. She said that she felt good about herself and could be herself with her other friends, but not with me. She was afraid of me seeing the real her, who she said was mean.

She told me different reasons as to why I dated her and she questioned as to whether or not that I really loved her. These things hurt me very deeply. I always asked her how I could pray for her and she never once asked me how she could pray for me in return.

I learned more and more about her. She had emotional issues. She used to cut when she was younger and even almost took up smoking while we were dating due to depression (I found this out after we broke up). She revealed many other things about herself.

She sent me a message saying that she was in love with someone who was thousands of miles away. She called me and said that it was complicated and that she didn’t know why she said those things and that it was all just foolish and that she didn’t love the guy after all.

It has been a month since I have seen her. The hurt and pain is still there. I still think about her. I think about all the sweet things that she said to me. All the serious times where she just shared her heart with me and where she cried about her fears and her struggles in life. How could someone be so genuine and sweet with you and then change so suddenly?

I truly loved Jill with all of my heart. I was good to her even when she wasn’t good to me. I was about her and she was about herself.

There are times where I just miss her, though. Sometimes I wonder, “If she wasn’t meant for me, then why was she brought in my life?”.

There is a part of me that hopes maybe down the road we could reconnect and be together again (that is, if she got her life right).

My heart breaks for her in that she is with those people who are leading her down a path of loneliness and destruction.
I write all this out, spewing all my feelings... I feel so lost… so hurt… like the wind has been knocked out of my sails…

Have any of you been in my shoes before? What advice can you all give me?
 
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Brother, have you ever heard of co-dependents and the people who fall in love with them? Just thank God you didn't get married and give it some time! You fell in love with the person you thought she was and that's hard! But this is as much on you as it is on her. Bless you and I'm sure you can find prayer here!
 
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alehandra

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Dear Brother Cartoon,

"A relationship will only be as healthy as the individuals in it"


A blessing can only be a blessing when its receiver is ready to handle it. We can't give a car to children, we can't give solid food to a baby. There is always a step by step process behind it in order for the gift can be utilized well. So does love can only be enjoyed when the two individuals has developed enough maturity to handle it. Before its season, love could bring only heart-breaking experience. Have you ever being in a relationship which drains your emotion, time, and energy so bad? Have you ever expected badly and not getting its return? There are two possibility reasons behind it. It may be that our hearts have not ready yet or we were in a relationship with a not-ready person...


It is your responsibility to ensure that your future spouse is a Christian. “This is so important, and not to convince yourself that she is because she goes to church or likes your ‘spirituality’ or she's interested in spiritual things - but, is she a Christian?(Daryl Bell). To know if a person is a Christian we need to personally examine them to see if they are in the faith, the same way one needs to examine oneself in accordance with the biblical teaching: “Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you—unless, of course, you fail the test?” (2 Corinthians 13:5)


It is not only enough to ensure that the person is a Christian but to know if that person is spiritually compatible with you
Finally, remember that our God is a god of order and not a god of confusion. If something is His will, He will provide peace to both parties. Never try to force your peace on the other person, or accept to enter into a relationship based on the peace that the other person feels. You too need to experience the peace of God. You too need to hear the voice of God.


The take home message, here, is never marry a person without having peace.




Conclusion


Several biblical principles were provided in choosing your spouse. If you follow them, you will end up with a good choice. Ultimately, what is important is God’s will. It is not enough to apply the above and other principles, what is important is to pray and fast to allow the Holy Spirit to lead you to the person the Lord has chosen for you.

be blessing
-cilla-

 
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Jordache

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Jill is very right in much of what she says. She is the only one who can pursue her relationship with God. It's great that she recognizes this. She also realized she can't be fixed by a man. Jill sounds very depressed and insecure. I wouldn't really worry about her friends except that she seems to be easily swayed and not have quite a sure footing. She needs stability but only through Christ. If she is not at a place where she can or knows how to work on these things then its good for her to be alone to work these things out. Her opinions are easily swayed because she doesn't have a firm foundation. So she agrees with what gives her stability in the moment. But she is also struggling to form her own opinions. Id venture to say that she has never really has a voice or at least one that's respected. So she hesitates in fear of being rejected for her opinion. If she holds to what she believes is right and another tells her she's wrong that is a huge trigger for rejection. However it seems that she is wrestling with learning to have a voice and an opinion. Encourage her to speak her mind, and accept her opinion even if you don't agree. Realize that she's trying to hold to an opinion when she fears rejection.
The more stable she becomes the more right choices she will make. They may not be ones you agree with but they are steps forward. I know these things because I have been this girl before and thank God Im climbing out of it. I'm in a relationship with an amazing man who is not always perfect but does a lot for my good. 1) In a spontaneous moment reach out and pray for her. Recognize her triggers and respond to God. She will feel seen and known. 2) Listen to her carefully and without judgement. If she struggles to speak give her time and maybe ask her questions to help her. 3). Give her physical reassurance. Hugs and such. A sign that you aren't rejecting her. 4) check on her occasionally. It shows that you aren't rejecting her, that you know she's struggling, and that you are willing to be there even if all you know how to do is pray.
Obviously these work better in a relationship, but if you still have a way to speak with her, you can still be an encourager and and open ear. Let her talk. Let her cry it out but reassure her that you're still there. If you cannot speak with her then simply pray.
You can PM me for more info.
 

respekt

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Your love story is like in the movie "500 Days of Summer"

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Jill's role is like this lady named Summer Finn.

Well, I was in your shoes couple months ago after 2,5 years of deep relationship though it was not similar to your case. The memory could not be erased easily, it scarred my heart though. Keep praying and focused on your goals. Pray that God will provide the right one for you according to His perfect timing :)

God bless!
 

PowerPuffGirl

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Wow that sounds awful. I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I know how it feels. With time, it will go away. You will be happy and smiling when you find the right lady.

I know you think you loved her but I really do think that love is when you fall for someone who reminds you of how good Jesus is. From what you have said, it seems like she wasn't producing the fruits of the spirit: love, peace, faithfulness, joy, goodness, gentleness, patience, self-control and kindness. You should pray for her though and hope that she does get to change her life before it is too late.

As for you, I really do think you were just in love with the idea of being in love. I can tell because it has happened to me many times! You meet someone you like, you think they are attractive, you get to know them and they seem great and you just immediately start falling into this whirlwind of romance and enter lala land. Then all of a sudden they break your heart and you soon realize that you weren't really in love with them but with the idea of being with someone.

You seem like a really good guy. Any girl would be blessed to have you as her husband. I think it's cute that you respect her and her parents. It's a sign of maturity to go and shake hands with her father and hug her mother. The fact that she got upset because of this shows how immature she is. I don't mean to speak wrong of her but I just thought I would point that out. Like I said, pray for her and learn to distinguish romance from love.

God bless and if you need more advice, send me a message!
 

Cartoon

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Thank you all for the responses and advice. I have been seeking counsel from my friends and family members and they have suggested that I cut off all ties with her. I deleted her from my phone and my Facebook. I saw more things that she liked and posted on her Facebook (sexually explicit stuff) and it is blatantly apparent that she is as lost as a goose. I feel so stupid right now. None of these things ever came up when we were dating. She seemed like a great Christian woman...

If any of you have anything else to offer, I will gladly take your advice. Thanks again!
 

respekt

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Thank you all for the responses and advice. I have been seeking counsel from my friends and family members and they have suggested that I cut off all ties with her. I deleted her from my phone and my Facebook. I saw more things that she liked and posted on her Facebook (sexually explicit stuff) and it is blatantly apparent that she is as lost as a goose. I feel so stupid right now. None of these things ever came up when we were dating. She seemed like a great Christian woman...

If any of you have anything else to offer, I will gladly take your advice. Thanks again!
Don't feel stupid bro! You should give thanks to God that the relationship did not go too far to marriage. It taught you to be wiser to choose a right partner for you in the future. I know you still have the pain but don't worry, pray that God will heal and soothe your soul. He is the best Healer of all. God bless!
 
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djness

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It's kind of sad that you had to learn it first hand cartoon, but as I said to you one night int he prayer room, not everyone is good and honorable and pure and full of love. People have dirt on them, some people its more of a mudslide, she seems to be one of those. She saw a shining white knight and she tried to appeal to you but her nature and her likes are those of the world. She may even have pushed you away because she didn't feel worthy of such a great guy. Could be any reason. People rarely understand their own motives. That's a science unto itself.

The worst thing to do is continue to be heartbroken over her. You can pray for her but unless she wants to stop being in sin there isn't any hope of something good happening between you to.

I told you I had a similar thing happen to me years ago and it is difficult but you eventually get over it and LEARN, that is the important part. LEARN. Go over all the stuff you have written down and learn from it, what you should ask, what you should do, how you should guard yourself. Especially how you should guard yourself.

Hope you are able to heal from this one soon man. Don't let it keep you down for to long. The world needs Cartoon.
God Loves you and so do people here!
 
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littlebird

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Wow!! Alehandra, Thanks for this reply. I know it wasn't meant for me but God totally spoke to me just now by me reading this. I have had bad relationships and been treated badly by men before. All I want is for someone on my level to be with. You hit so many important points. Thank you and God bless!
 

Cartoon

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Jill needs LOTS of prayer...
 
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cmarieh

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You just need to leave her alone and focus on your own self. I know that may sound selfish, but you will never move on if you are constantly worrying about her.
 
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gocardinals25

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I have been in your shoes before and I knew the girl I was with wasn't who God wanted me to be with but rather who I wanted to be with, that path seems to always lead to destruction, I still love her but I did leave her, it may take some time but trust me when i tell you it's the right decision.
 
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tching27

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Hey man, you know I believe God can change people, but pray for his help and guidance. With God nothing is impossible when you believe. I hope you can overcome with that with God! God bless!
 

Cartoon

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She still tries to contact me about once a week through text to see how I am doing and what I am up to. She woke me up the other night at 2:15 a.m. with a phone call. She was like, ''hey, what are you doing?". I told her that I was sleeping and asked her what she was doing up so late. She said that she was out hanging with friends and that she was near a fast food place by my house so she thought that she would just call me. She then said that she would let me get back to sleep and let me go. Why would anyone be hanging out with people on a Saturday night that late? I did ask if she was going to church in the morning and she responded with "maybe"... It was odd...