Where Did Our Faith Come From?

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Magenta

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Romans 12:3 For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought,
but think of yourself with sober judgment, according to the measure of faith God has given you.



Ephesians 2:4-7 ~ Because of His great love for us, God, Who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in our trespasses. It is by grace you have been saved! And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with Him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, in order that in the coming ages He might display the surpassing riches of His grace, demonstrated by His kindness to us in Christ Jesus. :)
 

Magenta

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‘I have made you a light for the Gentiles, to bring salvation to the ends of the earth.’ ” When the Gentiles heard
this, they rejoiced and glorified the word of the Lord, and all who were appointed for eternal life believed.


For He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world to be holy and blameless in His presence.

He predestined us for adoption as His sons through Jesus Christ, according to the good pleasure of His will.

He has saved us and called us to a holy calling, not because of our works, but by His
own purpose and by the grace He granted us in Christ Jesus before time began.


... hope that God may grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth. Then they will
come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, who has taken them captive to his will.


For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for Him.

Those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son.

etc etc
 

Magenta

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John 15:5c; Philippians 2:13 Apart from Me you can do nothing. For it is God who works in you
to will and to act on behalf of His good purpose.

Thank you to @Pilgrimshope for the inspiration! I hope you and yours are well .:)
 

MeowFlower

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The first people were garden dwellers, not cave dwellers. If you believe the evolutionary timeline for human development, you aren't believing the Bible
You don't know in what habitat Adam and Eve dwelt after leaving Eden.
Do you believe the earth is 6,000 years old?
 
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Faith is truly a gift from God; however, it is up to his children and people to practice faith wisely, guided by the Holy Spirit through His word. Or we can say we have faith and leave it in our minds and never produce fruit for Christ. I think it was John Calvin who said, "By Faith alone, but Faith is never alone.* That might be a mis-quote, but I think it is close. So it is by Faith that we "will and do" of His good pleasure.
 

homwardbound

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hearing! Romans 10:17!
Only by the word of God the risen son gets one in free of charge ever, wow, Lord thank you beyond measure thank you. I am now listening, what to do next, understanding not top go to myself or any other man, knowing now what is in my first born self and others as well
1 John 2:27
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teachyou: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Thank you a million tines over and over and over again, wow, woe is me
 

HeIsHere

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For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—

Salvation is the gift, not faith.

Calvinism undone.
 

homwardbound

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a reminder to Psalm 25:14.
Authorized (King James) Version

The secret of the Lord is with them that fear him;
and he will shew them his covenant.

Yet, now I do not fear God, why?

1 John 4:18
There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

God is perfect in Love, revealed in Son to us as risen as proof to me at least, thanks you Father and Son as Won for us first
 

JohnRH

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Did we create our own faith … and then believe in Jesus and the Gospel?
Or, did it come from somewhere else … like from God?


Jude 3
“… the FAITH which was once for all delivered to the saints.” (NKJV)
“… the FAITH that God has entrusted once for all time to His holy people.” (NLT)
“… the truth which God gave, once for all, to His people …” (LB)
Jude says our faith was given to us, and entrusted to us.

2 Peter 1:1
“To those who have received a FAITH of the same kind as ours …” (NASB)
“This FAITH was given to you …” (NLT)
“To: All of you who have our kind of faith. The faith I speak of is
the kind that Jesus Christ our God and Savior gives to us.” (LB)
Peter says our faith was given to us, and we have received it.

Acts 13:48
“Now when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the word of the Lord.
and as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.” (NKJV, NASB, NIV)
“When the Gentiles heard this, they were very glad and thanked the Lord for His message;
and all who were chosen for eternal life became believers.” (NLT)
Luke says these Gentiles were chosen first, and then they became believers.
Jesus says, “You did not choose Me; I chose you.” (Luke)

Acts 16:14
“… and the Lord opened her heart to respond to the things spoken by Paul.” (NASB)
“… the Lord opened her heart, and she accepted what Paul was saying.” (NLT)
“The Lord opened her heart to respond to Paul’s message.” (NIV)
Luke says Lydia needed God’s help to respond to (and accept) Paul’s message.
Even though she was a worshiper of God … Lydia needed God
to open her heart before she could believe Paul’s Gospel message.
Does this mean that God made her OPEN to believe,
or that God gave her the faith necessary to believe?


It appears that Scripture says:
we don’t create our own faith … God gives it to us,
so we can believe in Jesus and the Gospel.
Faith is faith. Faith is part of everyone's created make-up. It's the object of a person's faith that determines whether they will spend eternity in heaven or hell.
 

MeowFlower

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#36
Why would you thumbs down a question asked so to gain clarity?
OK, so now you are indifferent to the question and unable to answer it.

Let me assist you.

It is referred to as, Salvific Faith. Not Salving faith.

Hope that helps.

Salvation and faith are both gifts of God,btw. Free and irrevocable.
 

Mem

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Where did our hope come from? How about our love? And isn't it possible that all these can be abandoned?
-I have forsaken My house; I have abandoned my inheritance. I have given the love of My life into the hand of her enemies. My inheritance has become to Me like a lion in the forest. She has roared against Me; therefore I hate her... Jeremiah 12: 7-8
 

HeIsHere

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OK, so now you are indifferent to the question and unable to answer it.

Let me assist you.

It is referred to as, Salvific Faith. Not Salving faith.

Hope that helps.

Salvation and faith are both gifts of God,btw. Free and irrevocable.
I do not need your help, the faith exercised in Ephesians 2:8 is not the gift, and it is space, comma, space btw!
 

MeowFlower

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I do not need your help, the faith exercised in Ephesians 2:8 is not the gift, and it is space, comma, space btw!
A grammar Nazi who is wrong in dictating punctuation and who is arrogant in their ignorance. How cute.
 

HeIsHere

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A grammar Nazi who is wrong in dictating punctuation and who is arrogant in their ignorance. How cute.
:D
comma and space!

You are not someone I would normally engage with and I rushed the post, after your diatribe in the "Hatred of the Jews" thread I knew I would have zero to say to you but alas a little bIt of boredom can make one go where one would not go.
Ciao.