When does the rapture occur?
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popeye
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we see the nations aligning like a chess board.
Obama 2 days ago "there are some in congress that want to block theses changes"
As if he were already seizing power.
PlainWord;2097913 VCO said:Thank you,
And I say it is COOL towards helping the KURDS, which Obama is pressuring Him to do.
BESIDES, Turkey will not produce the Antichrist, the revived Roman Empire, the European Union, is the Beast from the Sea.
And most of the Commentaries in my WORDsearch 10, agree on that:
You like the symbolism rumors, I just found this on my own, even tho I personally think it is about meaningless; you may find it significant. Below is the European Union's Coat of Arms, and within that Coat of Arms are each Countries Coat of Arms. What is Interesting is a standing Lion is frequently used to represent a KINGDOM, and there are exactly 10 countries that use the Standing LION in their Coat of Arms, and ONE KNIGHT.
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popeye
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Flash at the rapture.
But at the end of the GT he returns with a great army of saints on white horses.. That will take some time for possibly MILLIONS OF us on white horses to assemble in the atmosphere. At least several minutes.
You might as well give up on trying to MAKE both of them one event
Flash for the second coming. He tells us this in Mat 24:
[SUP]27 [/SUP]For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
You may as well give up making two events out of one return my dear friend. Everything is absolutely consistent with a single post trib return.
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popeye
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Uh,try a better version for accurracy sake please;Flash for the second coming. He tells us this in Mat 24:
[SUP]27 [/SUP]For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
You may as well give up making two events out of one return my dear friend. Everything is absolutely consistent with a single post trib return.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
See that? He did not say " I come as fast as lightning" You made that up in your mind.
Anyone can see the ANALOGY is the brightness,AND AREA,NOT THE SPEED.
Always check the greek;
"....is coming out from east,and is appearing as far as west...."
Your theory sir,is once again busted.
It will take some time to assemble the army from heaven.
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Called4Christ
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Flash for the second coming. He tells us this in Mat 24:
[SUP]27 [/SUP]For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
You may as well give up making two events out of one return my dear friend. Everything is absolutely consistent with a single post trib return.
STILL WRONG - An APPEARING does not constitute a COMING. You will see, and remember we tried to tell you.
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GaryA
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"You just remember - when you are about to be beheaded ( If you should live to see that day. ) - that we tried to tell you..."
( That there is no pre-trib rapture. )
The 'escape' that God provides to those He deems 'worthy' [ to not have to go through it ] is death-before-it-has-a-chance-to-happen - not rapture-before-it-has-a-chance-to-happen...
( There is no mid-trib rapture, either. ( In fact, there is no mid-trib anything... ) )
The "massive beheadings" of Christians in Revelation prophesy occur at the end of the Great Tribulation period.
After that comes the 3.5 (+?) years of "the two witnesses"; after that comes the Second Coming of Christ with the 'rapture' being the first [ significant prophetic ] thing that happens at that time.
( This is what I believe the scriptures indicate. )
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GaryA
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I do not mean to be 'unkind' in any way. I just want folks to be able to see the truth about the End Times Scenario - and prepare for what is coming..."You just remember - when you are about to be beheaded ( If you should live to see that day. ) - that we tried to tell you..."
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This is what i believe . No "rapture ""You just remember - when you are about to be beheaded ( If you should live to see that day. ) - that we tried to tell you..."
( That there is no pre-trib rapture. )
The 'escape' that God provides to those He deems 'worthy' [ to not have to go through it ] is death-before-it-has-a-chance-to-happen - not rapture-before-it-has-a-chance-to-happen...
( There is no mid-trib rapture, either. ( In fact, there is no mid-trib anything... ) )
The "massive beheadings" of Christians in Revelation prophesy occur at the end of the Great Tribulation period.
After that comes the 3.5 (+?) years of "the two witnesses"; after that comes the Second Coming of Christ with the 'rapture' being the first [ significant prophetic ] thing that happens at that time.
( This is what I believe the scriptures indicate. )
Can anyone tell me why Bible Scholars cannot agree where the land of Magog actually was:
Here is map that was in one of my Bibles that pictures it North and East of the Caspian Sea:
Now I stumble across another map that Places it in Central and Eastern Europe.
Yet another one places Magog Northwest of the Caspian Sea, above what is now Georgia, and another Country they cannot seem to agree on is the location of GOMER.
Baffling isn't it? It is like the Scholars get together to discuss translating of the Scriptures, but NEVER BOTHER TO TAKE THE TIME TO DISCUSS THE LOCATION OF THESE COUNTRIES THAT THE BIBLE MENTIONS.
Here is map that was in one of my Bibles that pictures it North and East of the Caspian Sea:
Now I stumble across another map that Places it in Central and Eastern Europe.
Yet another one places Magog Northwest of the Caspian Sea, above what is now Georgia, and another Country they cannot seem to agree on is the location of GOMER.
Baffling isn't it? It is like the Scholars get together to discuss translating of the Scriptures, but NEVER BOTHER TO TAKE THE TIME TO DISCUSS THE LOCATION OF THESE COUNTRIES THAT THE BIBLE MENTIONS.
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GaryA
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"Fair enough..."
Just understand that my definition of 'rapture' is simply "caught up" - and does not include "in secret" or any other thing that pre-trib folks like to "attach" to it...
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GaryA
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"Good question..."Can anyone tell me why Bible Scholars cannot agree where the land of Magog actually was:
Here is map that was in one of my Bibles that pictures it North and East of the Caspian Sea:
Now I stumble across another map that Places it in Central and Eastern Europe.
Yet another one places Magog Northwest of the Caspian Sea, above what is now Georgia, and another Country they cannot seem to agree on is the location of GOMER.
Baffling isn't it? It is like the Scholars get together to discuss translating of the Scriptures, but NEVER BOTHER TO TAKE THE TIME TO DISCUSS THE LOCATION OF THESE COUNTRIES THAT THE BIBLE MENTIONS.
Flash for the second coming. He tells us this in Mat 24:
[SUP]27 [/SUP]For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
You may as well give up making two events out of one return my dear friend. Everything is absolutely consistent with a single post trib return.
Not really. There is the catching away of the saints, not Jesus' return, consistent with Jesus' following after the ancient pattern of the Jewish wedding tradition, and then He and His Bride coming together to set up their "home" together in a triumphant arrival.
"Fair enough..."
Just understand that my definition of 'rapture' is simply "caught up" - and does not include "in secret" or any other thing that pre-trib folks like to "attach" to it...
I got news for you, "in secret" is an anti-pre-trib LABEL. NO ONE that I have learned from, EVER said that the being Caught Up to go to Wedding of the LAMB, was a secret. NEVER HAS IT BEEN A SECRET, IT IS WHAT THE PARABLE OF THE TEN VIRGINS IS ALL ABOUT.
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GaryA
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Ezekiel 39:
[SUP]6[/SUP] And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the LORD.
Perhaps this may help a little...?
[SUP]6[/SUP] And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the LORD.
Perhaps this may help a little...?
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GaryA
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"Fair enough..."
Just understand that my definition of 'rapture' is simply "caught up" - and does not include "in secret" or any other thing that pre-trib folks like to "attach" to it...
What I mean by "in secret" is the idea that only those who are being "caught up" can see Jesus at that time; rather, I believe that Jesus is coming back only one more time - and that "every eye shall see Him" - and that, the 'rapture' will be very open and seen by all...
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GaryA
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Every place in scripture where the words 'Gog' and 'Magog' are found:
Genesis 10:
[SUP]1[/SUP] Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood. [SUP]2[/SUP] The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras. [SUP]3[/SUP] And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah. [SUP]4[/SUP] And the sons of Javan; Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim. [SUP]5[/SUP] By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.
1 Chronicles 1:
[SUP]1[/SUP] Adam, Sheth, Enosh, [SUP]2[/SUP] Kenan, Mahalaleel, Jered, [SUP]3[/SUP] Henoch, Methuselah, Lamech, [SUP]4[/SUP] Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth. [SUP]5[/SUP] The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras. [SUP]6[/SUP] And the sons of Gomer; Ashchenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah. [SUP]7[/SUP] And the sons of Javan; Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim. [SUP]8[/SUP] The sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, Put, and Canaan. [SUP]9[/SUP] And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabta, and Raamah, and Sabtecha. And the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan.
1 Chronicles 5:
[SUP]4[/SUP] The sons of Joel; Shemaiah his son, Gog his son, Shimei his son,
Ezekiel 38:
[SUP]1[/SUP] And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, [SUP]2[/SUP] Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him, [SUP]3[/SUP] And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: [SUP]4[/SUP] And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords: [SUP]5[/SUP] Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet: [SUP]6[/SUP] Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee. [SUP]7[/SUP] Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them. [SUP]8[/SUP] After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them. [SUP]9[/SUP] Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee. [SUP]10[/SUP] Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought: [SUP]11[/SUP] And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates, [SUP]12[/SUP] To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land. [SUP]13[/SUP] Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil? [SUP]14[/SUP] Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it? [SUP]15[/SUP] And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army: [SUP]16[/SUP] And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes. [SUP]17[/SUP] Thus saith the Lord GOD; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them? [SUP]18[/SUP] And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face. [SUP]19[/SUP] For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel; [SUP]20[/SUP] So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground. [SUP]21[/SUP] And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother. [SUP]22[/SUP] And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone. [SUP]23[/SUP] Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD.
Ezekiel 39:
[SUP]1[/SUP] Therefore, thou son of man, prophesy against Gog, and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: [SUP]2[/SUP] And I will turn thee back, and leave but the sixth part of thee, and will cause thee to come up from the north parts, and will bring thee upon the mountains of Israel: [SUP]3[/SUP] And I will smite thy bow out of thy left hand, and will cause thine arrows to fall out of thy right hand. [SUP]4[/SUP] Thou shalt fall upon the mountains of Israel, thou, and all thy bands, and the people that is with thee: I will give thee unto the ravenous birds of every sort, and to the beasts of the field to be devoured. [SUP]5[/SUP] Thou shalt fall upon the open field: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD. [SUP]6[/SUP] And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the LORD. [SUP]7[/SUP] So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel. [SUP]8[/SUP] Behold, it is come, and it is done, saith the Lord GOD; this is the day whereof I have spoken. [SUP]9[/SUP] And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years: [SUP]10[/SUP] So that they shall take no wood out of the field, neither cut down any out of the forests; for they shall burn the weapons with fire: and they shall spoil those that spoiled them, and rob those that robbed them, saith the Lord GOD. [SUP]11[/SUP] And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamon-gog. [SUP]12[/SUP] And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land. [SUP]13[/SUP] Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified, saith the Lord GOD. [SUP]14[/SUP] And they shall sever out men of continual employment, passing through the land to bury with the passengers those that remain upon the face of the earth, to cleanse it: after the end of seven months shall they search. [SUP]15[/SUP] And the passengers that pass through the land, when any seeth a man's bone, then shall he set up a sign by it, till the buriers have buried it in the valley of Hamon-gog. [SUP]16[/SUP] And also the name of the city shall be Hamonah. Thus shall they cleanse the land. [SUP]17[/SUP] And, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD; Speak unto every feathered fowl, and to every beast of the field, Assemble yourselves, and come; gather yourselves on every side to my sacrifice that I do sacrifice for you, even a great sacrifice upon the mountains of Israel, that ye may eat flesh, and drink blood. [SUP]18[/SUP] Ye shall eat the flesh of the mighty, and drink the blood of the princes of the earth, of rams, of lambs, and of goats, of bullocks, all of them fatlings of Bashan. [SUP]19[/SUP] And ye shall eat fat till ye be full, and drink blood till ye be drunken, of my sacrifice which I have sacrificed for you. [SUP]20[/SUP] Thus ye shall be filled at my table with horses and chariots, with mighty men, and with all men of war, saith the Lord GOD. [SUP]21[/SUP] And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them. [SUP]22[/SUP] So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward. [SUP]23[/SUP] And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword. [SUP]24[/SUP] According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them. [SUP]25[/SUP] Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name; [SUP]26[/SUP] After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made them afraid. [SUP]27[/SUP] When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations; [SUP]28[/SUP] Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there. [SUP]29[/SUP] Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.
Revelation 20:
[SUP]7[/SUP] And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, [SUP]8[/SUP] And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. [SUP]9[/SUP] And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
I believe that this would be the starting place...
Genesis 10:
[SUP]1[/SUP] Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood. [SUP]2[/SUP] The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras. [SUP]3[/SUP] And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah. [SUP]4[/SUP] And the sons of Javan; Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim. [SUP]5[/SUP] By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.
1 Chronicles 1:
[SUP]1[/SUP] Adam, Sheth, Enosh, [SUP]2[/SUP] Kenan, Mahalaleel, Jered, [SUP]3[/SUP] Henoch, Methuselah, Lamech, [SUP]4[/SUP] Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth. [SUP]5[/SUP] The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras. [SUP]6[/SUP] And the sons of Gomer; Ashchenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah. [SUP]7[/SUP] And the sons of Javan; Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim. [SUP]8[/SUP] The sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, Put, and Canaan. [SUP]9[/SUP] And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabta, and Raamah, and Sabtecha. And the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan.
1 Chronicles 5:
[SUP]4[/SUP] The sons of Joel; Shemaiah his son, Gog his son, Shimei his son,
Ezekiel 38:
[SUP]1[/SUP] And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, [SUP]2[/SUP] Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him, [SUP]3[/SUP] And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: [SUP]4[/SUP] And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords: [SUP]5[/SUP] Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet: [SUP]6[/SUP] Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee. [SUP]7[/SUP] Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them. [SUP]8[/SUP] After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them. [SUP]9[/SUP] Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee. [SUP]10[/SUP] Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought: [SUP]11[/SUP] And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates, [SUP]12[/SUP] To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land. [SUP]13[/SUP] Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil? [SUP]14[/SUP] Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it? [SUP]15[/SUP] And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army: [SUP]16[/SUP] And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes. [SUP]17[/SUP] Thus saith the Lord GOD; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them? [SUP]18[/SUP] And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face. [SUP]19[/SUP] For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel; [SUP]20[/SUP] So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground. [SUP]21[/SUP] And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother. [SUP]22[/SUP] And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone. [SUP]23[/SUP] Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD.
Ezekiel 39:
[SUP]1[/SUP] Therefore, thou son of man, prophesy against Gog, and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: [SUP]2[/SUP] And I will turn thee back, and leave but the sixth part of thee, and will cause thee to come up from the north parts, and will bring thee upon the mountains of Israel: [SUP]3[/SUP] And I will smite thy bow out of thy left hand, and will cause thine arrows to fall out of thy right hand. [SUP]4[/SUP] Thou shalt fall upon the mountains of Israel, thou, and all thy bands, and the people that is with thee: I will give thee unto the ravenous birds of every sort, and to the beasts of the field to be devoured. [SUP]5[/SUP] Thou shalt fall upon the open field: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD. [SUP]6[/SUP] And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the LORD. [SUP]7[/SUP] So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel. [SUP]8[/SUP] Behold, it is come, and it is done, saith the Lord GOD; this is the day whereof I have spoken. [SUP]9[/SUP] And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years: [SUP]10[/SUP] So that they shall take no wood out of the field, neither cut down any out of the forests; for they shall burn the weapons with fire: and they shall spoil those that spoiled them, and rob those that robbed them, saith the Lord GOD. [SUP]11[/SUP] And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamon-gog. [SUP]12[/SUP] And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land. [SUP]13[/SUP] Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified, saith the Lord GOD. [SUP]14[/SUP] And they shall sever out men of continual employment, passing through the land to bury with the passengers those that remain upon the face of the earth, to cleanse it: after the end of seven months shall they search. [SUP]15[/SUP] And the passengers that pass through the land, when any seeth a man's bone, then shall he set up a sign by it, till the buriers have buried it in the valley of Hamon-gog. [SUP]16[/SUP] And also the name of the city shall be Hamonah. Thus shall they cleanse the land. [SUP]17[/SUP] And, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD; Speak unto every feathered fowl, and to every beast of the field, Assemble yourselves, and come; gather yourselves on every side to my sacrifice that I do sacrifice for you, even a great sacrifice upon the mountains of Israel, that ye may eat flesh, and drink blood. [SUP]18[/SUP] Ye shall eat the flesh of the mighty, and drink the blood of the princes of the earth, of rams, of lambs, and of goats, of bullocks, all of them fatlings of Bashan. [SUP]19[/SUP] And ye shall eat fat till ye be full, and drink blood till ye be drunken, of my sacrifice which I have sacrificed for you. [SUP]20[/SUP] Thus ye shall be filled at my table with horses and chariots, with mighty men, and with all men of war, saith the Lord GOD. [SUP]21[/SUP] And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them. [SUP]22[/SUP] So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward. [SUP]23[/SUP] And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword. [SUP]24[/SUP] According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them. [SUP]25[/SUP] Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name; [SUP]26[/SUP] After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made them afraid. [SUP]27[/SUP] When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations; [SUP]28[/SUP] Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there. [SUP]29[/SUP] Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.
Revelation 20:
[SUP]7[/SUP] And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, [SUP]8[/SUP] And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. [SUP]9[/SUP] And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
I believe that this would be the starting place...