What would you say to a person who truly believes something like this?

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Karlon

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I have a friend of mine from my childhood who is a completely different man. He tells me nowadays that he believes that God and Jesus Christ are extremely evil people who are just out to destroy everyone eventually. He doesn't believe that Jesus is good and literally hates him. He truly believes that Jesus has a very, very, dark heart. I am confused because I don't know where to start. Any advice?
if you are a Christian, how can you be confused? tell him right out: "if you die an atheist you are going to live in hell forever. but i will teach you how to live in heaven forever". then show him verses such as 1st John 5:10,13, Romans 8:16, John 14:26 & 16:13. tell him you care about him & try your best to witness Jesus on the spot.
 

SomeDisciple

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He tells me nowadays that he believes that God and Jesus Christ are extremely evil people who are just out to destroy everyone eventually.
If God wanted to destroy us... then he just would do that. His longsuffering toward mankind is pretty amazing... thousands of years of putting up with people's evil crap; when he could just instantly blink you into nothing. Not even mankind loves mankind as much as God.
He doesn't believe that Jesus is good and literally hates him. He truly believes that Jesus has a very, very, dark heart.
Like others have said; finding out why is a good start.
 

Pilgrimshope

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You cannot help him. Who knows how he got such ideas.
“And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, in meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; and that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭2:24-26‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 
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I have a friend of mine from my childhood who is a completely different man. He tells me nowadays that he believes that God and Jesus Christ are extremely evil people who are just out to destroy everyone eventually. He doesn't believe that Jesus is good and literally hates him. He truly believes that Jesus has a very, very, dark heart. I am confused because I don't know where to start. Any advice?
Sow seeds in good soil and pray for God to grow them.
 
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John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Ask your friend if he believes that God is going to destroy everyone because of this statement?

The meaning of this sentence is that if human do not obey God's words, our own development will be destroyed the world, possibly due to war, industry, and ecological destruction, rather than the destruction of human souls.

The way of God is the truth of life, We should have learned this truth in the process of governing our world, but due to various reasons, humans often overlook it.

For example, the discharge of nuclear wastewater into the ocean,abnormal crop growth due to global warming,ETC.
 

Magenta

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He doesn't believe that Jesus is good and literally hates him.
Odd that your friend would hate Jesus. Most non-believers see Jesus as a good guy at least. Jews are a different matter. Is your friend Jewish by any chance? Chief among those in Scripture who reacted to Jesus with hostility are the scribes and Pharisees. They were jealous of Him. He exposed that they were counterfeit, and they feared losing their power and authority.
 
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I have a friend of mine from my childhood who is a completely different man. He tells me nowadays that he believes that God and Jesus Christ are extremely evil people who are just out to destroy everyone eventually. He doesn't believe that Jesus is good and literally hates him. He truly believes that Jesus has a very, very, dark heart. I am confused because I don't know where to start. Any advice?
I'd argue this borders on blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Recount what Jesus said to the Pharisees when they accused Him of the same? As someone said, perhaps you can warn him once, and certainly you might pray for him (if this be God's will), but for those who attribute to God the works of the devil, I don't know there is anything more we can do other than warn them of the terrible consequences of such folly.
 

hornetguy

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My friend is dead serious. He claimed that Jesus was demon-possessed.
Jesus was accused of being demon possessed..... his answer....

22 Then a demon-oppressed man who was blind and mute was brought to him, and he healed him, so that the man spoke and saw. 23 And all the people were amazed, and said, “Can this be the Son of David?” 24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, “It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, that this man casts out demons.” 25 Knowing their thoughts, he said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself is laid waste, and no city or house divided against itself will stand. 26 And if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand? 27 And if I cast out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they will be your judges.
 

Pilgrimshope

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Sow seeds in good soil and pray for God to grow them.
“And he said, So is the kingdom of God, as if a man should cast seed into the ground; and should sleep, and rise night and day, and the seed should spring and grow up, he knoweth not how.

For the earth bringeth forth fruit of herself;

first the blade,

then the ear,

after that the full corn in the ear.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭4:26-28‬ ‭

“Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.

Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.

They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.

And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to completion.

But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭8:11-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬


Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.

…Behold, thou shalt call a nation that thou knowest not, and nations that knew not thee shall run unto thee because of the LORD thy God, and for the Holy One of Israel; for he hath glorified thee.

Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater: so shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭55:3-8, 10-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 

Fundaamental

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I have a friend of mine from my childhood who is a completely different man. He tells me nowadays that he believes that God and Jesus Christ are extremely evil people who are just out to destroy everyone eventually. He doesn't believe that Jesus is good and literally hates him. He truly believes that Jesus has a very, very, dark heart. I am confused because I don't know where to start. Any advice?
I don't see how you would be confused or why you would need advice to respond to something like this.

I think this friend of yours is a make believe person and theese are whispers in your ear from satan, only part of you is believing it and then satan told you how you could write theese insults down on this forum and get away it, thats what I think 🙂
 

Fundaamental

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read Romans 1:
28...God gave them over to a reprobate mind
that may be permanent if he carries in down this road, i suspect he will for a while, tho i do suspect this is an imaginary friend where speaking to.

where probably talking to some who is possessed. Possibly on drugs to 🙂
 
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I don't see how you would be confused or why you would need advice to respond to something like this.

I think this friend of yours is a make believe person and theese are whispers in your ear from satan, only part of you is believing it and then satan told you how you could write theese insults down on this forum and get away it, thats what I think 🙂
You are wrong. This is a real person.
 

Mosie

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if you are a Christian, how can you be confused? tell him right out: "if you die an atheist you are going to live in hell forever. but i will teach you how to live in heaven forever". then show him verses such as 1st John 5:10,13, Romans 8:16, John 14:26 & 16:13. tell him you care about him & try your best to witness Jesus on the spot.
Well, you can always DARE them to pray or Ask God to make Himself real to them. I have a friend who is a strong christian now...he did this and has an amazing story and testimony. Maybe this person got involved in drugs or something very severe to cause his eye to be blinded and his ears blocked to Jesus Christ, the Way, the Truth and the Life. John 14:6
 

HealthAndHappiness

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I have a friend of mine from my childhood who is a completely different man. He tells me nowadays that he believes that God and Jesus Christ are extremely evil people who are just out to destroy everyone eventually. He doesn't believe that Jesus is good and literally hates him. He truly believes that Jesus has a very, very, dark heart. I am confused because I don't know where to start. Any advice?
Daniel,

A funny/ strange thing like that just happened today to me too. It was just online though. Did some famous YouTube atheist just post a video on this subject last week?

If we were in person, I would have asked why they think that ? Then I would follow up with a gospel presentation after addressing their false beliefs with Bible answers. The gospel is the power of God unto salvation to everyone who believes . Romans 1:16
I think reasoning together is a good thing, but the Gospel has the power to save. When reasoning, I would focus on the sinless character of Christ and the compassion of the Father.
A clear powerful gospel presentation can convince better than mere reasoning alone..
Here's a sample that I've used a lot the past few months.

 

Blade

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Well my first thought is like others to listen the to wonder as sis said is he just trolling me trying to pull my chain. The end is prayer :) Hes just being lied to..just blind.